Thyroidic sleep

Insomniac

Have any of you here managed to reach this optimum state?

I have not.

Increasing my temperature with t3 wasn't helpful and it increased my stress.

Kvirion

Have any of you here managed to reach this optimum state?

It's reachable but it requires a lot of systemic and systematic work...
Proper nutrition, movement, and environment; adequate levels of things like Ca, Mg, Zn, ADEK, B-vitamins, lowering cortisol and adrenaline first, etc... Continuously Perceive. Think. Act...

BTW "Because the actions of T3 can be inhibited by many factors, including polyunsaturated fatty acids, reverse T3, and excess thyroxine, the absolute level of T3 can’t be used by itself for diagnosis."
https://www.functionalps.com/blog/2012/03/25/ray-peat-phd-on-thyroid-temperature-pulse-and-tsh/

the_black_jew

@Cezar4911 that’s a legit post. try sleeping in a park in a high trust neighborhood.

Jennifer

@Cezar4911 said in Thyroidic sleep:

Have any of you here managed to reach this optimum state?
Having enough bioenergy accumulated to feel absolutely 0 stress and sleep without any problems
If so how did you make this happen?

I’ve managed to reach this state, even while living through tragic events and in very stressful conditions. I achieved it via release work, diet and thyroid supplementation. Release work was to overcome trauma and the coping mechanisms I had developed since childhood that were harming me in the present, diet was an abundance of all three macros with fruit, honey and raw milk as my main carb sources, raw dairy, eggs and shellfish as my main protein sources, and coconut, raw dairy and eggs as my main fat sources, and thyroid was mainly standardized NDT (Armour, WP Thyroid and TyroMax). I felt exhausted for a few days after each release session as I let out a lot of energy—mostly anger/rage—and for roughly two weeks following an increase in my thyroid dose as the stress hormones I was running on were reduced. It took years of consistent effort, especially when it came to self-love and having my back no matter what, to reach that optimum state, but I noticed improvements almost immediately and continued to see improvements, even improvements in things I hadn’t realized needed improving. Having lived through trauma and dysfunction and learned to accept less, I grew accustomed to suffering and had no idea what it really meant to feel alive.

Milk Destroyer

Felt it for a couple days after properly discovering Peat and it went away pretty quickly. I had been restricting myself for a few years prior diet wise so when it clicked in my head that something like ice-cream or coca-cola aren't inherently bad I felt great relief. Not properly felt that way since. I was 19.

gg12

@Jennifer What is release work?

the_black_jew

@Milk-Destroyer I got it last week from eating 1/3 kg of fried (in palm oil) spring rolls imported from the great people's republic of China and chugging a 0.5% abv beer after

Milk Destroyer

@the_black_jew Awesome

Jennifer

@gg12 said in Thyroidic sleep:

@Jennifer What is release work?

Essentially, it’s releasing stored trauma through nondestructive outlets. I believe trauma and the feelings and emotions attached to it are energy that wreak havoc on the body so to heal what diet and thyroid alone hadn’t, I made a conscious effort every day to release the energy of trauma through physical ways. For example, I had a lot of suppressed rage from suffering molestation at a very young age so while punching my mattress, I would yell out all the things I wanted to say but hadn’t to the one who abused me, and do styles of dance that focused on the hip/vaginal region where I was assaulted to move the energy of trauma out. I also climbed the flights of stairs in my house to let out the rage I had from my spine collapsing and my Mum dying tragically, as a result of medical malpractice.

Ray Peat Fanboy

@Cezar4911

Yeah I get that state with Dr Peats Progest-E.

Rah1woot

I don't know about being able to sleep wherever I am, but when I'm in good health, one of the important things that happens is that I need less sleep overall, and do take less time to fall asleep.

This is amazing as even without getting into the "quality of life" stuff, it gives me something like an extra hour every day, which is huge over the course of a life.

I've recently been following a variation of anabology's "Honey Diet" (mostly, I don't eat any fat, protein, or starch until dinner) which has pushed the needle in this direction.