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    highseabasch
    last edited by Dec 6, 2024, 7:46 PM

    If you have any, please reply with interesting ideas regarding how information/intelligence emerges from connections between nodes.

    For example, there is much stored in the human brain, but there's no "module" where memories or personality is "kept" -- no binary 1 0 system. I suspect a personality or mind must emerge from some branching pathway or voltage between nodes -- not only in the brain, but also from electric motion in greater nervous system and heart. I also suspect that the structure of systems like these is too complex to map out (on paper, at least) and that our rudimentary set of brain anatomy rules is contradicted daily.

    If this is true, what could this mean for other forms of life and connection? Could the way that a neuron tells the next to fire through chemical signals be any different from one ant inducing a behavior change in the next through antennae signals? An ant hill may be more than just "intelligent"...could it have a sense of "self"? Is the Sun "alive"?

    What motions from the unity between things do we receive from each other? What about from the Sun? Select Peat articles talk about the Sun's neutrino ether and the possibility that this is what produces consciousness...how different would we act outside of our solar system? What about in another star system?

    Please, reply with any thoughts you have.

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      the_black_jew @highseabasch
      last edited by Dec 7, 2024, 5:35 AM

      @highseabasch link to neutrino ether star article?

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        bot-mod @the_black_jew
        last edited by Dec 7, 2024, 12:51 PM

        Gauge and respond to your own interest. If it's there, use a search engine and find it. Or better yet, read them all in order. When you get to that part, read the source. Search on the source and follow the road.

        @sneedful said in Bryan Johnson cooling himself for longevity? Waking temp of 93.4. Seems like a bad idea:

        the world unfolds for a person based on their expectations and beliefs

        @sneedful said in Bryan Johnson cooling himself for longevity? Waking temp of 93.4. Seems like a bad idea:

        I bet you someone with a high metabolic rate can also achieve the same things as him with a lowered one because they both have their world view

        @Creuset said in I will show you why I am an anarcho capitalist libertarian:

        takes a lot of energy to update your worldview

        @ThinPicking said in Bryan Johnson cooling himself for longevity? Waking temp of 93.4. Seems like a bad idea:

        what good is an energy surplus if the person running it doesn't set their 'world view' in motion

        Move it or lose it sneedy. No time like the present.

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          Kvirion @highseabasch
          last edited by Kvirion Dec 7, 2024, 5:29 PM Dec 7, 2024, 3:27 PM

          @highseabasch

          Canonical text https://raypeat.com/articles/articles/intelligence.shtml

          BTW Memory isn't stored only in a brain...
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_mind_thesis

          Some alternative hypotheses:

          • https://youtu.be/XWbxdREQ6xM
          • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchestrated_objective_reduction

          A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
          Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
          There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
          And drinking largely sobers us again.
          ~Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism

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            the_black_jew @bot-mod
            last edited by Dec 7, 2024, 10:16 PM

            @ThinPicking nigga just post the link if you have it. I got lots of other stuff to do that doesn't involve reading the entire ray peat catalog to find one quote

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              bot-mod @the_black_jew
              last edited by Dec 7, 2024, 10:25 PM

              @the_black_jew said in Energy and Intelligence:

              I got lots of other stuff to do

              @the_black_jew said in What do you guys think of Trump now that he won:

              I only care about what benefits will come.

              You're an amusing chap sneedy. Good luck out there.

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                the_black_jew @bot-mod
                last edited by Dec 7, 2024, 10:26 PM

                @ThinPicking meds4a2ebc5c-00b8-4822-936d-0ea509a13db6-image.png

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                  bot-mod @the_black_jew
                  last edited by Dec 7, 2024, 10:29 PM

                  @the_black_jew said in Depopulation agenda what is the long term goal?:

                  thx

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                    the_black_jew @bot-mod
                    last edited by Dec 7, 2024, 10:42 PM

                    @ThinPicking a smart stupid person is better than a stupid smart person

                    "how did you test this hypothesis?" you may ask?

                    by
                    listening/reading discussions between "smart" people

                    who are actually stupid

                    and comparing them to comments from stupid people

                    who are actually smart

                    also most smart people who are actually stupid tend to have a higher percentage of evil / malevolent types

                    because they rationalize their stupid smartness in all sorts of megalomanical ways

                    whereas a smart stupid person realizes that they're probably just hungry and that's why they're having annoying thoughts

                    and they should probably just eat some ice cream instead of plotting some dastardly plot like a true scoundrel will

                    ive been both so i know by experience

                    being a smart stupid person is the way

                    being a stupid smart person is cringe and gay

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                      bot-mod @the_black_jew
                      last edited by bot-mod Dec 7, 2024, 10:47 PM Dec 7, 2024, 10:46 PM

                      @the_black_jew said in Energy and Intelligence:

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                        Mossy @highseabasch
                        last edited by Mossy Dec 9, 2024, 9:24 AM Dec 9, 2024, 9:19 AM

                        @highseabasch
                        Being that this is a Ray Peat inspired forum, I can provide a loose and general idea that William Blake was big on energy, and he was considered quite intelligent, to say the least: a genius by many.

                        So while I can't speak to any specific, technical workings within our own body's system, or how our body might work in interaction with other bodies, the idea of energy and intelligence seems very rooted in Blake: both in his work and himself. In my very light and cursory reading about him, it seems he was a man of intense energy and intelligence, and that energy was propelling him personally, a topic within his work, and the effect portrayed from his artistic method and style. He spoke of energy, but at levels I can't wrap my head around. For instance, in his The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, he speaks on energy; he speaks of the "evil" of energy, but this seems to be sarcasm and mockery, where he's criticizing status quo religion, and how it saps the energy of man, calling that energy "evil". I welcome greater minds to chime in and properly interpret this.

                        As for Blake himself, beyond his using the idea of energy in his work, he was an energetic person. In a biography on him, it's noted that "...when his tense nerves and superabundant physical energy drove Blake forth to stretch his limbs and cool his brain in long country walks of thirty, and occasionally forty miles at a stretch...".  (And this would've been in the shoes of the late 18th and early 19th century — not in the comfort of New Balance.)

                        It's late and I'm tired, but even apart from those things I would struggle to properly relay the ideas of Blake and Blake himself, but I think I have the general ideas correct and maybe it's enough to interest you in him, being consistent with your topic.  If anything, reading your title of energy and intelligence made me think of Blake first and foremost.

                        "To desire action is to desire limitation" — G. K. Chesterton
                        "The true step of health and improvement is slow." — Novalis

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                          highseabasch @Mossy
                          last edited by Dec 16, 2024, 9:15 PM

                          @Mossy Thank you! I will look more into William Blake. Tyger! Tyger!

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