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    • alpine.raspberryA
      alpine.raspberry @peaty runescape
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      @peaty-runescape Thanks for your comment.
      Just to specify, what does a "local market" in your country constitute?

      I will definitely try the direct approach. How do you / others in this thread prepare the raw milk?

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        djledda
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        If you live in southern Bavaria, I wouldn't bother with raw milk. Demeter Bergbauernmilch (Berchtesgadener Land) is sold in homogenised in Pfand glass bottles and is the best milk I've ever had. A lot of farms in southern Bavaria also have Milchautomaten.

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          djledda @djledda
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            djledda @djledda
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            Actually nevermind, forgot about Vorzugsmilch! Have you heard of it before? That's raw milk but subject to strict hygiene standards. This is the only brand I know of and its from the Allgäu region. It's available in many organic supermarkets.

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            • alpine.raspberryA
              alpine.raspberry @djledda
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              @djledda
              I only knew about Vorzugsbutter, somehow it didn't click to me that there has to be a Vorzugsmilch as well.
              Already found a farm vendor in my city that sells both Vorzugsmilch and raw milk - thank you! Great find.

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              • erlaE
                erla @alpine.raspberry
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                @alpine-raspberry i get mine from a cool farm that just loads up a van w fresh stuff and goes door to door delivering what u ordered i usually get 5L glass bottle n transfer it in 1L glass bottles before drinking

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                  djledda @alpine.raspberry
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                  @alpine-raspberry Glad to help! It's delicious, so enjoy.

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                  • goldaG
                    golda
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                    The food assembly is a collective that collects local farmers productions to consumers, 1x/week.

                    Otherwise, some organic supermarkets might have it but it is always more expensive and less reliable (sometimes out of stock, prices fluctuate a bit etc). The milk also sours quicker than from the food assembly supply.

                    https://laruchequiditoui.fr/en/assemblies#5/47.040/3.779
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                    • oliveoilO
                      oliveoil
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                      I wonder the same thing. I've never seen raw milk sold anywhere in Spain. I think it's illegal to sell raw milk here.
                      They do sell "fresh" milk in supermarkets, which is pasteurized at 74 °C for 15 seconds, while UHT milk is pasteurized at 130 °C for 5 seconds.

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                      • CO3C
                        CO3 @oliveoil
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                        @oliveoil Yeah it's illegal here! In other European countries it's not, but in Spain it barely exists. So we have the option between UHT and regular pasteurized milk (the one in the fridge), both are homogenized.

                        The best commercial milk I've had wasn't even raw milk (although this often tastes a lot better), but it was Dutch milk in a large chain supermarket. It had the name of the cow on it, and looking at the cream top it was not homogenized. Twitter user Click talked about how homogenization is more of a problem with cow's milk than the pasteurization.

                        Master Broth Recipe: https://twitter.com/thesquattingman/status/1737526599023526043 / https://recipeats.org/master-broth/

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                        • oliveoilO
                          oliveoil @CO3
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                          @CO3 I didn't know about non-homogenized milk. I'll read into it. Thanks!

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                          • CO3C
                            CO3 @oliveoil
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                            @oliveoil Nevertheless, UHT homogenized cow's milk is better than not having milk. Especially when it's skim, since the fats are more affected by both processes.

                            Master Broth Recipe: https://twitter.com/thesquattingman/status/1737526599023526043 / https://recipeats.org/master-broth/

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                            • oliveoilO
                              oliveoil @CO3
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                              @CO3 Which would you rather drink? Whole or skim "fresh" milk? (pasteurized at a lower temperature).

                              I've just recently started to drink milk again after 10 years of not doing so. Now I'm drinking whole "fresh" milk, and it feels better compared to what I used to drink, but it still doesn't feel "fully right". It doesn't have a lot of flavor, and from what I've read, milk is supposed to be delicious.

                              I never liked UHT milk. It always made me feel kind of nauseous and gave me a bad gut feeling (no pun intended).

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                                • ?
                                  A Former User
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                                  In Germany: Just use the keyword "milchtankstelle" in google, you should find one

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                                  • Mr. XM
                                    Mr. X @A Former User
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                                    I like wohlfühlmilch a2 milch here in germany

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