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    Corngold @LucH
    last edited by Jan 1, 2025, 2:40 PM

    @LucH
    Yeah my stomach and chest are tight after accidentally ingesting a few small pieces. Also feeling energized though.

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      LucH @Corngold
      last edited by Jan 1, 2025, 3:22 PM

      @Corngold said in Cinnamon:

      Also feeling energized though.

      adrenalin impulse. Like other serotoninergic substances. Can be accustomed if ...

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        Corngold @LucH
        last edited by Jan 1, 2025, 6:26 PM

        @LucH
        Interesting. I usually only add a dash to a coffee or sweet and not daily. This was surprising.

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          wrl @LucH
          last edited by wrl Jan 1, 2025, 9:07 PM Jan 1, 2025, 9:05 PM

          @LucH
          The active called cinnamaldehyde is adrenergic and activates TRPA1 a heat "receptor". Cinnamaldehyde is similar in shape to amphetamine and phenethylamine, two CNS stimulants.

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            Corngold @wrl
            last edited by Jan 1, 2025, 9:17 PM

            @wrl now we're getting somewhere. I think I'm waiting for the irritation to subside. Going to be more careful lmao.

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              LucH @wrl
              last edited by Jan 1, 2025, 9:47 PM

              @wrl said in Cinnamon:

              The active called cinnamaldehyde is adrenergic and activates TRPA1 a heat "receptor". Cinnamaldehyde is similar in shape to amphetamine and phenethylamine, two CNS stimulants.

              Thanks for detailed explanation. πŸ‘

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                wrl @Corngold
                last edited by Jan 2, 2025, 12:20 AM

                @Corngold you can probably guess menthol has the opposite effect!

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                  Corngold @wrl
                  last edited by Jan 2, 2025, 1:50 AM

                  @wrl

                  Yeah, I guess menthol is cooling but I thought it was also pro-serotonin and estrogen?

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                    wrl @Corngold
                    last edited by Jan 2, 2025, 12:11 PM

                    @Corngold see https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/use-avoidance-of-herbs-essential-oils-plant-extracts.10065/#post-496290

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                      Corngold @wrl
                      last edited by Jan 2, 2025, 4:16 PM

                      @wrl funny enough Nicole had the right idea in that thread...I agree with it, I'm done with obsessing about foods but it's still interesting to think about.

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                        DavidPS
                        last edited by Jan 3, 2025, 5:57 PM

                        The article from the Towsend Letter found different responses when the cinnamon was taken in capsules or in water.

                        Cinnamon: Postprandial Hyperglycemia Suppression

                        β€œMedical science has made such tremendous progress that there is hardly a healthy human left.”
                        Aldous Huxley πŸ‘€
                        β˜‚οΈ

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                          Corngold @DavidPS
                          last edited by Jan 5, 2025, 4:34 AM

                          @DavidPS

                          Interesting. I think I'm going to be pretty careful with it. I've never noticed anything from regular ground cinnamon on food, maybe it's degraded or low quality. I Also don't trust the bark but in cider or a liquid it's never bothered me.

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                            LucH @Corngold
                            last edited by Jan 5, 2025, 7:18 AM

                            @Corngold said in Cinnamon:

                            maybe it's degraded or low quality.

                            Some "cheap" sticks could already have been used. A $2 box of sticks should arouse suspicion. Poor level antioxidant ...
                            And mind the kind if it smells too little (Chinese one is cassia type))
                            True cinnamon is more tan-brown in color, while cassia has a reddish-brown hue. And if you open the package and find a smell that's not exactly pungent, that's a good thing. True cinnamon is delicate and sweet, creating a subtle flavor while not overpowering the rest of your ingredients.
                            To choose the right kind (Ceylan)
                            True cinnamon is more tan-brown in color, while cassia has a reddish-brown hue. And if you open the package and find a smell that's not exactly pungent, that's a good thing. True cinnamon is delicate and sweet, creating a subtle flavor while not overpowering the rest of your ingredients.
                            https://www.eatingwell.com/article/7878464/how-to-tell-if-cinnamon-is-fake/

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                              Mossy @LucH
                              last edited by Mossy Jan 5, 2025, 7:42 AM Jan 5, 2025, 7:41 AM

                              @LucH said in Cinnamon:

                              Ceylan cannelle

                              Do you have any thoughts on the supposed high contaminant content of Ceylon cinnamon? I've referenced this link before, and I'm not so short-sighted as to assume it's 100% correct, and that there's not more variables to be considered, but I'm also open to the thought that contaminants are rampant in our highly industrialized society. According to this, there is not one brand of Ceylon cinnamon that passes muster, only Cassia:
                              https://www.mamavation.com/food/cinnamon-lead-cadmium-glyphosate.html

                              "To desire action is to desire limitation" β€” G. K. Chesterton
                              "The true step of health and improvement is slow." β€” Novalis

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                                LucH @Mossy
                                last edited by Jan 5, 2025, 8:47 AM

                                @Mossy said in Cinnamon:

                                Do you have any thoughts on the supposed high contaminant content of Ceylon cinnamon?

                                Cinnamon contaminated
                                When the ground is polluted by Β« fog Β» (coming from industrial arrays) you find heavy metals like lead / cadmium (industrial arrays + cars). Or arsenic in some rice if ...
                                No food should contain more than 10 ppm HM for the whole stuff, 5 ppm per HM, and no more than 1 ppm for mercury. When the body is reached by mercury, you can’t cure from an immune pathology.
                                Save sources of cannelle sticks / powders
                                CR (ConsumerReports.org) did find several cinnamon products that are good options for consumers. The six posing the lowest risk in our tests are 365 Whole Foods Market Ground Cinnamon, 365 Whole Foods Market Organic Ground Cinnamon, Loisa Organic Cinnamon, Morton & Bassett San Francisco Organic Ground Cinnamon, Sadaf Cinnamon Powder, and Sadaf Seven Spice blend.
                                https://www.consumerreports.org/health/food-contaminants/high-lead-levels-in-cinnamon-powders-and-spice-mixtures-a4542246475/
                                Brands not to use on the link.

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                                  Mossy @LucH
                                  last edited by Jan 6, 2025, 8:57 AM

                                  @LucH
                                  Thank you for the list. I see there is only a single Ceylon option, and it is in the "Okay" category. I think Ceylon tastes better than Cassia, but for now I'm going with the 365 Whole Foods Cassia, due to lower lead and contaminants.

                                  "To desire action is to desire limitation" β€” G. K. Chesterton
                                  "The true step of health and improvement is slow." β€” Novalis

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                                    LucH
                                    last edited by LucH Jan 6, 2025, 9:10 AM Jan 6, 2025, 9:09 AM

                                    useful info: Increase in senile diseases
                                    Some suppose that the increase in the rate of senile dementia diseases (Alzheimer's for example) is due to the depletion of soils in trace elements: Plants contain significantly less magnesium than 60 years ago. 80% of people are deficient in Mg and Zn.
                                    Indeed, how can we explain other than that our grandparents, who often cooked in aluminum pots, were not more often affected by senility!?
                                    Farmers force plants with fertilizers, when they should first balance the composition of their soil which will nourish the plants, a logic of farmers of yesteryear...

                                    To avoid problems, we need to occupy the place with healthy minerals needed for our enzymes:
                                    Healthy Minerals – Mineral Antagonist
                                    Calcium - Lead
                                    Zinc - Cadmium
                                    Sulfur/molybdenum - Copper
                                    Selenium – Mercury – arsenic
                                    Magnesium – aluminum (=> Calcium, Magnesium and vitamin B6)

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                                      wrl
                                      last edited by wrl Jan 17, 2025, 11:48 PM Jan 17, 2025, 11:09 PM

                                      Pro progesterone effects...

                                      These data suggest that cinnamaldehyde selectively induced progesterone production and inhibited production of testosterone and dehydroepiandrosterone in human adrenal cells.
                                      https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0024320510001803

                                      Also, to bypass any possible heavy metal contaminants maybe the use of cinnamon essential oil could work. Eg, 1 drop in food/drink etc.

                                      Cinnamaldehyde is an aldehyde found in cinnamon bark in high concentrations. It's used as a flavor and medicine. Cinnamon bark is usually used medicinally in doses of 1-6 grams orally. 6 grams of cinnamon can contain from to 42 to 189 mg cinnamaldehyde. Cinnamon contains approximately 1 to 3.5 percent essential oil. The essential oil is approximately 70 to 90 percent cinnamaldehyde.

                                      β€” http://herbpedia.wikidot.com/cinnamaldehyde

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