Depopulation agenda what is the long term goal?
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@ThinPicking said in Depopulation agenda what is the long term goal?:
I'm neither a theologian nor Jewish but I don't think that's accurate.
Me neither, but good luck finding a straight answer. It's not like Hebrew is intended to be read by non-Jews, or that Judaism is a religion for all races, or that their beliefs are unified at all, or discussed or disseminated among the masses, outside of the limited package of select books and ideas from the Old Testament within Catholicism and to a lesser extent Protestant sects.
Again, just my view but the Renaissance was also about Hebraism. Read Michael Hoffman for more in this area.https://www.sefaria.org/topics/olam-haba?tab=notable-sources
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@Corngold said in Depopulation agenda what is the long term goal?:
good luck finding a straight answer
I found one from a reliable source on the internet but obviously that doesn't count. I will try to get a real one from a real one at random the next time I'm in north london. While sufficiently energised to mind my intention and manner in asking. And prepared to make light of dismissal.
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@ThinPicking good luck. Just my opinion, but I haven't found anything similar to Catholic ideas of afterlife in the religion of Judaism. It seems most ideas are going back to kabbalah and basically occultism/hermeticism not the sort of Manichean Christian ideas.
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@gg12
To borrow from various perspectives I've heard on this, those involved with these progressive agendas fall into camps of varying degrees of progressivism; but, the most devious perspective is, that which is satanic (as others have stated) which seeks destruction for destruction's sake. It could be akin to the bored and spoiled child that breaks his own toys, or worse yet, those of another child's, simply to create the drama and get the reaction, and to be the author of anything, even if it is just destruction. Underlining that destruction is jealousy and envy, which are arguably rooted in all great evils. -
there is no winning depopulation agenda . in fact one level of “elites” (bad definition tbh) is concerned with too little population growth. just because a sect of “powerful” people “in control” of certain interests thinks this doesnt mean they are winning or likely to win. even their most potent weapon which by all reasonable accounts had a negative impact couldnt even achieve anything other than a temporary negative effect. the idea of a powerful depopulation agenda is out of developed countries experiencing slowing and negative population growth because people have less kids when they get educated and financially secure, which ironically clashes with the idea that people have less kids just because of less economic opportunity
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@Mossy it’s funny because you’re implying, i think, that liberalism seeks to depopulate when the evidence is the nationalists in the 20th century depopulated the most through wars. outcome usually trumps intention. an “evil globalist” arsehole who brings le immigrant who end up innovating and raising qualiy of life long term for the most people is probably better than a “good” and based hitlerman who triggers the death of millions via their based and redpilled intent of glorious victory for le master race. 90% of talking heads including the based and redpilled alternative groups are dishonest liars even when they dont realize they are lying. theres like 8 people on the planet who legitimately try to depopulate with realistic means (which are so far from success i shouldnt even call them realistic) and the best thing for them is to be held upside down in a toilet stall so their heads are dunked in the water, and then to flush the toilet. this is known as a swirlie.
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@the_black_jew Gonna have to disagree with this one but you do you
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@the_black_jew said in Depopulation agenda what is the long term goal?:
the idea of a powerful depopulation agenda is out of developed countries experiencing slowing and negative population growth because people have less kids when they get educated and financially secure, which ironically clashes with the idea that people have less kids just because of less economic opportunity
True, but legal euthanasia and push for abortion are very much targeting host populations of Europe and US (white caucasian people). I don't think it's about depopulation but about replacement. Abortion took over 60 million lives in America since 1973. Immigration laws had been relaxed years prior. There's a certain tribe of people that were known to offer the procedures as doctors, and who also run the lobby and legislation. Actually in a country like Israel, abortion is frowned upon and the average birth rate is higher than all of the west
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@the_black_jew said in Depopulation agenda what is the long term goal?:
nationalists in the 20th century depopulated the most through wars.
Again, reading the outlines of what these wars were about, maybe some truth to official narratives, but finance has driven most wars and certain people run the finance industry. Those hand-rubbing Irish!
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@the_black_jew said in Depopulation agenda what is the long term goal?:
90% of talking heads including the based and redpilled alternative groups are dishonest liars even when they dont realize they are lying.
You're right here, and it goes for all sides on anything policy related. All they need is consent and trust; they never promise accountability. Funny that Ray Peat was criticizing academia's infatuation with Chomsky. If CIA was funding him, does that make him a Jewish Nazi? Again, the labels fail. Soros is a Jewish Nazi; Netanyahu is a Jewish Nazi. Many Nazis were Jews; Hitler supposedly was part Jewish. The Havaara Agreement helped establish Israel - Nazi Germany did this. Germany sent Lenin back to Russia. Who's really in control? The "neo-fascists" or the "communists"? It's just lies on all sides, and certain false dialectics go to some countries and other ones go to other countries, as they see fit for their financial purposes.
Disraeli decades earlier helped occupy the middle east and put pressure on Palestine via the crumbling Ottoman Empire. If it isn't clear enough, politicians are basically the waiters and bus-boys of the global financial elite. -
@Corngold black americans utilize abortion disporportionaley more than whites bro
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@the_black_jew said in Depopulation agenda what is the long term goal?:
@Mossy it’s funny because you’re implying, i think, that liberalism seeks to depopulate when the evidence is the nationalists in the 20th century depopulated the most through wars. outcome usually trumps intention. an “evil globalist” arsehole who brings le immigrant who end up innovating and raising qualiy of life long term for the most people is probably better than a “good” and based hitlerman who triggers the death of millions via their based and redpilled intent of glorious victory for le master race. 90% of talking heads including the based and redpilled alternative groups are dishonest liars even when they dont realize they are lying. theres like 8 people on the planet who legitimately try to depopulate with realistic means (which are so far from success i shouldnt even call them realistic) and the best thing for them is to be held upside down in a toilet stall so their heads are dunked in the water, and then to flush the toilet. this is known as a swirlie.
It wasn't my intent to imply anything other than, that at the root of the depopulation agenda is a greater evil, which is not necessarily knowingly held to by the lesser, varying degrees of faithful followers below the élite, which consists of no agenda for good whatsoever, other than destruction for destruction's sake. That is the furthest and most demented point, but I do feel it is at the core and lowest point of all evil. So, it is arguably possible, as you suggest, that any of the groups or perspectives you mention may fall under this as well — though, I haven't thought too much about it. Maybe there comes a point where this destruction theory can only go so far to the red-pill or conservative side. For instance, I don't think true conservatives are war-mongers, which would not fit your war-hungry, nationalists label.
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@Corngold i suggest you only think its about replacement because immigrants now can achieve economic prosperity and even political power in the first generation , as landed immigrants. that idea was unheard of before. great replacement theory is a cope for realizing that foreigners somehow hyper adapt to liberalized economies and in some cases out compete. the most anti immigrant regions in canada are also the ones who recieve the most transfer payments from the more liberal western provinces who make all the money. they take billions of dollars from multicultural areas in equalization payments because they cant figure out how to sustain themselves otherwise. its a giga cope of the highest order. if people who have different skin color than you scare you or their food and cultural habits arent to your liking you could always move to hungary, although i read their natural gas just got shut off. theres probably some white enclaves in usa left. go be with your people if foreigners engaging in the society you live in bothers you. yeah yeah but the rape gangs or something. statistically (the nationalists are fond of statistics) the amount of rapings is probably pretty fairly distributed. theres a catholic church designated as a heritage site in eastern canada for sale right now for an obscenely low price because the (white) guys who ran the orphanage couldnt help themselves to not diddle the little boys they were supposed to be taking care of and now the church needs to get the money for the settlements. we can trade statistics all day if you want.
though, they say it would be wine and roses if england were for englishmen again
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@the_black_jew
They are getting housed and paid; it keeps labor cheap for billionaires; religious organizations are helping them; both parties lie. It's not about hating foreigners, it's that the rulers stand to gain from destroying morality, ethnicity and history. -
@Corngold so what ? go get housing and payment if you want it. labor needs to be inexpensive relative to what the boomers had. the idea that people can continue to buy a mcmansion and a couple vehicles on a single earner income is not happening and sooner u accept it the sooner u can focus on upskilling to get paid
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@the_black_jew
Only works if you're a rapist from Syria apparently. I'll keep trying though. -
@Corngold that’s BS . liberal western countries have comprehensive welfare programs. in canada they give out a grocery store voucher just for coming to fill in the application
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@Corngold apparently the max payment a refugee family can get all in is $25,000 for a year. is $25k alot of money to you, paid out in installments over the course of the year? do you need some ideas on how to earn? theres so much free money floating around in fiat economies especially after the giga printing since 2021. like come on nigga, get ur money up and stop crying . go get a business loan or line of credit and spin up your business
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@the_black_jew ok So that applies to Israel too. Let’s be sure to push a ton of immigrants there.
Your gaslighting is so easy to see through. You just try to sound smart but your arguments fall apart so quickly when people don’t immediately believe you and you beat around the bush when answering questions. We are talking about local populations being replaced and you talk about how immigrants are good for the economy or something which is not what this discussion was about lol.
