Lobotomize-me athletic logs
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how would you suggest I repair this serotonergic state I'm drowning in?
I did use ashwaganda religiously in the past, didnt have any noticable effect on me(other than it being my first supplement🫥)
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@lobotomize-me It's hard for me to say since you have lots going on and seem to take things pretty intensely in whatever direction you choose, and I almost worry you'll overreact to whatever I say. I'm not nearly as intensely into the supplementation thing.
But yeah. Maybe get rid of ashwaganda. I'm not sure if that's something that has to be tapered in any way to avoid a discontinuation syndrome especially since you've been on it for a while.
Any kind of supplement which is dried plant matter (like the turmeric, which often contains lead anyways) I tend to be highly skeptical of. Some researcher finds that it increases some hormone for some length of time (on a toxic adaptation basis?) and people end up spilling tons of cash over it as a result. For instance a lot of the so-called "testosterone increasing" plants end up damaging the testicle function in the long run.
Your meticulous logging of food intake makes me think that you might not be eating to hunger or desire, but instead eating to a schedule. As far as I see it, over time that is basically guaranteed to cause imbalance, because your mental model of what you need is often deficient relative to the organ that produces that flawed mental model, and its real mechanism of desire. That, and your activity varies from day-to-day.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't see mention of thyroid status/temperature/pulse anywhere. This is very easy to check and can be a starting ground for other stuff. If your waking temperature is not 98.6F (or a bit higher) you are probably somewhat hypothyroid. For instance, I would not recommend eating beef liver for people with low thyroid. But if you were higher thyroid I might advise you to try some of that. Peat talks about how low thyroid makes you more vulnerable to vitamin A toxicity.
I also don't see much calcium in the intake. Maybe add some skim milk?
Very briefly:
- Actually measure temperature to help rule out thyroid-type problems. Don't skip it.
- Re-evaluate which supplements in your intake are mostly fluff. Make a plan for getting off of them if any kind of tapering is advisable. My personal orientation is to take in simple stuff and let the body machinery do most of the work of producing the necessary downstream products in the proper quantities that it detects as needed. But I'm Just Some Guy.
- Listen to yourself more than online advice. There's probably no magic chemical you can buy that will instantly make you great at everything soccer related you want. But you can adopt mindsets that create systems that produce that outcome. Spamming all of the supplements you read about is apparently not fruitful anyways.
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Your kidneys probably aren’t thrilled with all those supplements.
You can get everything you need from raw milk, meat, fruit, potatoes, etc.
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@Rah1woot Hey thank you for the reply the supplement list I mentioned includes only supplements I currently have in supply(I no longer use ashwagandha, but as I previously mentioned, I used it religiously in the past),
the ones I listed in my diet are the ones I take daily.
But as you recommended, I've temporarily stopped taking most supplements to observe their effects, and I'll reintroduce the ones I find helpful. You're also right about the need to measure those indicators.
The only issue is that I can accurately measure heart rate but not temperature, as my thermometer is terribly inconsistent(still trying to find one which is consistent).
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@Mallard6146 said in Lobotomize-me athletic logs:
Your kidneys probably aren’t thrilled with all those supplements.
Question - if you know about kidney health, what are the best things?
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Training 25.3:
It went decently/above average, still made some stupid mistakes, but this is the first time I entered the flow state in a long while. I believe it was due to the dopamine inhibiting effects of high acetylcholine, which were caused by the daily Citicoline/cdp-choline supplementation, which I stopped on 22.3
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Just realized today that my diet may have caused me to be significantly B1 deficient(coffee, high carbs, etc), which could have caused this mess. I am going to start supplementing with b1 to see if it changes anything
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Jesus. You take way waaaay too many supplements man.
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@Kilgore As I mentioned earlier, the supplements in storarge/I have are not the ones I take. Also, I’ve cut down on all supplements, as noted in my previous post. I’ll be retesting them over the coming weeks to see if they’re actually helpful
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K Kilgore moved this topic from Bioenergetics Discussion
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I think Peat himself said ashwaganda was serotonergic, (I know you said you aren’t currently taking it). The porn and masturbation are for sure causing issues, but the issue isnt so much that you’re engaging in that, (without end-point gratification mind you-which is a whole separate issue potentially) but rather porn and masturbation are a symptom, (again, like the meticulous logging of food and supplements) of what seems, (to me) sky high serotonin. You are trying to control everything in your life, (down to denying yourself ejaculation because of a potential negative outcome).
This is not what you want to hear, but if you’re not having fun playing soccer you should quit. It sounds like your life is totally devoid of joy. I don’t say this lightly, I say it as someone who had a similar experience playing competitive sports. I now wish I never played sports, and believe strongly that my time spent playing them caused most of the health issues I have today, (but more so, my playing sports in the first place was a symptom itself of my lack of energetic living). I hope you find your happiness, whatever that is for you. I have, and it took me til I was about 40. I hope you don’t have to wait so long. Be well.
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@evan-hinkle Hello thank you for the detailed reply. I do agree with your point about me trying to control things. For me, that focus feels necessary for a fulfilling life
especially regarding peating and health, where it's about limiting the harmful elements (PUFAs, heavy metals, microplastics, EMFs, etc) and embracing the good elements, all while keeping future goals in mind.That said, I genuinely enjoy soccer a lot. Of course, just like with any game, losing or playing badly isn't enjoyable, but that's part of the experience
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You're too deep into your own head
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@lobotomize-me said in Lobotomize-me athletic logs:
https://lowtoxinforum.com/attachments/screen-shot-2018-01-04-at-1-25-54-pm-png.7804/
https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/icing-cooling-my-testicles-has-been-amazing.21730/The true extent of the RPF legacy would probably be horrifying.
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@Mallard6146 said in Lobotomize-me athletic logs:
Your kidneys probably aren’t thrilled with all those supplements.
Nor your gut.
@lobotomize-me said in Lobotomize-me athletic logs:
However, during the warm-up, I suddenly lost all confidence and became quiet and emotionless.
That's your gut. Peripheral vasodilation, intestinal hypertonicity and hypomotility. Probably.
Cut them all out. You're 19.
