how do you justify meat eating?
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@Aniciete I predict you will respond with a simple line like "get help" or something instead of addressing the logical inconsistencies in your posts here
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This needs to go on for days and best the JG - Redsun exchange. Who remembers this. It was epic. Weird and epic.
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@random
Absolute reddit tier comment.
Humans have soul/conciousness, we have reasoning and morals. Animals do not. You can become a more moral and good person over time, that can change.
What you cannot change is your biology. Humans have to eat meat and organs to survive and be optimally healthy. That's a fact. We are not herbivores.
I, as a higher being than the animals, have a moral imperative to survive and be the strongest version of myself, for not just me but my family. I am going to be optimally healthy and strong. Therefore I am going to eat animals. It's the moral and right thing to do.
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@eduardo-crispino
Veganism makes people mentally ill. Case in point:
lol you can't even eat a fruit without getting ill and you are making statements like you are
I just looked up your post history and you literally say you can't eat fruit lmaoooooooooo LOLOLOLOL
WHY ARE YOU TELLING ANYONE ANYTHING ABOUT HEALTH LMAOOOO
oh wait oh wait there's more, there's more:
YOU LITERALLY CANT EVEN DIGEST BEEF OR LAMB EITHER
YOUR DIET IS MINERAL WATER AND YAK MEAT
IF YOUR HEALTH IS SO FUCKED UP LIKE THAT WHY ARE YOU MAKING JUDGEMENTAL STATEMENTS ON MENTAL ILLNESS IN MODERN SOCIETY
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IM LITERALLY LAUGHING
YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS ILL AND PROJECTING CALLING ME BRAINWASHED FOR QUESTIONING IF MEAT IS OPTIMAL
AHHAHAHAHAHHAH
This thread
I swear
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@Hearthfire animal DO have a soul. you bring up the reply about lions as a comparison and then deny the association between cub killing by lion when other user posts the contradiction. you have no basic fundamental logic or reasoning, you are just YAPPING to YAP.
also im not a vegan lol ive been eating meat my whole life. I even stated that in my consideration to not eat most meats I would still eat shellfish. do you think that is vegan?
you've replied 4 times now to a topic you stated you wouldn't reply to
your posts replying to me are this malding insecure energy. remember when you got mad and verbally attacked me because I called you "sir" when I didn't know gorillas eat bamboo? Do you yell at kids when they don't know something?
what is your height, I'm just wondering. are you like 5 foot 6? many manlets are perpetually angry like this. please notify so I can take this as a further data point.
IF you are actually "short" and balding this does not mean you have to be rude. many short men are good natured and their shortness and baldness has no major negative implication or perception. but to be short and bald AND rude is just BAD.
Note we only know that you suffer from hair losses. So I haven't confirmed your height, it would be helpful to know. So this is only a partial straw man I am constructing of you.
it doesn't even matter if you reply with truth or not because your series of posts in this thread PROVE you don't care about an honest real conversation. anyone who brings up a subject of comparison and then in the next reply DENIES the further comparison of subjects (the lion) is being dishonest, engaging in pilpul, lying. You are YAPPING just to YAP.
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@Hearthfire said in how do you justify meat eating?:
Humans have soul/conciousness, we have reasoning and morals. Animals do not. You can become a more moral and good person over time, that can change.
I don't know what the point of this thread is, but animals do have consciousness and/or a soul, I think. I wouldn't say they have higher reasoning, but animals seem to exercise judgment. That may just be an accelerated survival instinct or deterministic "fluke."
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@Corngold how tf can someone look at an elephant and say it doesn't have a soul
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@eduardo-crispino agree.
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@Hearthfire said in how do you justify meat eating?:
@random
Absolute reddit tier comment.
Humans have soul/conciousness, we have reasoning and morals. Animals do not. You can become a more moral and good person over time, that can change.
What you cannot change is your biology. Humans have to eat meat and organs to survive and be optimally healthy. That's a fact. We are not herbivores.
I, as a higher being than the animals, have a moral imperative to survive and be the strongest version of myself, for not just me but my family. I am going to be optimally healthy and strong. Therefore I am going to eat animals. It's the moral and right thing to do.
You mentionned lion following his instinct as an exemple of based behavior for us human to follow, i mentionned some other lion instincts such as killing lion cubs from females they want to reproduce with, to demonstrate that having an instinct does not imply that we should act it in all cases. You have trash reasoning, aint m'y answer that was reddit tier, you just didnt get how weak was your instinct argument. no we dont have to eat organs to be optimally healthy and survive, your claim isnt based on experience, not even your own, based purely on Propaganda and marketing driven narratives, most beef liver smell bad, taste bad, and make you feel bad/or stoic at first, these days there is a narrative that stoïcism is good or manly, so it Can cause confusion. Lot of people can worsen their health eating organs. How do you know we cant change our biology, how do you know we need meat to survive and bé optimally healthy?
Show your physiognomy, show how higher it is to other animals
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@Hearthfire you can not argue with vegans, since it's a religious belief with no base in reality whatsoever. And depending on how long they've been on the diet, the brain damage is already so severe that no argument, proof or reasoning will get to them. When you debunk their belief and bring an argument that they can't ignore they always circle back to another argument that you already debunked before. It's an endless battle against a rotting brain.
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@natureman said in how do you justify meat eating?:
@Hearthfire you can not argue with vegans, since it's a religious belief with no base in reality whatsoever. And depending on how long they've been on the diet, the brain damage is already so severe that no argument, proof or reasoning will get to them. When you debunk their belief and bring an argument that they can't ignore they always circle back to another argument that you already debunked before. It's an endless battle against a rotting brain.
I aint vegan. I didnt give my opinion on whever or not meat eating is bad/good morally or physically. OP Said he aint vegan.learn to read properly, you the one that seems to have religious belief, to be unbased on reality, to be brain damaged, and to be brain rotten, that's why i said end it earlyer, if you aint willing to exchange with people with different ideas with out being toxic, you are a worthless ghoul. your last comment is irelevant.
You both have trash arguments and both toxic
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@random do we need to go back to Weston A Price and Ray Peat work? Everything has been proven already. The whole argument against meat is idiotic. You watched too many disney movies.
If you say organs and meat tastes bad, then you're buying bad quality from sick animals. Stop supporting that and buy good meat.
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@natureman said in how do you justify meat eating?:
@random do we need to go back to Weston A Price and Ray Peat work? Everything has been proven already. The whole argument against meat is idiotic. You watched too many disney movies.
Read above.
what has been proven, bring arguments dont appeal to authority falacy.
Nah i watched to many your mother's movies
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@random said in how do you justify meat eating?:
@natureman said in how do you justify meat eating?:
@random do we need to go back to Weston A Price and Ray Peat work? Everything has been proven already. The whole argument against meat is idiotic. You watched too many disney movies.
Read above.
what has been proven, bring arguments dont appeal to authority falacy
Haha Fuck Off. This is not appeal to authority, this is: go and read on your own. I'm not going to spend hours picking the information that you are too lazy to obtain. It's all there for people who want to know. The arguments that I brought in the beginning of the thread are already enough.
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@natureman said in how do you justify meat eating?:
@random said in how do you justify meat eating?:
@natureman said in how do you justify meat eating?:
@random do we need to go back to Weston A Price and Ray Peat work? Everything has been proven already. The whole argument against meat is idiotic. You watched too many disney movies.
Read above.
what has been proven, bring arguments dont appeal to authority falacy
Haha Fuck Off. This is not appeal to authority, this is: go and read on your own. I'm not going to spend hours picking the information that you are too lazy to obtain. It's all there for people who want to know. The arguments that I brought in the beginning of the thread are already enough.
Rope. It is, you make claims, you attribute them to certains people implying these people proved something, yet you cant source anything, i aint gonna try to find the sources of all baseless claims. You are lazy. It is all there but you Cant provide it. You didnt bring any argument, the instinct argument is horrible, and the you need to slaughter and eat other animals to be healthy, what is your source?there is many counter claims, like africans that seems to be going strong that drink milk only for a whole year as adults
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@random so you are vegetarian? You might be already to far removed from reality to be saved.
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@natureman said in how do you justify meat eating?:
@random so you are vegetarian? You might be already to far removed from reality to be saved.fj
I am not. Learn to read. Is your brain stuck in binary false dichotomy? If someone doesnt claim that slaughtering and eating animal flesh is absolutly healthy and necessary for health Independently of context, therefore he is a vegan/vegetarian? Are babies or adult africans drinking milk only for a whole year brainrotten vegan/vegetarian?
i asked for sources, and mentionned counter exemples to your claims, that's it.
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@natureman said in how do you justify meat eating?:
@random
If you say organs and meat tastes bad, then you're buying bad quality from sick animals. Stop supporting that and buy good meat.
The meat,organs,fat i got are from animals that eat only grass and/or milk, 0 cereals, 0 vaccine, freely roaming, not all animals are in optimal health, and none of these factors guarantee that the organs, fat and meat will be tasty, smell good and make you feel good. And most beef are castrated even in grass fed organic, most meat is from mâles at least where i got meat from.
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@random why don't you become vegan or vegetarian?
