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    • ChudC
      Chud
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      nothing ever happens

      breakfast for dinner enjoyer

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        A Former User @Tarzan17
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        @Tarzan17

        On the contrary this is nothing short of a revolution. There is a fundamental wrongness in the health and nutrition field and the work of Ray Peat and by extension the sugar diet will literally change the world. People are obese and sick at a rate that probably wasnt even thought possible 50 years ago and the only way to reverse the course is to rewrite the established dogma. Sugar heals, fat kills. Its very simple and when people figure out the key to actually fixing their metabolism and losing fat for good without restricting and fads, it will change everything.

        Literally there is nothing more powerful then when someone truly regains their health. Imagine that on a grand scale.

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          Wabi-sabi @A Former User
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          @Zachs Yep, fat kills for sure..........Have you seen the 'Oiling of America, How the vegetable oil industry demonized saturated fat?
          Me personally only use Ghee, Butter, Coconut oil and olive oil in tiny amounts, and only when frying😇

          It takes a wabi heart to recognise sabi beauty.
          Make every day a doorway to delight.
          wabi-sabi reminds you that life is fragile and temporary, it is as impermanent as anything else in nature, so why not give yourself permission to be just that, yourself?

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          • ThinPickingT
            ThinPicking
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            I found it odd how none of you seemed to find it odd that pufa became a campaign ticket in a heartbeat. This world is moving around you. Welcome to earth.

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              Rah1woot @ThinPicking
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              @ThinPicking But that's just the thing. Contrary to the belief of the solipsistic hiterlites, correct programs win. Everything else is a temporary aberration or setback: in high-dimensional spaces, local minima are rare.

              So if one actually believes that Peat made a correct statement about biology (rather than some kind of gnostic program for the Special Ascension of a few Underemployed people), it barely matters that there are detractors.

              Of course one has to fight nonetheless. But the wind is in one's sails.

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                eduardo-crispino @Tarzan17
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                @Tarzan17 even the most surface level examination of this feeling would show how insecure it is to be threatened / intimidated by public accessing things to raise their health which would make life better for all

                theres no need for nuance

                eat sucrose foods only to lose weight
                go back to low fat high carb normal protein diet as normal
                if binging on fatty mixed meals just do a day or two of sucrose only after then go back to the low fat diet
                avoid seed oils

                wa la

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                • ThinPickingT
                  ThinPicking @Rah1woot
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                  That's part of "God wins" to me.

                  But there may or may not be a lot of money and prestige invested in engineering or reengineering these setbacks. Ignoring soapboxers and talking it through seems to keep the pace. And I'm definitely not wondering why.

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                  • AtmanA
                    Atman
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                    Watch out for subversive streams within this new trend.
                    Sugar and carb demonization was one of the biggest and most damaging health trends / psyops in the last decades. If it really gets crushed, it would be a huge win for public health, but I am yet to become optimistic.
                    Just look at the case of high PUFA seed oils: They are still being used in pretty much every restaurant and most processed foods. It was being framed as a right wring conspiracy theory and it seems like the progress against the PUFA oils has now been stalled.

                    Also, if you understood Ray's work, you are still light years ahead of people like durian rider and cole robinson.

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                      eduardo-crispino @Atman
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                      @Atman cole robinson and durian rider are lean and muscular relative to their desires (cole for previously weights and now cardio and calisthenics and etc, durian for cycling) thoughbeitever

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                        Corngold
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                        Think for yourself

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