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      randomname
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      About a year ago, I had a really bad reaction to a potent THC weed strain. It triggered a psychotic episode, and I experienced serotonin syndrome-like symptoms for about 24 hours — high fever, chills, vomiting, profuse sweating, and intense shaking

      Since that episode, I’ve become increasingly worried about developing schizophrenia. My cognitive abilities have significantly declined and still haven't fully recovered. I also suffer from severe headaches and dizziness .

      I’ve been having major sleep issues. Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night feeling extremely confused, with my mind stuck in a “loop” — worrying about something illogical. This is often accompanied by uncontrollable shaking that lasts for about 30 minutes before I can fall back asleep.

      Here’s some background on my health
      I have celiac disease and have been on a strict gluten-free diet for about 15 years (I was hospitalized for malnutrition as a child before diagnosis).
      I have hypothyroidism and take Levothyroxine T4 (50 mcg, Monday to Friday).
      I was recently told I have SIBO

      I’m constantly bloated and have long struggled with immune issues — including asthma and severe dermatitis, which at one point required immunosuppressants.

      Current Diet:
      Lactose-free milk
      Homemade gluten-free bread
      Butter
      Red meat
      Rice
      Carrots
      Tomatoes
      Bananas
      Some orange juice

      I experimented with nicotinic acid (around 500 mg a day), which gave me brief moments of mental clarity — though it might have been placebo. I stopped taking it after experiencing chest pain during the flush, which made me worried about my heart

      Should I continue taking nicotinic acid, or is there a safer form of Vitamin B3?

      Please avoid negative comments — i'm struggling a lot with negative thoughts
      Thank you in advance

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        ThinPicking
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        You'll be alright.

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          The diuretic effects produced by cannabinoids are comparable to those of the loop diuretic furosemide and the κ-opioid agonist U50,488. The effects of all four cannabinoid agonists were dose-related for all drugs, and moderate diuresis appeared at lower doses. However, the maximum diuretic effects of the four compounds were rather high and corresponded to the effect of preloading rats with 30.0 ml/kg water. It remains to be determined whether diuresis represents a potential new therapeutic use for cannabinoids or, instead, an additional clinical liability. Nevertheless, the present studies clearly show that urine output provides an easily obtained physiologic measure of the effects of CB1 agonists and, consequently, a robust and objective metric with which to assess the effects of novel cannabinoid agonists.

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            ThinPicking @ThinPicking
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            In my experience that can be an imperceptible loss long after the fact. Subclinical hypovolemia can feel very odd and unpleasant.

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              ThinPicking @randomname
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              @randomname said in Psychosis/Schizophrenia:

              I’m constantly bloated and have long struggled with immune issues — including asthma and severe dermatitis, which at one point required immunosuppressants.

              Maybe you'll come out on a better top.

              Current Diet:
              Lactose-free milk
              Homemade gluten-free bread
              Butter
              Red meat
              Rice
              Carrots
              Tomatoes
              Bananas
              Some orange juicejuice

              Can you be more specific please.

              Should I continue taking nicotinic acid, or is there a safer form of Vitamin B3?

              Niacinamide but I don't think you should take anything concentrated for now.

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                randomname @ThinPicking
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                @ThinPicking said in Psychosis/Schizophrenia:

                You'll be alright.

                Yeah I'm not sure, I forgot the most important piece of information and it is that I'm experiencing paranoia, disorganized thoughts, I'm irritated by any sound or visual stimulus, it's really hard for me to concentrate in one thing without my mind jumping into another unrelated subject, I have a constant feeling of impending doom, short term memory problems (sometimes I forget things that I did one moment ago). All of that indicates me that I might be developing schizophrenia given that there's a 20-50% change of doing so after a first weed-induced psychotic episode

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                  ThinPicking @randomname
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                  @randomname said in Psychosis/Schizophrenia:

                  Yeah I'm not sure, I forgot the most important piece of information and it is that I'm experiencing paranoia, disorganized thoughts, I'm irritated by any sound or visual stimulus, it's really hard for me to concentrate in one thing without my mind jumping into another unrelated subject, I have a constant feeling of impending doom, short term memory problems (sometimes I forget things that I did one moment ago). All of that indicates me that I might be developing schizophrenia given that there's a 20-50% change of doing so after a first weed-induced psychotic episode

                  @randomname said in Psychosis/Schizophrenia:

                  Please avoid negative comments — i'm struggling a lot with negative thoughts

                  Help us out.

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                    ThinPicking @ThinPicking
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                    @ThinPicking said in Psychosis/Schizophrenia:

                    Can you be more specific please.

                    Thanks.

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                      Meursault @randomname
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                        Meursault @randomname
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                        @randomname Hello there, I believe I had an experience similar to yours

                        Hallucinations, sleep issues, episodes lasting 20-30 minutes, destroyed mental clarity, lack of short term memory.
                        These weed strains can trigger a cascade of issues. Who knows what they are sprayed/ treated with.

                        It sounds like you are in an elevated stress state. If you are in a state of chronically elevated cortisol, you will become more sensitive to serotonin and also dopamine. When your neurons are in stress mode, they become reliant on glutamate for energy, an excitatory neurotransmitter, and without proper inhibition this will cause degeneration. It is the excitatory inhibitors, GABA, Orexin, that will oppose this over-excitatory response, but in a elevated stress state they will not be adequately expressed. Without the relevant action of these inhibitors, glutamate overload will result in excitotoxic cell death, excess serotonin and dopamine will be unopposed.
                        So it is my theory that when you have these constantly elevated levels of excitatory substances, dopamine, 5ht, glutamate, and you eventually run out of energy to oppose them, it causes these episodes where your brain becomes overloaded with serotonin and dopamine which causes the psychosis type symptoms. For me this went from 30 minutes episodes occasionally to extended periods daily. I would become non-functional, extremely confused, eventually started having hallucinations. As I put myself in a state of chronic stress from starvation.

                        What is important is to provide yourself with the necessary energy when you are in a sensitive state.
                        If you are running into problems during sleep, this would suggest to me you are likely running out of glucose during the night, which I'm guessing could be triggering these episodes you mention.
                        How much do you eat every day?
                        Do you experience issues after eating?
                        Blood sugar spikes/ crashes?
                        If you are hypothyroid, this will be exacerbating wasteful energy and lack of blood sugar regulation, again not providing brain needed energy. Intestinal inflammation will increase serotonin and histamine release.
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                        chronic stress leading to increased seretonin and dopamine in schizophrenicsschizo dopamine graph.webp
                        increased dopamine level in schizophrenia and psychosis
                        Hope this helps in some way.

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                          randomname @Meursault
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                          @Meursault Hello, thank you so much for taking the time to reply

                          @Meursault said in Psychosis/Schizophrenia:

                          It sounds like you are in an elevated stress state.

                          100%

                          @Meursault said in Psychosis/Schizophrenia:

                          If you are running into problems during sleep, this would suggest to me you are likely running out of glucose during the night, which I'm guessing could be triggering these episodes you mention.

                          This makes a lot of sense. Those episodes of shakiness mostly happened when I was taking nicotinic acid, and I read it lowers blood glucose.

                          @Meursault said in Psychosis/Schizophrenia:

                          How much do you eat every day?

                          Very little. I have to force myself to eat because I’m not hungry for most of the day. I get most of my hunger in the evening.

                          @Meursault said in Psychosis/Schizophrenia:

                          Blood sugar spikes/ crashes?

                          I notice a crash after breakfast. I also digest most food poorly and usually evacuate about an hour after eating.
                          The worst symptoms happened when I ate gluten by mistake — seems like I have a really strong gut-brain connection or an impaired blood-brain barrier.
                          Coffee or milk (haven’t figured out which one yet) also seems to exacerbate my symptoms

                          Here is my bloodwork from a couple of months ago:
                          Cortisol: 24.5 µg/dL
                          25 OH (Vitamin D): 56.5 ng/mL (I had taken 100,000 IU of vitamin D3)
                          TSH: 2.64 mUI/L
                          Prolactin: 6.7 ng/mL
                          Total Testosterone: 7.5 ng/mL
                          Free Testosterone: 157.4 pg/mL
                          Insulin: 7.5 µUI/mL
                          HOMA-IR: 1.65
                          Glycemia: 89 mg/dL
                          Red Blood Cell Count: 5,260,000 /mm³
                          Eosinophils: 11% → Confirmed eosinophilia
                          (This is always elevated in my bloodwork; doctors usually say it’s due to allergies.)

                          A couple of questions if you don't mind answering:
                          -What would you recommend I eat or avoid? (Or could you walk me through what you eat in a day?) Including supplements.
                          I’m currently taking:
                          Aspirin 500 mg – every other day
                          Creatine 5 g – in the morning
                          Magnesium bisglycinate 40 mg + L-theanine 150 mg – at night
                          -Is there a way to reverse or prevent further neuron degeneration?
                          -What's your opinion on the Abram Hoffer protocol?

                          Side note I live 2 floors above a 5g tower - though I will be moving soon
                          Thanks

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                            randomname
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                            @ThinPicking said in Psychosis/Schizophrenia:

                            Can you be more specific please.

                            I'm constantly changing the diet cause I'm not sure what causes my symptoms to increase
                            For example yesterday I ate:
                            Breakfast: Coffee with raw cacao powder and cream + scrambled eggs with cheese + sliced carrot
                            Lunch: Stake + rice
                            Evening: OJ and banana
                            Dinner: Stake + potatoes

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                              Meursault @randomname
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                              @randomname

                              @randomname said in Psychosis/Schizophrenia:

                              Is there a way to reverse or prevent further neuron degeneration

                              fix stress as priority. excitotoxic cell death will only occur when neurons are strained. Your cortisol is high. until you sort this and the SIBO out you are playing a hide and seek game with what foods you are 'sensitive' to IMO. intestinal inflammation/ SIBO will also be increasing cortisol and stress response. look into how to fix that. try glycine and spoonful of sugar at night to prevent crash. cyproheptadine will help histamine and cortisol. you need to eat properly to stop reliance on cortisol. you will crash after breakfast because blood glucose is lowest when you wake up. if you're hypothyroid it will be hard to maintain stable blood sugar. You said you take T4, do you feel anything on it?

                              @randomname said in Psychosis/Schizophrenia:

                              What would you recommend I eat or avoid?

                              just focus on eating enough food at regular times and not crashing. If you have celiac disease and SIBO idk what to advise in terms of specifics.

                              @randomname said in Psychosis/Schizophrenia:

                              I’m currently taking:
                              Aspirin 500 mg – every other day
                              Creatine 5 g – in the morning

                              Why?

                              @randomname said in Psychosis/Schizophrenia:

                              -What's your opinion on the Abram Hoffer protocol?

                              I've not heard of this but avoid high doses of B vitamins until more stable. they will increase energy demand and if you're hypothyroid this will just make you crash more.

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