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    A Bioenergetic View of Bioenergetics and Forum Structure

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    • AmazoniacA
      Amazoniac
      last edited by

      The branch of bioenergetics is taking new shapes and the indiscriminate use of the term by the community is getting common. At this pace, it will soon turn into a warning flag.

      It's bioenergetic this and that--here as an adjective rather than noun--and the overuse is somewhat degrading. If it sounds strange or generic without the bio- prefix (An Energetic Soap), it's preferable to ditch it. Just an opinion.

      If we limit it to the name of the forum, frame it as 'lively' and minimize its addition to anything, it should be fine. And it's not an exclusive space for bioenergetics as a discipline anyway.


      Below is a bioenergetic suggestion for a bioenergetic forum structure.

      It looks segmented in bioenergetic excess, but it's justified if the forum ends up having a lot of bioenergetic content to be organized and bioenergetic volunteers that can distribute the public posts available in their respective bioenergetic directories, which would be filled fast. Otherwise, expand this bioenergetic model as wished and needed.


      Nutrition

      Macronutrients
      	Protein
      		Amino acids 
      			Alanine
      			Arginine
      			Asparagine
      			Aspartate
      			Cysteine
      			Glutamine
      			Glutamate
      			Glycine
      			Histidine
      			Isoleucine
      			Leucine
      			Lysine
      			Methionine
      			Phenylalanine
      			Proline
      			Serine
      			Taurine
      			Threonine
      			Tryptophan
      			Tyrosine
      			Valine
      		Peptides
      	Carbohydrate
      		Monosaccharides
      			Glucose
      			Fructose
      			Galactose
      		Disaccharides
      			Maltose
      			Sucrose
      			Lactose
      		Polysaccharides
      			Starch
      		Fiber
      	Fat and lipids
      		Saturated
      		Monounsaturated
      		Polyunsaturated
      		Cholesterol
      		Phospholipids
      	
      Calories
      
      Micronutrients
      	Vitamins
      		B-vitamins
      			B1 - Thiamin
      			B2 - Riboflavin
      			B3 - Niacin
      			B5 - Pantothenic acid
      			B6 - Pyridoxin
      			B7 - Biotin
      			B9 - Folic acid
      			B12 - Cobalamin
      		C - Ascorbic acid
      		Fat-soluble
      			N/A #toxicbileapocalypse
      	Quasi-vitamins
      		Betaine
      		Carnitine
      		Choline
      		Inositol
      		Lipoic acid
      		Ubiquinone
      	Minerals
      		Major minerals
      			Sodium
      			Chloride
      			Potassium
      			Phosphorus
      			Calcium
      			Magnesium
      			Sulfur
      		Trace and ultratrace minerals
      			Boron
      			Chromium
      			Cobalt
      			Copper
      			Fluorine
      			Iodine
      			Iron
      			Manganese
      			Molybdenum
      			Nickel
      			Selenium
      			Silicon
      			Vanadium
      			Zinc
      
      Foods
      	Cereals
      		Rice
      		Oat
      		Wheat
      	Confectionery
      		Chocolate
      	Dairies
      		Milk
      		Yogurt
      		Cheese
      		Cream
      		Butter
      	Eggs
      	Fruits
      		Apple
      		Banana
      		Grape
      		Orange
      		Melon
      		Pineapple
      		Strawberry
      		Dried
      	Legumes
      		Beans
      		Lentils
      		Peas
      		Soybean
      		Peanuts
      	Meats
      		Red meat
      		Poultry
      		Fish
      		Shellfish
      		Organ meats
      	Collagen
      	Vegetables
      		Roots and tubers
      			Carrot
      			Beet
      			Cassava
      			Potato
      			Sweet potato
      			Taro
      			Yam
      		Leaves
      		Nuts and seeds
      	Mushrooms
      
      Culinary herbs, spices and seasonings
      	Cinnamon
      	Garlic
      	Ginger
      	Turmeric
      	Vinegar
      
      Beverages
      	Water
      	Juice
      	Tea
      	Coffee
      	Soda
      
      Meals
      	Recipes
      
      Dietary models
      
      Cookware
      

      Light

      Sunlight exposure
      Ambient illumination
      Artificial light therapy
      

      Sleep and the somnosphere

      Good practices (sleep hygiene)
      Shift workers
      Issues
      	Insomnia
      	Nocturia
      	Daytime sleepiness
      Dreams
      

      Physical activity (physical activity > exercise > gym)

      Walking
      Hiking
      Bicycling
      Running
      Sprinting
      Strength training
      Calisthenics
      Stretching
      Dancing
      Yoga
      

      Environment

      Altitude
      Climate
      Toxins
      

      Hormones

      Asteroid hormones
      	Corticosteroids
      		Glucocorticoids
      		Mineralocorticoids
      	Sex steroids
      		Progestogens
      		Androgens
      		Estrogens
      	Venom D (linking to ex-vitamins)
      Nonasteroid hormones (proteins, peptides and amino acid derivatives)
      	Pituitary
      		Growth hormone (GH)
      		Prolactin (PRL)
      		Thyroid-stimulating hormone (TSH)
      		Adrenocorticotropic hormone (ACTH)
      		Follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH)
      		Luteinizing hormone (LH)
      		Antidiuretic hormone (ADH)
      		Oxytocin
      	Pineal
      		Melanin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgaRVvAKoqQ)
      	Thyroid
      		Thyroxine (T4)
      		Triiodothyronine (T3)
      		Calcitonin (CT)
      	Parathyroid hormone (PTH)
      	Adrenal (medulla)
      		Noradrenaline (norepinephrine)
      		Adrenaline (epinephrine)
      	Pancreas
      		Insulin
      		Glucagon
      Eicosanoids (prostaglandins, leukotrienes, and others)
      

      Respiratory physiology

      Oxygen
      Carbon dioxide
      Therapies
      Devices
      Air quality and pollution
      

      Tests

      Blood tests
      Urine tests
      Stool tests
      Hair, skin, and nail tests
      Imaging
      

      Afflictions

      Articular
      Auricular
      Cardiac
      Circulatory
      Dermal
      Diabetes
      Endocrine
      Gastrointestinal
      Genital
      Immunological
      Infections
      Metabolic
      Muscular
      Neoplasms
      Nervous
      Neurological
      Nutritional
      Olfatory
      Oral
      Respiratory
      Sexual
      Skeletal
      Visual
      Weight
      

      Supplements (non-nutrient) (..)

      Activated charcoal
      Caffeine
      Cascara sagrada
      Creatine
      Herbs
      Hydrochloric acid (HCl)
      Probiotics
      Whey protein
      

      Drugs

      Analgesics
      Antacids
      Anticancers
      Antihistamines
      Antiinflammatory
      Antimicrobial
      	Antibiotics
      Antipyretics
      Astringents
      Bronchodilators
      Cardiotonics
      Carminatives
      Contraceptives
      Expectorants
      Mood stabilizers
      Purgatives
      Stimulants
      Tranquilizers
      

      Therapies (..)

      Phytotherapy
      Immunotherapy
      Heat therapy (thermotherapy)
      	Sauna
      

      Art

      Architecture
      Dance
      Film
      Literature
      Music
      Painting
      Sculpture
      

      Companion animals

      Cats
      Dogs
      Lions
      Rabbits
      Reptiles
      Rodents
      

      • Junkyard: perhaps away from the view and below the fold?
      • 'Case studies' can include logs.
      • There can be a section to contain economics, history, philosophy, politics, religion and sociology.
      • A subforum for mental wellness is missing.
      • Spaces for random quotes and also maternity wouldn't be a bad idea.
      • Ray resources could fall within something like 'Notable minds', where people could list more names. But emphasis on Ray is fair because the community exists thanks to him.

      I hope this helps.

      I now have a support page!

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      • PissBoyP
        PissBoy
        last edited by

        I think there should be an AI powered tag generator for each post/reply and it could help group posts into tag specific heatmaps and the entire forum exists in this bubbly map of tags.

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        • bradB
          brad @Amazoniac
          last edited by

          @Amazoniac Are you suggesting each of the quoted text should be a subforum?

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          • Hando-JinH
            Hando-Jin @brad
            last edited by

            Too many subforums is one of the many reasons rpf sucks.

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            • skylarkS
              skylark
              last edited by

              I agree with OP. Higher information flow -> higher structural complexity. It's just the bioenergetic thing to do.

              Also how do I get to the Black Lodge subsection? I followed all the instructions but when I open my eyes I'm still in the phenomenal world.

              Good things are immeasurably costly

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              • AmazoniacA
                Amazoniac @brad
                last edited by Amazoniac

                @brad

                Yes, but if you find it overwhelming, it can be simplified. Something along these lines:

                Health

                Nutrition
                	Proteins, peptides and amino acids
                	Carbohydrates and fiber
                	Fats and lipids
                	Calories
                	Vitamins and quasi-vitamins
                	Minerals: major, trace and ultratrace
                	Foods
                		Cereals
                		Confectioneries
                		Diaries
                		Eggs
                		Fruits
                		Legumes
                		Meats
                		Collagen
                		Vegetables (roots, tubers, leaves, and others)
                		Mushrooms
                	Beverages
                	Culinary herbs, spices and seasonings
                	Dietary models
                	Cookware
                Light
                Sleep
                Physical activity
                All-things respiration
                Mental wellness
                Hormones
                	Corticosteroids (Glucocorticoids, Mineralocorticoids)
                	Sex steroids (Progestogens, Androgens, Estrogens)
                	Nonsteroid hormones
                Tests
                Afflictions
                Therapies
                Supplements (non-nutrient)
                Drugs
                Maternity
                

                Environment
                Case studies and logs
                The Greats
                Antisocial sciences
                Art
                Companion animals
                Junkyard

                I illustrated with the first, but you'd have to expand the other categories as wished and include what's missing. For some reason, parts of the text are appearing in different color or bolded, yet these weren't on purpose.

                The regular forum searches are unreliable to compile relevant posts on a topic because of the irrelevant results that appear in between.

                With simpler directories, we'd be relying on the tags system, and only part of members is fond of it; others prefer to navigate through menus. Those who prefer to search can ignore the subdivisions, pick a major category and the desired tags. If they're after random content, there's the page with recent activity. However, the persons who are into menus are discouraged without the existence of proper directories.

                But some standardization must also be present to better organize the content in relying on tags. Without a list to select from (similar to what was proposed earlier), it's common to have different terms referring to the same matter (example: thiamine, thiamin, B1, vitamin B1). An incomplete structure along with an erratic tags system is an issue that's better addressed early on.

                I now have a support page!

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                  Insr @Hando-Jin
                  last edited by

                  @Hando-Jin I agree

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                  • SalemSaysS
                    SalemSays
                    last edited by

                    Guru
                    Would you prefer it be called the pro-metabolic forum ?
                    Does that make us professionals or maybe professors ?
                    What's with all the fat soluble hate it sounds like fat shaming to me but as for acronyms PMF doesn't roll quite off the tongue as BF then we could be BFFs works much better with formalwear

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                    • AmazoniacA
                      Amazoniac @SalemSays
                      last edited by Amazoniac

                      I think that we're past naming, but for something unique related to metabolism, it could be Metabotropic Forum.

                      The way that the forum is designed (with a discreet search icon on top) induces people to explore rather than search. The landing page is not on all recent content and encourages navigation towards affinities, which is advantageous, but it's not divided enough. People have large buckets to dump their threads with minimal criteria.

                      A woman may have a relative in critical situation dealing with advanced cancer, browses the forum for hope, only to encounter:

                      • https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/368/cum-maxxing-the-holy-grail-of-cum/
                      • https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/44/thoughts-on-gelatinous-ejaculation/
                      • https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/619/dickmaxxing/

                      Without proper niches to contain these topics, people have no choice but to post them on grand categories and interests confuse.

                      • Forum > Bioenergetic Discussions

                      Compared to..

                      • Forum > Health > Sexual Health > Male
                      • Forum > Health > Sexual Health > Female

                      To make it worse, check the list of recent threads: only a minority are tagged (and without standardized terms). If you're horny and trying to procreate, it can be tricky to find information on sexual health from a sea of threads with different names in use.

                      A person may visit the forum interested in paintings, but what if the art category is dominated by music? It would be challenging to filter once the content piles up.

                      I now have a support page!

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                      • P
                        peatyourmeat Banned
                        last edited by

                        too much thinking for a forum that costs 300$ a month and was made because of twitter community drama

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                          Lipidfree @Amazoniac
                          last edited by

                          @Amazoniac Very good and rather pressing suggestion imo, unsurprising coming from a great poster from RPF. I personally like tags and advanced searches, but the present subdivision of this forum is lacking, especially if it was grow large.

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