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A Bioenergetic View of Bioenergetics and Forum Structure

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  • A
    Amazoniac
    last edited by Feb 4, 2024, 10:12 PM

    The branch of bioenergetics is taking new shapes and the indiscriminate use of the term by the community is getting common. At this pace, it will soon turn into a warning flag.

    It's bioenergetic this and that--here as an adjective rather than noun--and the overuse is somewhat degrading. If it sounds strange or generic without the bio- prefix (An Energetic Soap), it's preferable to ditch it. Just an opinion.

    If we limit it to the name of the forum, frame it as 'lively' and minimize its addition to anything, it should be fine. And it's not an exclusive space for bioenergetics as a discipline anyway.


    Below is a bioenergetic suggestion for a bioenergetic forum structure.

    It looks segmented in bioenergetic excess, but it's justified if the forum ends up having a lot of bioenergetic content to be organized and bioenergetic volunteers that can distribute the public posts available in their respective bioenergetic directories, which would be filled fast. Otherwise, expand this bioenergetic model as wished and needed.


    Nutrition

    Macronutrients
    	Protein
    		Amino acids 
    			Alanine
    			Arginine
    			Asparagine
    			Aspartate
    			Cysteine
    			Glutamine
    			Glutamate
    			Glycine
    			Histidine
    			Isoleucine
    			Leucine
    			Lysine
    			Methionine
    			Phenylalanine
    			Proline
    			Serine
    			Taurine
    			Threonine
    			Tryptophan
    			Tyrosine
    			Valine
    		Peptides
    	Carbohydrate
    		Monosaccharides
    			Glucose
    			Fructose
    			Galactose
    		Disaccharides
    			Maltose
    			Sucrose
    			Lactose
    		Polysaccharides
    			Starch
    		Fiber
    	Fat and lipids
    		Saturated
    		Monounsaturated
    		Polyunsaturated
    		Cholesterol
    		Phospholipids
    	
    Calories
    
    Micronutrients
    	Vitamins
    		B-vitamins
    			B1 - Thiamin
    			B2 - Riboflavin
    			B3 - Niacin
    			B5 - Pantothenic acid
    			B6 - Pyridoxin
    			B7 - Biotin
    			B9 - Folic acid
    			B12 - Cobalamin
    		C - Ascorbic acid
    		Fat-soluble
    			N/A #toxicbileapocalypse
    	Quasi-vitamins
    		Betaine
    		Carnitine
    		Choline
    		Inositol
    		Lipoic acid
    		Ubiquinone
    	Minerals
    		Major minerals
    			Sodium
    			Chloride
    			Potassium
    			Phosphorus
    			Calcium
    			Magnesium
    			Sulfur
    		Trace and ultratrace minerals
    			Boron
    			Chromium
    			Cobalt
    			Copper
    			Fluorine
    			Iodine
    			Iron
    			Manganese
    			Molybdenum
    			Nickel
    			Selenium
    			Silicon
    			Vanadium
    			Zinc
    
    Foods
    	Cereals
    		Rice
    		Oat
    		Wheat
    	Confectionery
    		Chocolate
    	Dairies
    		Milk
    		Yogurt
    		Cheese
    		Cream
    		Butter
    	Eggs
    	Fruits
    		Apple
    		Banana
    		Grape
    		Orange
    		Melon
    		Pineapple
    		Strawberry
    		Dried
    	Legumes
    		Beans
    		Lentils
    		Peas
    		Soybean
    		Peanuts
    	Meats
    		Red meat
    		Poultry
    		Fish
    		Shellfish
    		Organ meats
    	Collagen
    	Vegetables
    		Roots and tubers
    			Carrot
    			Beet
    			Cassava
    			Potato
    			Sweet potato
    			Taro
    			Yam
    		Leaves
    		Nuts and seeds
    	Mushrooms
    
    Culinary herbs, spices and seasonings
    	Cinnamon
    	Garlic
    	Ginger
    	Turmeric
    	Vinegar
    
    Beverages
    	Water
    	Juice
    	Tea
    	Coffee
    	Soda
    
    Meals
    	Recipes
    
    Dietary models
    
    Cookware
    

    Light

    Sunlight exposure
    Ambient illumination
    Artificial light therapy
    

    Sleep and the somnosphere

    Good practices (sleep hygiene)
    Shift workers
    Issues
    	Insomnia
    	Nocturia
    	Daytime sleepiness
    Dreams
    

    Physical activity (physical activity > exercise > gym)

    Walking
    Hiking
    Bicycling
    Running
    Sprinting
    Strength training
    Calisthenics
    Stretching
    Dancing
    Yoga
    

    Environment

    Altitude
    Climate
    Toxins
    

    Hormones

    Asteroid hormones
    	Corticosteroids
    		Glucocorticoids
    		Mineralocorticoids
    	Sex steroids
    		Progestogens
    		Androgens
    		Estrogens
    	Venom D (linking to ex-vitamins)
    Nonasteroid hormones (proteins, peptides and amino acid derivatives)
    	Pituitary
    		Growth hormone (GH)
    		Prolactin (PRL)
    		Thyroid-stimulating hormone (TSH)
    		Adrenocorticotropic hormone (ACTH)
    		Follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH)
    		Luteinizing hormone (LH)
    		Antidiuretic hormone (ADH)
    		Oxytocin
    	Pineal
    		Melanin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgaRVvAKoqQ)
    	Thyroid
    		Thyroxine (T4)
    		Triiodothyronine (T3)
    		Calcitonin (CT)
    	Parathyroid hormone (PTH)
    	Adrenal (medulla)
    		Noradrenaline (norepinephrine)
    		Adrenaline (epinephrine)
    	Pancreas
    		Insulin
    		Glucagon
    Eicosanoids (prostaglandins, leukotrienes, and others)
    

    Respiratory physiology

    Oxygen
    Carbon dioxide
    Therapies
    Devices
    Air quality and pollution
    

    Tests

    Blood tests
    Urine tests
    Stool tests
    Hair, skin, and nail tests
    Imaging
    

    Afflictions

    Articular
    Auricular
    Cardiac
    Circulatory
    Dermal
    Diabetes
    Endocrine
    Gastrointestinal
    Genital
    Immunological
    Infections
    Metabolic
    Muscular
    Neoplasms
    Nervous
    Neurological
    Nutritional
    Olfatory
    Oral
    Respiratory
    Sexual
    Skeletal
    Visual
    Weight
    

    Supplements (non-nutrient) (..)

    Activated charcoal
    Caffeine
    Cascara sagrada
    Creatine
    Herbs
    Hydrochloric acid (HCl)
    Probiotics
    Whey protein
    

    Drugs

    Analgesics
    Antacids
    Anticancers
    Antihistamines
    Antiinflammatory
    Antimicrobial
    	Antibiotics
    Antipyretics
    Astringents
    Bronchodilators
    Cardiotonics
    Carminatives
    Contraceptives
    Expectorants
    Mood stabilizers
    Purgatives
    Stimulants
    Tranquilizers
    

    Therapies (..)

    Phytotherapy
    Immunotherapy
    Heat therapy (thermotherapy)
    	Sauna
    

    Art

    Architecture
    Dance
    Film
    Literature
    Music
    Painting
    Sculpture
    

    Companion animals

    Cats
    Dogs
    Lions
    Rabbits
    Reptiles
    Rodents
    

    • Junkyard: perhaps away from the view and below the fold?
    • 'Case studies' can include logs.
    • There can be a section to contain economics, history, philosophy, politics, religion and sociology.
    • A subforum for mental wellness is missing.
    • Spaces for random quotes and also maternity wouldn't be a bad idea.
    • Ray resources could fall within something like 'Notable minds', where people could list more names. But emphasis on Ray is fair because the community exists thanks to him.

    I hope this helps.

    I now have a support page!

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      PissBoy
      last edited by Feb 4, 2024, 10:56 PM

      I think there should be an AI powered tag generator for each post/reply and it could help group posts into tag specific heatmaps and the entire forum exists in this bubbly map of tags.

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        brad @Amazoniac
        last edited by Feb 5, 2024, 2:38 AM

        @Amazoniac Are you suggesting each of the quoted text should be a subforum?

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          Hando-Jin @brad
          last edited by Feb 5, 2024, 6:39 AM

          Too many subforums is one of the many reasons rpf sucks.

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            skylark
            last edited by Feb 5, 2024, 12:38 PM

            I agree with OP. Higher information flow -> higher structural complexity. It's just the bioenergetic thing to do.

            Also how do I get to the Black Lodge subsection? I followed all the instructions but when I open my eyes I'm still in the phenomenal world.

            Good things are immeasurably costly

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              Amazoniac @brad
              last edited by Amazoniac Feb 6, 2024, 8:54 PM Feb 6, 2024, 8:30 PM

              @brad

              Yes, but if you find it overwhelming, it can be simplified. Something along these lines:

              Health

              Nutrition
              	Proteins, peptides and amino acids
              	Carbohydrates and fiber
              	Fats and lipids
              	Calories
              	Vitamins and quasi-vitamins
              	Minerals: major, trace and ultratrace
              	Foods
              		Cereals
              		Confectioneries
              		Diaries
              		Eggs
              		Fruits
              		Legumes
              		Meats
              		Collagen
              		Vegetables (roots, tubers, leaves, and others)
              		Mushrooms
              	Beverages
              	Culinary herbs, spices and seasonings
              	Dietary models
              	Cookware
              Light
              Sleep
              Physical activity
              All-things respiration
              Mental wellness
              Hormones
              	Corticosteroids (Glucocorticoids, Mineralocorticoids)
              	Sex steroids (Progestogens, Androgens, Estrogens)
              	Nonsteroid hormones
              Tests
              Afflictions
              Therapies
              Supplements (non-nutrient)
              Drugs
              Maternity
              

              Environment
              Case studies and logs
              The Greats
              Antisocial sciences
              Art
              Companion animals
              Junkyard

              I illustrated with the first, but you'd have to expand the other categories as wished and include what's missing. For some reason, parts of the text are appearing in different color or bolded, yet these weren't on purpose.

              The regular forum searches are unreliable to compile relevant posts on a topic because of the irrelevant results that appear in between.

              With simpler directories, we'd be relying on the tags system, and only part of members is fond of it; others prefer to navigate through menus. Those who prefer to search can ignore the subdivisions, pick a major category and the desired tags. If they're after random content, there's the page with recent activity. However, the persons who are into menus are discouraged without the existence of proper directories.

              But some standardization must also be present to better organize the content in relying on tags. Without a list to select from (similar to what was proposed earlier), it's common to have different terms referring to the same matter (example: thiamine, thiamin, B1, vitamin B1). An incomplete structure along with an erratic tags system is an issue that's better addressed early on.

              I now have a support page!

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                Insr @Hando-Jin
                last edited by Feb 6, 2024, 11:49 PM

                @Hando-Jin I agree

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                  SalemSays
                  last edited by Feb 7, 2024, 2:47 AM

                  Guru
                  Would you prefer it be called the pro-metabolic forum ?
                  Does that make us professionals or maybe professors ?
                  What's with all the fat soluble hate it sounds like fat shaming to me but as for acronyms PMF doesn't roll quite off the tongue as BF then we could be BFFs works much better with formalwear

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                    Amazoniac @SalemSays
                    last edited by Amazoniac Feb 7, 2024, 12:22 PM Feb 7, 2024, 12:12 PM

                    I think that we're past naming, but for something unique related to metabolism, it could be Metabotropic Forum.

                    The way that the forum is designed (with a discreet search icon on top) induces people to explore rather than search. The landing page is not on all recent content and encourages navigation towards affinities, which is advantageous, but it's not divided enough. People have large buckets to dump their threads with minimal criteria.

                    A woman may have a relative in critical situation dealing with advanced cancer, browses the forum for hope, only to encounter:

                    • https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/368/cum-maxxing-the-holy-grail-of-cum/
                    • https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/44/thoughts-on-gelatinous-ejaculation/
                    • https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/619/dickmaxxing/

                    Without proper niches to contain these topics, people have no choice but to post them on grand categories and interests confuse.

                    • Forum > Bioenergetic Discussions

                    Compared to..

                    • Forum > Health > Sexual Health > Male
                    • Forum > Health > Sexual Health > Female

                    To make it worse, check the list of recent threads: only a minority are tagged (and without standardized terms). If you're horny and trying to procreate, it can be tricky to find information on sexual health from a sea of threads with different names in use.

                    A person may visit the forum interested in paintings, but what if the art category is dominated by music? It would be challenging to filter once the content piles up.

                    I now have a support page!

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                      peatyourmeat Banned
                      last edited by Feb 7, 2024, 1:21 PM

                      too much thinking for a forum that costs 300$ a month and was made because of twitter community drama

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                        Lipidfree @Amazoniac
                        last edited by Feb 10, 2024, 10:23 PM

                        @Amazoniac Very good and rather pressing suggestion imo, unsurprising coming from a great poster from RPF. I personally like tags and advanced searches, but the present subdivision of this forum is lacking, especially if it was grow large.

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