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      bio3nergetic @CrumblingCookie
      last edited by bio3nergetic

      @CrumblingCookie I think you're oscillating unnecessarily between two extremes, running the meaning and purpose of a given background system and applying it disproportionally to proactive health choice. Peat's sentiment about autophagy isn't "neglect" or "belittlement," nor is he saying it isn't important, but rather the emphasis on not intentionally pushing certain systems out of context because stress brings about an induction of said system with the loaded premise that, that system being pushed is good. Autophagy - and in context of effective phagocytic activity - takes care of itself with an over-arching nutritional/bioenergetic application. When you get that right, those systems purr right along as they should. When you prolong fast; "artificially fast as I put it chronically, you are pushing those systems out of context. This will not give you good results. In these out-of-contexts scenarios, the cell is eating its own apparatus, regardless of its state because the stress signal and uncoping of that stress dictates that. What you describe is preaching to the choir. What should be emphasized is good health/bioenergy to ensure those systems do their thing WITHIN context, in which, things you describe apply and for the good of the organism. It is always about the whole forest. You can get lost in the trees themselves or worse - as I suspect with a lot of these worthless studies - you can easily create an "allegory of the cave" type situation: they beguile you with shadows and red herrings. What fascinates me is how easy it is in life to do so.

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      • MauritioM
        Mauritio
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        Lanolin/cholesterol rich diet protects from osteonecrosis.
        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24171681/

        Dare to think.

        My X:
        x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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        • LejebocaL
          Lejeboca @Mauritio
          last edited by

          @Mauritio,
          Vitamin E prevents steroid-induced osteonecrosis in rabbits
          Found in the 'Similar articles' in pubmed.
          The experiments seem to corroborate the ones in the 'CHOL article':
          In the Control group 15 out of 30 had the osteonecrosis, while in the alpha-tocopherol one 5/20.

          I suppose the Vitamin E + high-cholesterol (lanolin) would be the best diet.

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          • LejebocaL
            Lejeboca
            last edited by Lejeboca

            Topical Oxidized Vitamin C (DHA) permeates through skin 12x faster than ascorbic acid.

            Even though the human study below is from a company that produced the product with DHA, it seems to be very carefully done with practical considerations.

            Topical Dehydroascorbic Acid (Oxidized Vitamin C) Permeates Stratum Corneum More Rapidly Than Ascorbic Acid

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            • MauritioM
              Mauritio @Lejeboca
              last edited by

              @Lejeboca yes I saw that one too but hadn't clicked on it. Thanks for sharing.

              Dare to think.

              My X:
              x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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              • MauritioM
                Mauritio
                last edited by

                Sorbitol

                I'd be careful with sorbitol. The issue with sorbitol is that it is often made with a nickel catalyst, which leaches into the endproduct.

                " The Cr/Fe promoted system exhibits the highest activity but the Fe leaches from the catalyst into the reaction mixture. Moreover, this catalyst deactivates after successive runs. For all Raney-type Ni catalysts leaching of Ni in the product mixture occurs."
                https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0920586103000403?via%3Dihub

                Although Ray said a little is ok:

                Post 28 Title: Bryan · Feb 4, 2013 at 5:00 PM Author: Bryan Post Content:

                Me: Is sorbitol o.k. to eat? I got some gummy bears that have it in them.

                Peat: A little is o.k.

                Dare to think.

                My X:
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                • MauritioM
                  Mauritio
                  last edited by Mauritio

                  Papaya/Papain

                  Papain reverses the effects of a high fat diet in mice. The mice getting Papain, did not gain more weight than the mice on a normal control diet.
                  Papain even lowered visceral fat content slightly below the control group.
                  It lowered liver enzymes, triglycerides, adipogenic and inflammatory Markers.
                  It also drastically upregulated AMPK, similarly to aspirin, biotin or infrared light.

                  https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8468764/

                  Potent Fibrinolytic, Anticoagulant, and Antithrombotic Effects of Papain
                  https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38069092/

                  Lowers the number of mast cells and inflammatory cytokines
                  https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39199175/

                  Papain has anti-artherosclerotic effect. Lowers COX-2, PGE2 and other cytokines.
                  https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36947095/

                  Papaya extract increases testosterone and sperm health, damaged by alcohol.
                  https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7099107/#Sec17

                  Dare to think.

                  My X:
                  x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                  • MauritioM
                    Mauritio
                    last edited by

                    Oyster peptides increase testosterone
                    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10563733/

                    Dare to think.

                    My X:
                    x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                    • alfredoolivasA
                      alfredoolivas @Mauritio
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                      @Mauritio Seems to be an affordable experiment to try: a kg costs only 90 dollars

                      https://enzymes.bio/product/papain-200000-u-g-food-grade-biological-enzyme/

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                      • MauritioM
                        Mauritio @alfredoolivas
                        last edited by

                        @alfredoolivas why would you want a KG of it to experiment with it ??

                        Dare to think.

                        My X:
                        x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                        • alfredoolivasA
                          alfredoolivas @Mauritio
                          last edited by alfredoolivas

                          @Mauritio I don't want to experiment with it, I was just pointing it out because

                          1.) Animal studies often use large doses, that aren't feasable with dosages found in OTC supplements
                          2.) Raw materials are rarely food / USP grade, and this was food grade. They also can be expensive and not sold to private individuals.

                          So I was letting you know about it, incase you wanted to try it.

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