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    • MauritioM
      Mauritio
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      Lanolin/cholesterol rich diet protects from osteonecrosis.
      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24171681/

      Dare to think.

      My X:
      x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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      • LejebocaL
        Lejeboca @Mauritio
        last edited by

        @Mauritio,
        Vitamin E prevents steroid-induced osteonecrosis in rabbits
        Found in the 'Similar articles' in pubmed.
        The experiments seem to corroborate the ones in the 'CHOL article':
        In the Control group 15 out of 30 had the osteonecrosis, while in the alpha-tocopherol one 5/20.

        I suppose the Vitamin E + high-cholesterol (lanolin) would be the best diet.

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        • LejebocaL
          Lejeboca
          last edited by Lejeboca

          Topical Oxidized Vitamin C (DHA) permeates through skin 12x faster than ascorbic acid.

          Even though the human study below is from a company that produced the product with DHA, it seems to be very carefully done with practical considerations.

          Topical Dehydroascorbic Acid (Oxidized Vitamin C) Permeates Stratum Corneum More Rapidly Than Ascorbic Acid

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          • MauritioM
            Mauritio @Lejeboca
            last edited by

            @Lejeboca yes I saw that one too but hadn't clicked on it. Thanks for sharing.

            Dare to think.

            My X:
            x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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            • MauritioM
              Mauritio
              last edited by

              Sorbitol

              I'd be careful with sorbitol. The issue with sorbitol is that it is often made with a nickel catalyst, which leaches into the endproduct.

              " The Cr/Fe promoted system exhibits the highest activity but the Fe leaches from the catalyst into the reaction mixture. Moreover, this catalyst deactivates after successive runs. For all Raney-type Ni catalysts leaching of Ni in the product mixture occurs."
              https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0920586103000403?via%3Dihub

              Although Ray said a little is ok:

              Post 28 Title: Bryan · Feb 4, 2013 at 5:00 PM Author: Bryan Post Content:

              Me: Is sorbitol o.k. to eat? I got some gummy bears that have it in them.

              Peat: A little is o.k.

              Dare to think.

              My X:
              x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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              • MauritioM
                Mauritio
                last edited by Mauritio

                Papaya/Papain

                Papain reverses the effects of a high fat diet in mice. The mice getting Papain, did not gain more weight than the mice on a normal control diet.
                Papain even lowered visceral fat content slightly below the control group.
                It lowered liver enzymes, triglycerides, adipogenic and inflammatory Markers.
                It also drastically upregulated AMPK, similarly to aspirin, biotin or infrared light.

                https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8468764/

                Potent Fibrinolytic, Anticoagulant, and Antithrombotic Effects of Papain
                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38069092/

                Lowers the number of mast cells and inflammatory cytokines
                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39199175/

                Papain has anti-artherosclerotic effect. Lowers COX-2, PGE2 and other cytokines.
                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36947095/

                Papaya extract increases testosterone and sperm health, damaged by alcohol.
                https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7099107/#Sec17

                Papain had anti fungal effects against different fungi, including ringworm.
                https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3209867/
                https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11128596/

                Papaya extract has anxiolytic effect
                Evaluation of anxiolytic and sedative effects of 80% ethanolic Carica
                papaya L. (Caricaceae) pulp extract in mice

                Papaya extract has anti-depressant effect and lowers body weight.
                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40457195/
                Papaya extract has anti depressnt effect. Lowers lipid peroxidation, increases catalase.
                https://ijprajournal.com/issue_dcp/Screening of Antidepressant Activity of Ethanolic Extract of Carica papaya L. Leaves in Rats.pdf

                Papaya extract ameliorates a lot of the conditions bright on by sodium flouride on the brain and neurorransmitters.
                https://phcog.com/article/sites/default/files/PhcogMag1455123-2802918_074709.pdf

                Dare to think.

                My X:
                x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                • MauritioM
                  Mauritio
                  last edited by

                  Oyster peptides increase testosterone
                  https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10563733/

                  Dare to think.

                  My X:
                  x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                  • alfredoolivasA
                    alfredoolivas @Mauritio
                    last edited by

                    @Mauritio Seems to be an affordable experiment to try: a kg costs only 90 dollars

                    https://enzymes.bio/product/papain-200000-u-g-food-grade-biological-enzyme/

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                    • MauritioM
                      Mauritio @alfredoolivas
                      last edited by

                      @alfredoolivas why would you want a KG of it to experiment with it ??

                      Dare to think.

                      My X:
                      x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                      • alfredoolivasA
                        alfredoolivas @Mauritio
                        last edited by alfredoolivas

                        @Mauritio I don't want to experiment with it, I was just pointing it out because

                        1.) Animal studies often use large doses, that aren't feasable with dosages found in OTC supplements
                        2.) Raw materials are rarely food / USP grade, and this was food grade. They also can be expensive and not sold to private individuals.

                        So I was letting you know about it, incase you wanted to try it.

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                        • lobotomizeL
                          lobotomize @alfredoolivas
                          last edited by lobotomize

                          @alfredoolivas tried to buy lactase from them. They list a goverment building as their site of operations. Probably a scam website. Fucking hate eu chem restrictions

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                          • alfredoolivasA
                            alfredoolivas @lobotomize
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                            @lobotomize Good detective work 👍

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                            • C
                              CrumblingCookie @Mauritio
                              last edited by CrumblingCookie

                              @Mauritio said in Random, interesting studies:

                              Papain even lowered visceral fat content slightly below the control group.
                              It lowered liver enzymes, triglycerides, adipogenic and inflammatory Markers.
                              It also drastically upregulated AMPK, similarly to aspirin, biotin or infrared light.

                              https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8468764/

                              Nice find. It lowers PPARγ (decreased lipogenesis). By the looks of it increasing CaMKK, LKB1, Sirt1 (which of course are all in reciprocal interaction with AMPK) it probably also works via enhanced degradation of intracellular lipid droplet accumulations, i.e. more lipophagy/autophagy.
                              Bookmarked for later.

                              Edit: Papain's bound to be biphasic, though, with sub-baseline inhibition past an initial bell curve: Intraarticular injection of papain is how they experimentally induce osteoarthritis and that seems to last beyond immediate enzymatic effects.
                              And with coronaviruses they describe papain-like proteases being responsible for profound lipophagy/autophagy inhibition.
                              -> Mechanism of action for the positive findings unclear.
                              Hormetic stimulation at small doses in healthy animals/tissues/circumstances?
                              Although the beneficial doses about 10mg/mL (ie c. 1% concentration) in the study above are not particularly small at all?

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                              • sunsunsunS
                                sunsunsun @CrumblingCookie
                                last edited by

                                fwiw @Mauritio I dont read your twitter stuff because twitter is le gay and doesn't let me scroll properly without an account which requires a phone number and etc etc which is super gehy so maybe you can post ur stuff on a substack or smth idk whatever

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                                • MauritioM
                                  Mauritio @CrumblingCookie
                                  last edited by Mauritio

                                  @CrumblingCookie thanks for sharing.
                                  Isn't that because it's a protease, so in sufficient amounts it would digest the protein/cartilage there ?
                                  I think some people report stomach issues when eating too much papaya/papain but only after some time. Maybe it has a similar effect on the intestines.
                                  Viruses need proteases to multiply, so it could have a pro-viral effect ?

                                  Also anybody: don't eat the seeds. It's touted as an anti-mircrobial, but it also messes with your hormones . I tried it and didn't feel well for 2 days.
                                  It do like papaya and it seemes to help with constipation/cholestasis.
                                  Next I'll try papain.

                                  Dare to think.

                                  My X:
                                  x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                                  • sunsunsunS
                                    sunsunsun @Mauritio
                                    last edited by sunsunsun

                                    this nigga ate a couple papaya seeds and was ill for two days

                                    reminds me of this quote:

                                    All men have a fire that burns inside of them.
                                    For some it's a fierce flame, the sort that burn 3000kcal a day just by existing.
                                    Men with these flames are the true gigachads, the ones who can enjoy life to the fullest. Everything comes free to them, unlimited energy, great looks, physical prowess, big dicks, charisma, innate skill, vigor, optimism, wealth, opportunity of all kinds etc.
                                    These men are what all men want to be, but sadly most never get to experience such a life.

                                    For most men have weak little flames, the ones that burn very frugally. They don't consume much energy which is why they're prone to becoming skinnyfat. Thin little limbs and a big round belly that retains fuel forever since so little is used in a day.
                                    The permanent "survival mode", born out of inner fear. Peasant genetics really. These men will commonly try to better their lives but they find it's a very steep climb. "I'm trying but I just got no energy" they'll say. They're always tired, always feeling ill, always apathetic towards everything.
                                    It's obvious to all bystanders and it instinctively repulses them as lepers do. Women want nothing to do with these hollow husks of men, those who cannot enjoy life.
                                    They're not interested in a smart guy who will live life as efficiently as possible, they want a wild card who isn't afraid of anything. The sort of guy who thinks "New York, sounds like fun!" rather than snorting and citing crime statistics.

                                    Basically, the reason why many women like n****rs is because their flames burn a little stronger than the average civilized man's does.
                                    They're not scared of doing what they like, they're going outside and interacting with the world rather than cooping up indoors and observing life from a safe distance.

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                                    • MauritioM
                                      Mauritio @sunsunsun
                                      last edited by

                                      @sunsunsun my posts aren't super organized. I post some stuff here, some stuff on X, a lot of stuff on both.
                                      But I was thinking about making a substack, because X users don't seem to be willing to read more than 2 sentences.

                                      Dare to think.

                                      My X:
                                      x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                                      • LucHL
                                        LucH @Mauritio
                                        last edited by

                                        @Mauritio said in Random, interesting studies:

                                        But I was thinking about making a substack, because X users don't seem to be willing to read more than 2 sentences.

                                        Ya, when very interesting, I suggest to give a highlight with max 5 lines. Just to see if it's pertinent for the reader.

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                                        • sunsunsunS
                                          sunsunsun @Mauritio
                                          last edited by

                                          @Mauritio yes I will read ur substack preferably over X and it is a lot easier to look up your articles than searching tweets . I look forward to it

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                                            Corngold @sunsunsun
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                                            @sunsunsun said in Random, interesting studies:

                                            They're not scared of doing what they like, they're going outside and interacting with the world rather than cooping up indoors and observing life from a safe distance.

                                            is niggamaxing the new thing!? because wiggers weren't very popular back in the 90s and '00s.

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