Milk is goyslop
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@lykos He did make a distinction. He has very carefully talked about that added synthetic vitamin A, or general added vitamins isn't great. He has said of course brands that use antibiotics are not good. He has said choose carefully and stick to the milk that tastes good and feels good. And the obvious, no added gums or really weird stuff. He wasn't ignorant to the adulterated state of milk. His words were of wisdom and caution. In and of itself milk is great. As a teacher he taught that first and foremost. Second to that followed the reality of manufacturing and the business of it. His general insight is, yes be aware and cautious, but incorporating (the right) milk is better than not.
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@CrumblingCookie Show me one study and I'll show you something wrong with that study.
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@CrumblingCookie "However, the qualities commonly provided are outright appaling and hardly anyone even blinks an eye over this IMO unacceptable state."
I don't disagree with this at all and essentially the primary point is the same. I just think there are decent products to be consumed, even with their own imperfections, it's better than discounting milk in general.
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@bio3nergetic i was drinking 2-3 liters of milk my self and it caused me severe copper deficiency that i ams till recovering from, calcium will imbalance your magnesium, copper and iron, there is no good reason to promote that much milk
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@lykos it's always a matter of context. If you aren't eating a well-rounded diet, a lot of one thing can imbalance something else. That's true for anything, not just milk.
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@bio3nergetic I was eating a well rounded diet and 200g of liver each week, you are making dumb assertions. You simply dont know what you are talking about, @user1 is another victim of milkmaxxing meme.
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@lykos Okay very good, I don't know anything. Enjoy yourself.
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@CrumblingCookie said in Milk is goyslop:
calcium is usually reported to antagonize copper uptake.
We have to make the difference between Ca from food and supplement.
From supplement, if not bound to an amino acid (like glycine) but to gluconate, 40 mg Ca is sufficient to impair absorption of Cu, Fe and Zn (same transport). So, a very low amount.
Ca from food (cheese) should be absorbed (embed) but probably not well if the amount is 400 mg Ca.
And by the way when Ca is bound to phytate, Ca is not free to be absorbed so. Cheese offers highly bioavailable calcium (approx. 40% absorbed) due to its protein-rich matrix. Broccoli also provides high-quality, available calcium (40-50% absorbed). less fine if bound to oxalates.
1/4 Ox / Ca as ratio required, as minimum.
PS: No need to target 1200 mg Ca. There are 3 levels:- 550 mg Ca if you live in the jungle and run all the day long, eat fruits, tubercula's, honey, and antilope
- 850 mg for most people (my target) if you control the acid-base balance.
- 1200 mg if you eat a lot of processed food.
NB: Target Na/K Mg/Ca (1/2 or 1/3) and Ca/P (2.2/1). As long P is not higher than 1.5x, it's OK but not every day.
Note I don't use the ideal ratio for Na/K (to taste). I listen to my body.
No more than 420 mg Mg if problem with Vit D level (under 45 ng/ml) if the other cofactors are fine. We're not talking when in crisis. Higher if I stress (2 or 3 times 300 mg Mg according to nutritionist). After. No anticipation.
- 550 mg Ca if you live in the jungle and run all the day long, eat fruits, tubercula's, honey, and antilope
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@LucH now imagine average peatard consuming 3g of calcium a day, some of peats ideas are really low iq despite him being intelligent.
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Outside of your muddled little mind, this is the only problem you may be having.
https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/the-travis-corner.21611/post-356157
