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    • sunsunsunS Offline
      sunsunsun @sunsunsun
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      @alfredoolivas

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        alfredoolivas @sunsunsun
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        @sunsunsun okay!

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        • LucHL Offline
          LucH @sunsunsun
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          @sunsunsun said:

          thorne is unbuyable now

          Yes, thorne researh has been sold to P&G. If you buy it directly from the factory, a pharmacist or iherb.com, it will be save. Mine come from iherb.com: they buy it directly from the producer. I could develop why P&G is not a problem. They've already done it so with other molecules without changing the process or the ingredients. When we buy Thorne R. we also buy a lable. P&G is well aware of this.
          I won't buy it from a m @ z $ n.

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          • sunsunsunS Offline
            sunsunsun @LucH
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            @LucH an employee of Thorne posted some revelations. I do not reccomend buying from Thorne, and it isn't because "private equity is le bad" , it's because their process / manufacture is now compromised. things like throwing the entire bag of raw material (yes, the actual bag the powder comes in) in the mixer and grinder and fishing out the pieces later because this saves time in manufacturing material for capsules. yes I know it sounds weird and insane but there were pics and evidence that the pics are real posted on 4chan /fit/ board of all places

            secondly they mandated covid vaccines on employees too, it's just a bad company. they were excellent for a time but not anymore

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              LucH @sunsunsun
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              @sunsunsun said:

              yes I know it sounds weird and insane

              Yes, it could be true. Not a proof; not yet the beginning of ... Why? A former employee who's got problems and has been fired. We know all how it begins.
              Now tell me a chemist who's never worked for P&G, and that he says there are problems, I'd change my mind.

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              • Milk DestroyerM Offline
                Milk Destroyer
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                I found the D3 and K2 from larksupply.co to have positive effects and also the owner has amazing customer service skills/actually cares about selling good products.

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                • B Offline
                  bio3nergetic
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                  Why don't we think about the Health Natura controversy rather than hysterics and/or accuse needlessly like the general public does. Their K2 is not "fake."

                  There is a difference between a product with natural factions therein versus a purified product focused on the one nutrient. Factions of natural waxes, flavonoids, and terpenes can be helpful and provide synergistic benefits and mimic how we consume nutrients in nature BUT! this doesn't mean a product that had been purified is suddenly fake. Their K2 is purely K2. THIS is why the color and such changed at the time and the histrionics ensued due to ignorance of this fact.

                  If you want K2 and the factions, look elsewhere. If you are focused on purely K2 then there is nothing wrong with their product.

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                  • sunsunsunS Offline
                    sunsunsun @bio3nergetic
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                    @bio3nergetic no retard I appreciate your logical conversation but you are missing the point entirely

                    they literally sold me fake or HIGHLY underdosed (who knows which, they were never totally clear what the manufacturing issue was) k2 after I got suckered in with their talk of how they are the experts at this

                    I contacted them later, like over a year later, to ask them why it is clear when k2 should be coloured and they were like "lol sorry that batch wasn't produced correctly" I was like ummm ok how about a refund and they were like "since its over a year soz we can't"

                    totally different issue to what you're saying / suggesting . they're shiesty mofos

                    none of what you are blah blah'ing about fractions etc makes sense in this context, they actually ADMITTED to me that the product labelled as k2 they sold me didn't contain k2 due to manufacturing errors. Idk wtf tangent you are going on but it's sidestepping the issue via pilpul.

                    the most egregious part is the big long write-ups they have/had on their website about how much of experts they are and somehow they pulled off releasing bad supplement to the market

                    AGAIN I have to state THEY ADMITTED THEY SOLD FAKE PRODUCT

                    @bio3nergetic no retard I appreciate your logical conversation but you are missing the point entirely

                    they literally sold me fake or HIGHLY underdosed (who knows which, they were never totally clear what the manufacturing issue was) k2 after I got suckered in with their talk of how they are the experts at this

                    I contacted them later, like over a year later, to ask them why it is clear when k2 should be coloured and they were like "lol sorry that batch wasn't produced correctly" I was like ummm ok how about a refund and they were like "since its over a year soz we can't"

                    totally different issue to what you're saying / suggesting . they're shiesty mofos

                    none of what you are blah blah'ing about fractions etc makes sense in this context, they actually ADMITTED to me that the product labelled as k2 they sold me didn't contain the right amount k2 due to manufacturing errors. Idk wtf tangent you are going on but it's sidestepping the issue via pilpul. k2 mk4 is an orange color, idk what you are talking about fractions and other purified parts, when you buy k2 mk4 from sigma Aldrich the powder comes orange. ask haidut. the health natura product was completely clear as if it was just straight mct oil.

                    the most egregious part is the big long write-ups they have/had on their website about how much of experts they are and somehow they pulled off releasing bad supplement to the market

                    AGAIN I have to state THEY ADMITTED THEY SOLD FAKE PRODUCT and then REFUSED ME A REFUND I can literally post the emails

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                    • sunsunsunS Offline
                      sunsunsun @bio3nergetic
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                      @bio3nergetic Screenshot 2026-08-13 at 11.47.36 AM.png Screenshot 2026-08-13 at 11.47.50 AM.png Screenshot 2026-08-13 at 11.48.07 AM.png

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                      • sunsunsunS Offline
                        sunsunsun @sunsunsun
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                        what kind of RETARD supplement company of "Experts" puts out an incorrectly formulated product

                        also:

                        "THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE PRODUCT"

                        while in previous response admitting that there IS IN FACT something wrong with the product

                        you have to be an absolute SUCKER to be taken in by this pilpul bullshit , talking out of two sides of the mouth at once

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                        • sunsunsunS Offline
                          sunsunsun @LucH
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                          @LucH I literally saw the proof including pictures of internal company documents and pictures of their mixers , their supplement processing / manufacturing line. . it's on 4chan's /fit/ if you wanna search on some archive website . please listen to me because you keep side-stepping what im saying. yeah someone could have faked it but ok

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                          • sunsunsunS Offline
                            sunsunsun @sunsunsun
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                            if one more person tries to side-step any of my comments with their pilpul BS I will start spamming the N word (jk)

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                            • B Offline
                              bio3nergetic @sunsunsun
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                              @sunsunsun
                              Ok I know you like to be dramatic, and I am not 100% sure what you are trying to do here but try and calm your peanut brain down a bit. Also, you don't have to say "literally" in conversation about something literal. It is unnecessary and demonstrates true retardation among a generation that don't understand emphasis or know about the simple word "very."

                              We'll go over this one more time. Because regarding your supposed screenshot, I am not really sure what that is nor would I attribute that to an actual conversation. Regarding the content, even if there was a manufacturing error, Dr. Kassner has never treated a customer the way you are describing, and if there was a fault on their part, they would not give you the answer you are showing in your supposed screenshot. The whole thing on your part is suspect.

                              So discounting what you think you are saying here, as at this point is bizarre, K2 absolutely does not have to appear clear. The "blah blah blah" your tiny pea brain can't understand is precisely why it does not always have to be clear, So go back and maybe get a little sippy cup of juice or what have you and try to understand that.

                              As far as the rest of your bullshit story, I don't BELIEVE YOU.

                              Let that sink in for a bit.

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                                sunsunsun @bio3nergetic
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                                @bio3nergetic holy fuck are you calling me a liar? you are one monkey in a suit , come closer let me tie your tie around the ceiling fan and then turn it on. have fun shilling for (((Dr. Kassner))) goy , the fact you think im saying k2 should be clear shows you dont even have the most basic reading ability , that's exactly OPPOSITE of what the issue was with the product

                                mein Gott

                                wait, are you Cindy? I have our emails literally in my gmail account

                                no no you got me im on a mission to falsely disparage some minor supplement company from Texas with fake screenshots of emails . you totally got me haha wow can't believe you figured it out

                                retard

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                                  bio3nergetic @sunsunsun
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                                  No pea brain, what I am telling you is there is nothing OTHER than that matter at hand. Otherwise what you are saying is nonsense and bullshit. There is nothing else to discuss.

                                  @sunsunsun said:

                                  @bio3nergetic holy fuck are you calling me a liar? you are one monkey in a suit , come closer let me tie your tie around the ceiling fan and then turn it on. have fun shilling for (((Dr. Kassner))) goy , the fact you think im saying k2 should be clear shows you dont even have the most basic reading ability , that's exactly OPPOSITE of what the issue was with the product

                                  mein Gott

                                  wait, are you Cindy? I have our emails literally in my gmail account

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                                  • sunsunsunS Offline
                                    sunsunsun @bio3nergetic
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                                    @bio3nergetic you are a certified class A goycattle

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                                      bio3nergetic @sunsunsun
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                                      @sunsunsun said:

                                      @bio3nergetic holy fuck are you calling me a liar? you are one monkey in a suit , come closer let me tie your tie around the ceiling fan and then turn it on. have fun shilling for (((Dr. Kassner))) goy , the fact you think im saying k2 should be clear shows you dont even have the most basic reading ability , that's exactly OPPOSITE of what the issue was with the product

                                      mein Gott

                                      wait, are you Cindy? I have our emails literally in my gmail account

                                      no no you got me im on a mission to falsely disparage some minor supplement company from Texas with fake screenshots of emails . you totally got me haha wow can't believe you figured it out

                                      retard

                                      Good, you admit it.

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                                      • sunsunsunS Offline
                                        sunsunsun @bio3nergetic
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                                        @bio3nergetic what a zinger . I have filed you under the "do goyim really" folder

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                                        • sunsunsunS Offline
                                          sunsunsun @sunsunsun
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                                          @bio3nergetic hey I just fabricated this including Cyndi's picture all in my mission to disparage Dr. Kassner Screenshot 2026-08-13 at 12.09.02 PM.png

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                                          • sunsunsunS Offline
                                            sunsunsun @bio3nergetic
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                                            @bio3nergetic Screenshot 2026-08-13 at 12.09.34 PM.png this is all fake AI generated because im trying to keep Dr. Kassner and Health Natura down for , idk reasons

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