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    • B Offline
      bio3nergetic
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      Why don't we think about the Health Natura controversy rather than hysterics and/or accuse needlessly like the general public does. Their K2 is not "fake."

      There is a difference between a product with natural factions therein versus a purified product focused on the one nutrient. Factions of natural waxes, flavonoids, and terpenes can be helpful and provide synergistic benefits and mimic how we consume nutrients in nature BUT! this doesn't mean a product that had been purified is suddenly fake. Their K2 is purely K2. THIS is why the color and such changed at the time and the histrionics ensued due to ignorance of this fact.

      If you want K2 and the factions, look elsewhere. If you are focused on purely K2 then there is nothing wrong with their product.

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        sunsunsun @bio3nergetic
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        @bio3nergetic no retard I appreciate your logical conversation but you are missing the point entirely

        they literally sold me fake or HIGHLY underdosed (who knows which, they were never totally clear what the manufacturing issue was) k2 after I got suckered in with their talk of how they are the experts at this

        I contacted them later, like over a year later, to ask them why it is clear when k2 should be coloured and they were like "lol sorry that batch wasn't produced correctly" I was like ummm ok how about a refund and they were like "since its over a year soz we can't"

        totally different issue to what you're saying / suggesting . they're shiesty mofos

        none of what you are blah blah'ing about fractions etc makes sense in this context, they actually ADMITTED to me that the product labelled as k2 they sold me didn't contain k2 due to manufacturing errors. Idk wtf tangent you are going on but it's sidestepping the issue via pilpul.

        the most egregious part is the big long write-ups they have/had on their website about how much of experts they are and somehow they pulled off releasing bad supplement to the market

        AGAIN I have to state THEY ADMITTED THEY SOLD FAKE PRODUCT

        @bio3nergetic no retard I appreciate your logical conversation but you are missing the point entirely

        they literally sold me fake or HIGHLY underdosed (who knows which, they were never totally clear what the manufacturing issue was) k2 after I got suckered in with their talk of how they are the experts at this

        I contacted them later, like over a year later, to ask them why it is clear when k2 should be coloured and they were like "lol sorry that batch wasn't produced correctly" I was like ummm ok how about a refund and they were like "since its over a year soz we can't"

        totally different issue to what you're saying / suggesting . they're shiesty mofos

        none of what you are blah blah'ing about fractions etc makes sense in this context, they actually ADMITTED to me that the product labelled as k2 they sold me didn't contain the right amount k2 due to manufacturing errors. Idk wtf tangent you are going on but it's sidestepping the issue via pilpul. k2 mk4 is an orange color, idk what you are talking about fractions and other purified parts, when you buy k2 mk4 from sigma Aldrich the powder comes orange. ask haidut. the health natura product was completely clear as if it was just straight mct oil.

        the most egregious part is the big long write-ups they have/had on their website about how much of experts they are and somehow they pulled off releasing bad supplement to the market

        AGAIN I have to state THEY ADMITTED THEY SOLD FAKE PRODUCT and then REFUSED ME A REFUND I can literally post the emails

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          sunsunsun @bio3nergetic
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          @bio3nergetic Screenshot 2026-08-13 at 11.47.36 AM.png Screenshot 2026-08-13 at 11.47.50 AM.png Screenshot 2026-08-13 at 11.48.07 AM.png

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            sunsunsun @sunsunsun
            last edited by sunsunsun

            what kind of RETARD supplement company of "Experts" puts out an incorrectly formulated product

            also:

            "THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE PRODUCT"

            while in previous response admitting that there IS IN FACT something wrong with the product

            you have to be an absolute SUCKER to be taken in by this pilpul bullshit , talking out of two sides of the mouth at once

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              sunsunsun @LucH
              last edited by sunsunsun

              @LucH I literally saw the proof including pictures of internal company documents and pictures of their mixers , their supplement processing / manufacturing line. . it's on 4chan's /fit/ if you wanna search on some archive website . please listen to me because you keep side-stepping what im saying. yeah someone could have faked it but ok

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                sunsunsun @sunsunsun
                last edited by sunsunsun

                if one more person tries to side-step any of my comments with their pilpul BS I will start spamming the N word (jk)

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                  bio3nergetic @sunsunsun
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                  @sunsunsun
                  Ok I know you like to be dramatic, and I am not 100% sure what you are trying to do here but try and calm your peanut brain down a bit. Also, you don't have to say "literally" in conversation about something literal. It is unnecessary and demonstrates true retardation among a generation that don't understand emphasis or know about the simple word "very."

                  We'll go over this one more time. Because regarding your supposed screenshot, I am not really sure what that is nor would I attribute that to an actual conversation. Regarding the content, even if there was a manufacturing error, Dr. Kassner has never treated a customer the way you are describing, and if there was a fault on their part, they would not give you the answer you are showing in your supposed screenshot. The whole thing on your part is suspect.

                  So discounting what you think you are saying here, as at this point is bizarre, K2 absolutely does not have to appear clear. The "blah blah blah" your tiny pea brain can't understand is precisely why it does not always have to be clear, So go back and maybe get a little sippy cup of juice or what have you and try to understand that.

                  As far as the rest of your bullshit story, I don't BELIEVE YOU.

                  Let that sink in for a bit.

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                    sunsunsun @bio3nergetic
                    last edited by sunsunsun

                    @bio3nergetic holy fuck are you calling me a liar? you are one monkey in a suit , come closer let me tie your tie around the ceiling fan and then turn it on. have fun shilling for (((Dr. Kassner))) goy , the fact you think im saying k2 should be clear shows you dont even have the most basic reading ability , that's exactly OPPOSITE of what the issue was with the product

                    mein Gott

                    wait, are you Cindy? I have our emails literally in my gmail account

                    no no you got me im on a mission to falsely disparage some minor supplement company from Texas with fake screenshots of emails . you totally got me haha wow can't believe you figured it out

                    retard

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                      bio3nergetic @sunsunsun
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                      No pea brain, what I am telling you is there is nothing OTHER than that matter at hand. Otherwise what you are saying is nonsense and bullshit. There is nothing else to discuss.

                      @sunsunsun said:

                      @bio3nergetic holy fuck are you calling me a liar? you are one monkey in a suit , come closer let me tie your tie around the ceiling fan and then turn it on. have fun shilling for (((Dr. Kassner))) goy , the fact you think im saying k2 should be clear shows you dont even have the most basic reading ability , that's exactly OPPOSITE of what the issue was with the product

                      mein Gott

                      wait, are you Cindy? I have our emails literally in my gmail account

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                        sunsunsun @bio3nergetic
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                        @bio3nergetic you are a certified class A goycattle

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                          bio3nergetic @sunsunsun
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                          @sunsunsun said:

                          @bio3nergetic holy fuck are you calling me a liar? you are one monkey in a suit , come closer let me tie your tie around the ceiling fan and then turn it on. have fun shilling for (((Dr. Kassner))) goy , the fact you think im saying k2 should be clear shows you dont even have the most basic reading ability , that's exactly OPPOSITE of what the issue was with the product

                          mein Gott

                          wait, are you Cindy? I have our emails literally in my gmail account

                          no no you got me im on a mission to falsely disparage some minor supplement company from Texas with fake screenshots of emails . you totally got me haha wow can't believe you figured it out

                          retard

                          Good, you admit it.

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                            sunsunsun @bio3nergetic
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                            @bio3nergetic what a zinger . I have filed you under the "do goyim really" folder

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                              sunsunsun @sunsunsun
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                              @bio3nergetic hey I just fabricated this including Cyndi's picture all in my mission to disparage Dr. Kassner Screenshot 2026-08-13 at 12.09.02 PM.png

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                              • sunsunsunS Offline
                                sunsunsun @bio3nergetic
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                                @bio3nergetic Screenshot 2026-08-13 at 12.09.34 PM.png this is all fake AI generated because im trying to keep Dr. Kassner and Health Natura down for , idk reasons

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                                  sunsunsun @sunsunsun
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                                  @bio3nergetic come back and reply retard , I am awaiting your next round of copes

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                                  • sunsunsunS Offline
                                    sunsunsun @bio3nergetic
                                    last edited by

                                    @bio3nergetic said:

                                    K2 absolutely does not have to appear clear. The "blah blah blah" your tiny pea brain can't understand is precisely why it does not always have to be clear, So go back and maybe get a little sippy cup of juice or what have you and try to understand that

                                    can you explain what retard goycattle shit you are trying to say here and then one post later denying that you are trying to say this? when I converse with people here I expect a certain level of lack of dishonest and lack of utter stupidity which you fail to display. id love for you to explain what you really mean here especially since you clarify in the next post you dont mean literally what you said. literally you are so dumb

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                                      sunsunsun @bio3nergetic
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                                      @bio3nergetic you're a piece of shit

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                                      • LucHL Offline
                                        LucH @sunsunsun
                                        last edited by LucH

                                        @sunsunsun said:

                                        I literally saw the proof including pictures of internal company documents and pictures of their mixers , their supplement processing / manufacturing line.

                                        OK, Sunsunsun. I believe you. Not the right way from the seller/ producer to handle a problem. Your explanation about the colour has convinced me that you've got a fake one: less charged in MK4. Probably not due to "bad intentions" but it doesn't change the issue if it was not what you were in right to get.
                                        PS: Bio3 is trying to pull you aside and make you lose your temper ... One more forumer to avoid ...

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                                          bio3nergetic @sunsunsun
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                                          @sunsunsun

                                          Ok pea brain. So tell us which one is it?

                                          Fake K2?
                                          Bad customer service?
                                          Your misapphrension?

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                                          • sunsunsunS Offline
                                            sunsunsun @bio3nergetic
                                            last edited by sunsunsun

                                            @bio3nergetic duhhhh idk maybe read the screenshots and tell me yourself, I am immune to your pilpul

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