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    Haircels Can't Explain Why DHT Doesn't Cause Hairloss But Things Like Proviron Does

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    • lobotomizeL Offline
      lobotomize
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      i have long hair proviron doesnt/didnt affect it. dosages of 10 to 30 mg sublingually

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        A Former User @bio3nergetic
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        @bio3nergetic absolute cinema thank you for that

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          Mossy @bio3nergetic
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          @bio3nergetic said:

          • In an aging, stressed, calcified scalp: Natural DHT accumulates to help, but inadvertently contributes to the downstream shutdown of the follicle. DHT is responding to protect the environment but also creates metabolic demand!

          Seems the Peaty, sugar-based solutions (2-deoxy-D-ribose) may be beneficial in helping to meet this metabolic demand.

          "To desire action is to desire limitation" — G. K. Chesterton
          "The true step of health and improvement is slow." — Novalis

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            jimmynelson
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            Sure I can. Easy. DHT is subject to conversion by 3a/3b-HSD. Proviron is not.

            In my experience, other forms of DHT that are not processed by those enzymes (11-keto-DHT) are also more prone to causing hair loss/shedding.

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              A Former User @jimmynelson
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              @jimmynelson ok maybe fair point. @bio3nergetic up there (which I have a good reason to believe is Danny) acts like taking bio identical dht ITSELF would cause hair loss. (Which I have not noticed anecdotally by others on the internet)

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                jimmynelson @Guest
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                @hcwilliams No. I have had more shedding from test than I have had from exogenous DHT. I presume from the E2 conversion. It's also worse when its compounded in PUFA than when its compounded in MCT, in my experience, which I assume surprises nobody here.

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                  bio3nergetic @Guest
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                  @hcwilliams said:

                  @jimmynelson ok maybe fair point. @bio3nergetic up there (which I have a good reason to believe is Danny) acts like taking bio identical dht ITSELF would cause hair loss. (Which I have not noticed anecdotally by others on the internet)

                  Well, actually your binary, on/off light-switch thinking process shows me you still are not quite grasping the nuance of the situation. It's always about the entire process; always in resultant effects. Hormones are very much a part of that, meaning their production is a part of a chain of contingency. Yes exogenous exerts effects too, yes there is obviously a physiological response; there is demand, etc. But it still isn't that process entirely. I understand you want it all perfectly , black and white, so you get defensive. But that isn't how you are going to get it. And no, this is not Danny.

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                    jimmynelson @bio3nergetic
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                    @bio3nergetic FYI you are being extremely condescending, and have the general air of someone who dramatically overestimates their intelligence. Here's a tip, it's really off-putting and does not effectively convince others of your intelligence. Peat himself suggested a connection with high estrogen or stress hormones and nervous, repetitive, or rambling communication styles.

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                      A Former User @bio3nergetic
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                      @bio3nergetic yea, not sure who you were actually responding to there but you’re response was extremely conceited as jimmy said. I had no ill intention in either my of posts so not sure why you responded as arrogant as you did.

                      Btw I thought you were Danny because I called him out in my first post then in your response you said you had YouTube videos on the matter.

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                        A Former User
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                        And btw which part of my comment sounded defensive?

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