the vitamin A toxicity grift needs to end
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3:30 and on (not the whole stream) he cries about 'Peaters'. This is who that guy Charlie looks up to.
So incredible that they still think we eat carrots for vitamin A but then pretend they get a bunch of 'broken' people flocking to them for help (common lie, that Hans guy said the same), but somehow they don't know the basic ideas we base our choices off of. So it's clearly a LIE! Undeniably, or you would admit that at the very least we think we're not getting much betacarotene.
The lack of hair is one thing as it can just be irrevocable damage from previous lifestyle, but then the EYEBAGS. If my eyes looked like that I would be so alarmed. He's also incredibly pale. I mean I understand people have different journeys so of course attacking this guy on just that basis is not an argument in and of itself, but just compare the way he looks to someone like Danny (who's been consistently basing his diet on Ray's ideas for over 10 years, if not 15, I forget).These people recommend avoiding dairy (!) and suggest instead eating bread, beans, large amounts of muscle meat, and think FRUCTOSE of all things is poisonous. They are deranged.
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Yep, over at RPF this is the 'New' religion, sad to see.
Life is too short to worry about all that, I just buy food with minimal ingredients, i.e. unprocessed and that's the best I can do, a lot of these Nutritionists just make people orthorexic, and they are usually in it to sell you something at the end of the Day. -
Vitamin A isnt toxic, excess dump of vitamin A through animal sources probably is. Why Peat said every time he ate liver, his thyroid went down? Not saying vit A is unnecessary but why not manufacture vit A through beta carotene and carotene cleavage enzymes in the body then dumping preformed retinol through liver, fortified dairy etc? There is 0 proof beta carotene slows down the thyroid(independent of its conversion to retinoic acid), but there IS a lot of proof that retinoic acid does. Vitamin A also increases SCD1 upto 7 times, pretty fucking brutal for those who want to PUFA detox
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@thyroidchor27 take with vit E and D.
…and liver also has a ton of methionine. I have gotten the same reaction from factory poultry. Actually, I did research it at the beginning of the vitamin A toxicity craze, and the animal sources of vitamin A also have a lot more of the inflammatory aminos like tryptophan and methionine. -
@thyroidchor27 when did ray peat say this?
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I know. I know. He's also exhibiting various neurological problems on a regular basis. The chap's so featureless I can see it in a time series of text messages.
And it will. Give it time. This won't end well.
In the meantime, on some level. I hope he publicly denounces and retracts so the harm un to others stops, climbs down of his own accord, resumes a varied diet and reforms his marriage. Which by his own admission ended because of carrot related insubordination. Now I'd say this is unlikely. But these are unlikely times.
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@henkboogaart014 He said something along the lines of "every time I ate it my thyroid went down so I only take it once a week" . I dont remember which interview or maybe it was an email. I have it seared in my memory as I was just begining to question the Vitamin A (retinol from animal sources ie) thing.
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@ThinPicking carrot related insubordination is very serious. It does need to be handled severely and swiftly. I would never stand for it.
Is there any way that Charlie has been made an offer he literally could not refuse? We'll give you this (n = lots) money and you'll step aside. Otherwise, we'll throw you in jail for whatever horseshit we feel like??
Although, he was never a sharp dude.
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@Regina This could have happened to Charlie, LOL
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I've been missing Burtlancast's posts on the RP forum. He hasn't posted anything since October. So I started going through his old posts yesterday for clues and may have learned why. If you're able you should go take a look at his vitamin A comments on the "Low Toxin" posts from a few years ago. Charlie agreed with him back then, and now suddenly he's gone? So I asked Charlie yesterday if he banned Burt. I haven't heard back from him, but Burt made such good points I'm nearly certain that's what happened.
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Oh SNAP!
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Please excuse me for savoring this GOTCHA moment.
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@S-Holmes Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
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I love this new forum. It gives me a place to vent and keeps me out of trouble over on the RP forum
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I'm probably in trouble now.
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@S-Holmes You're done.
What does mr. smith's face tell you? To me he looks terribly ill and it seems like his entire facial structure is melting, his eyes are especially concerning.
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Yes, indications of hypothyroidism in his eyes. His skin is also very pasty, no glow of health. Does anyone know his age?
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@thyroidchor27 i remember ray peat saying that as time went on he only ate the liver once a month instead of once a week due to the vitamin a content, but this doesnt mean that he got hypothyroid everytime he ate it or that vitamin a is always bad to consume. It just means he was eating more than he needed
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I stopped eating liver several years ago. I'm on the fence about using a very small amount of retinol topically, and intuitive eating is what I now practice. No hard and fast dietary restrictions except for seed and nut oils.
