A list of members banned from the Ray Peat Forum
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@questforhealth said in A list of members banned from the Ray Peat Forum:
I’ve always just had insatiable thirst. I think I just drink for the sake of drinking. Like just like the feel of drinking???
Don't worry, this will subside. Just don't forget to replace the fluid with food. Slowly.
I could put myself in this state somewhere inside 48 hours by simply acting in to it. And then remove myself from it in another 48 by acting out of it. Which either way, involves acting against impulse or desire. It's hard to describe.
The body just seems to have all these set points and it's constantly looking for the one that's closest to behaviour, somewhere between the now and not too distant past. And we can sit in them for a very long time if we're distracted or addressing the resulting frames of mind at higher levels.
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I always have horrible impulse control which I believe may be down to copper toxicity, that also would explain for me the racing mind at night as I imagine less active adrenals at night make the copper release into the blood?
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@S-Holmes I’m anti gossip as well but this is not gossip. We’re all here just trying to figure out what the hell happened over there! If her name comes up a lot it’s because she’s been acting like charlie’s handmaiden. She can see clear as day that the mass bannings are undeserved and his behaviour is weird as hell, but she stays silent. Blossom too I might add.
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@questforhealth said in A list of members banned from the Ray Peat Forum:
I always have horrible impulse control which I believe may be down to copper toxicity, that also would explain for me the racing mind at night as I imagine less active adrenals at night make the copper release into the blood?
I don't know enough here. I could tell you more about OSI layers than I could about copper metabolism.
That said. From what I did read around it its handling can be fragile. And more generally, a "toxicity" wouldn't necessarily require a restriction of that thing. It's commonly held that the dose makes the poison. But how can you have a dose without a concentration. If you can manage to get your fluid down and your food up (easy does it). You'll retain more, have more solute dissolved in it and perhaps be more resilient to internal or external toxicological insult.
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@Peatful oh ok. You know it’s bad when you can’t tell truth from fiction with charlie, hahahaha
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@ilovethesea Agreed. What is happening there is just wrong. Anyone can see that.
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I’ll try this and see what happens. Very simple solution. I do still want to go ahead and see if I can test for heavy metals. If anything i’ll rule the problem out.
Come to think of it I can think very clearly after drinking horsetail tea which is a diuretic... Interesting how solutions come when you least expect it.
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@brad Could you move some of the posts here to their rightful place? It's a bit confusing. Thank you muchly!
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@questforhealth
By all means. Any data points you can get are good. Just don't fixate on them in isolation.
And yea it's good that you notice. Many don't seem to. But I guess that's one of the benefits of feeling "unwell". As long as we're committed to self exploration, this is when we can be most aware.
A lot of my personal nooticing's have come from a more retarded-male version of this. Like how could it be that I could feel better on a Saturday morning than I have all week, having just drank like a fish the night before. With a lot of trial, error and erratic reading. I realised there are (somewhat) distinct compartments. And retention in one not the other can be the difference between a good day and a bad day. A diuretic like horsetail tea (or a fifth of whiskey) can reveal.
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@S-Holmes also she thinks this is about vitamin A? The crux of the matter is the forum still being under Ray’s name while they piss on his grave, I’d like to see her comment on that.
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@ilovethesea EXACTLY
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I feel better after drinking too... But I don’t want to do that I’m too young.
Slowly going to get there. Bit difficult with being so exhausted though. But i’ll try commit to low fluids. Maybe I just feel thirsty whenever Im hungry because I’m used to drinking only liquid food which is a bit stupid.
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@questforhealth
I noticed when I get more then 10g of potassium from food daily i dont get thirsty even when drinking like 500 ml to 1L only of fluid daily. -
Hard to get good meat here but I’ll try bananas. Always suspected I was missing some mineral or something.
10g seems insane. I don’t have appetite like that no matter what I do.
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@questforhealth You shouldn't be having too many liquids because you're hypothyroid. Supplementing magnesium bisglycinate can help, but if you wanna avoid supplements (understandable, i have to resort to making my own capsules and even then it's iffy) you should just stick to eating more solid foods. I love dates, cherimoyas, melon for carbs, as well as well-cooked zucchinis. Nothing too complicated.
You have low appetite because you're hypothyroid, and that's the issue to be solved.
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Funnily enough magnesium glycinate with no fillers is the only supplement I tolerate these days. Is it possible low fluids and expelling excess moisture would get my appetite up?
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@questforhealth 10g potassium easy, blackstrap mollasses, goat milk, dark chocolate, potatoes.
I think potassium might be more effective when paired with enough copper, there is a reason most high potassium foods have also some good copper content. -
Interesting. All foods I crave but charlie would have told me to not eat because I’m going to roll over and die.
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@questforhealth said in A list of members banned from the Ray Peat Forum:
Is it possible low fluids and expelling excess moisture would get my appetite up?
Improving thyroid function will get your appetite up.
Considering most of us like to have a bunch of skim milk, coke, juice etc, having relatively low fluids definitely is a good approach in the early stages of improving your metabolism. Definitely don't drink water unless it's the only liquid available.
I take magnesium glycinate in large doses 6 pills of 00 size every night before bed and have done for a long time. I'm on thyroid also, which increases the need for magnesium, but having too little of it can be a part of reducing natural thyroid function too, etc.
I still think if you're prone to overcomplicating things and you have the money it would be smart to turn to consultations, and since I don't know anyone smart enough that has a good bioenergetic, risk-free approach apart from Danny Roddy, that might be a way to go. Not pushing you in that direction, just a reminder that that's an option.
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@questforhealth
Yes, copper is toxic for him but he is also pro potassium? How can you be pro high potassium intake when the high potassium foods have always plenty of copper. 10g of potassium from food makes you average 3-4 mg copper.
