A list of members banned from the Ray Peat Forum
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@questforhealth When you feel like that, the positive aspect is that you likely are not overloaded with stress hormones the moment you wake up.
I would say this state is typical of serotonin being too high.
In your situation with my current experience I would have a solid diet and implement a 1mg dose of cyproheptadine during the afternoon, with a cappuccino, and report back to the forum how that goes. I wouldn't do that more than 3 days in a row just to assess if there's any benefit.
Others might not agree, but I would do this because it's a relatively risk-free (low dose. temporary) way of trying to learn how a potentially helpful tool affects you.
For me to really get better it took 2 plus years and still there's tough days health-wise. Over time you will aggregate information, learn to apply it, learn from your applications and then throug breaking free out of learned helplessness you will exponentially increase the benefits reaped.
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I have tried mirtazapine and it does help me a bit. Unfortunately I overdid it on caffeine a year ago and still haven’t recovered much. Will have to try serotonin antagonists again maybe when I summon the energy to get them.
It wouldn’t surprise me if heavy metals cause problems with my nervous system. I know various things like that can lower dopamine.
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@questforhealth I struggle with being addicted to my phone too. A huge limiter on your health.
I got rid of my smartphone and rocked a genuine nokia brick for a while, but it complicated life a lot.
So I found this Android-based rugged flip phone that has a screen that is way too small to realistically use for scrolling. I try but it just doesn't happen like with a big smartphone. so it works. Spending more time behind laptop but that0s not as bad because I leave that behind when I go to bed.
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@ilovethesea i think the Gatz list wasn’t vetted. More satire to make a point.
However
Thx for posting his YouTube videoI always had a soft spot for him
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@questforhealth said in A list of members banned from the Ray Peat Forum:
It’s been hard to sleep regularly for a while now. I need stimulation from a phone 24/7. Very strange. Slowly improving and funnily enough dopamine agonist drugs like amphetamines helped men with some of my symptoms. But bad brain fog makes it hard to remember what to do say to day and the lack of energy is shocking.
Aside from what I'm about to say, it may also be worth tracking your body weight a few times intraday for a while with some sensitive scales. Whenever, if ever, you can find the energy/order to do that. The slight deviations can tell you what you're holding in fluid compartments and intestinal tract. Along with a scribble or two of behaviour and feeling, and some deliberate changes in pattern. This can be quite revealing.
If there's already a lot of liquid in your diet I think you could really notice the fog lift in a couple of days just by restricting it. Which may involve eating more and/or having each meal a bit earlier than you otherwise would, in opposition to an immediate desire to drink something. That is to say, it may take a couple of days for a thirst to become a hunger. Or a hunger to become a thirst if it's the other way round.
But my suggestion here probably doesn't seem very "Peaty". It might be. I still need to revisit everything he may have said about the assembly of structure.
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@ThinPicking
My behaviours can be lizard like sometimes. Ill just be thirsty and pouring liquid down my neck for no real reason. Always did since a child. No idea why. Very automatic behaviour just same stuff over and over. I heavily suspect mercury toxicity currently.If I take diuretic herbs it just POURS out of me all night long.
It’s a hard situation to deal with. A lot of weird stuff up with me. Whenever I turn the lights of to sleep my thoughts are just racing straight away.
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@ThinPicking Never even weighed myself once and still got massive improvements in my health. Silly. Keep it simple.
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@questforhealth
Aha now we're talking! Restrict! But do it slowly. Your physiology's probably patterned around this.
(Obviously in spite of my enthusiasm I can't be sure, this just rings with me for my own experiences. In my often crazy experiments with fluid balance. All in pursuit of reliably consistent cognitive function.)
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I can certainly try. I’ve always just had insatiable thirst. I think I just drink for the sake of drinking. Like just like the feel of drinking??? Yeah not very clever.
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@questforhealth There's nothing weird or special about the ways in which we get ill. I see this tendency on the other forum a lot. There's barely ever anything crazy and exotic going on in terms of our health.
This was Ray's entire insight, and I suggest trying to solve things with patience and humility. If that's not possible, go consult with Danny Roddy or something and listen to what he has to say, he seems like he would do a good job and it's likely worth the money if you factor in your own productivity. But this endless rabbit holing of new wild and exotic crazy things that are super obscure is a dead end that doesn't have a happy ending.
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Rabbit holing like what heavy metals? I’ve already learnt my lesson about supplements personally. Never buying supplements again unless I get a test and see my test and know I need it.
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@questforhealth said in A list of members banned from the Ray Peat Forum:
I’ve always just had insatiable thirst. I think I just drink for the sake of drinking. Like just like the feel of drinking???
Don't worry, this will subside. Just don't forget to replace the fluid with food. Slowly.
I could put myself in this state somewhere inside 48 hours by simply acting in to it. And then remove myself from it in another 48 by acting out of it. Which either way, involves acting against impulse or desire. It's hard to describe.
The body just seems to have all these set points and it's constantly looking for the one that's closest to behaviour, somewhere between the now and not too distant past. And we can sit in them for a very long time if we're distracted or addressing the resulting frames of mind at higher levels.
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I always have horrible impulse control which I believe may be down to copper toxicity, that also would explain for me the racing mind at night as I imagine less active adrenals at night make the copper release into the blood?
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@S-Holmes I’m anti gossip as well but this is not gossip. We’re all here just trying to figure out what the hell happened over there! If her name comes up a lot it’s because she’s been acting like charlie’s handmaiden. She can see clear as day that the mass bannings are undeserved and his behaviour is weird as hell, but she stays silent. Blossom too I might add.
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@questforhealth said in A list of members banned from the Ray Peat Forum:
I always have horrible impulse control which I believe may be down to copper toxicity, that also would explain for me the racing mind at night as I imagine less active adrenals at night make the copper release into the blood?
I don't know enough here. I could tell you more about OSI layers than I could about copper metabolism.
That said. From what I did read around it its handling can be fragile. And more generally, a "toxicity" wouldn't necessarily require a restriction of that thing. It's commonly held that the dose makes the poison. But how can you have a dose without a concentration. If you can manage to get your fluid down and your food up (easy does it). You'll retain more, have more solute dissolved in it and perhaps be more resilient to internal or external toxicological insult.
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@Peatful oh ok. You know it’s bad when you can’t tell truth from fiction with charlie, hahahaha
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@ilovethesea Agreed. What is happening there is just wrong. Anyone can see that.
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I’ll try this and see what happens. Very simple solution. I do still want to go ahead and see if I can test for heavy metals. If anything i’ll rule the problem out.
Come to think of it I can think very clearly after drinking horsetail tea which is a diuretic... Interesting how solutions come when you least expect it.
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@brad Could you move some of the posts here to their rightful place? It's a bit confusing. Thank you muchly!
