Metabolism: sloth to a dopaminergic child

[pittybitty]

Another thing that I think is often overlooked in regard to light is the intensity of it, our perception of light is logarithmic, something that is 10 times as bright is just 3 "steps" brighter to our eyes. This makes us pretty bad at judging about how much light actually hits our body. An 100 lumen light won't have much effect on our chemical or electric balance, but a 10000 lumen light absolutely will

[basebolt]

A bioenergetic miracle. I went from years of severe sloth to super metabolism perfect feeling. It was from 500 mg niacin for a few days. Then it stopped working. It is my goal to get it back. 95% of people have the in-born ability to achieve this near perfect health, in my opinion.

[Insr]

@pittybitty said in Metabolism: sloth to a dopaminergic child:

@insufferable The blue light thing is really not that complicated. Darkness induces stress, both red and blue light are protective against this stress. Red light causes Triptophan be converted to Melatonin, blue light does the opposite. Melatonin controls the "phase" of your day/night cycle, the further along the night you are the higher your melatonin. It's not that blue light is "bad", it's just that red light is the only way to have the protective effects of light while still maintaining a natural melatonin progression and thus day/night cycle.

Regarding e-ink I think what you are mostly noticing (aside from maybe better sleep) is the psychological, rather than metabolical effects of color. Internet constantly demands your attention, in part through the use of color and movement, if more of those elements get eliminated you will be less distracted by it.

That's interesting about blue vs red light effects, thanks.

I want to stay firmly in the holistic with the screen thing though. Looking into a lit up computer screen is just a totally different thing than looking at physical ink on paper or looking at the sky or trees or whatever. For example, you could switch your screen's LED backlight with a red light panel and stare into your bright red screen all day, and I think you would feel almost as bad as the normal screen makes you feel.

I agree that internet distraction is bad but I've done long days on my LCD working with text only (almost all black and white) with very little distracting internet browsing, and still felt super drained at the end. But on my E-Ink device, I can even watch videos and click around, and still feel very good at the end of the day.

So I feel something like this:

dopamine depletion levels:
level 10 - aimless clicking around on an LCD
level 8 - reading a book offline on an LCD
level 1 - aimless clicking around on E-Ink
level 0 - reading a book on E-Ink

[Creuset]

@insufferable said in Metabolism: sloth to a dopaminergic child:

I agree that internet distraction is bad but I've done long days on my LCD working with text only (almost all black and white) with very little distracting internet browsing, and still felt super drained at the end. But on my E-Ink device, I can even watch videos and click around, and still feel very good at the end of the day.

Have you ever tried used an app like f.lux to reduce the blue light emitted by your screen? Would be interested to know if you would feel the same as when using your E-ink screen.

[Insr]

@Creuset said in Metabolism: sloth to a dopaminergic child:

@insufferable said in Metabolism: sloth to a dopaminergic child:

I agree that internet distraction is bad but I've done long days on my LCD working with text only (almost all black and white) with very little distracting internet browsing, and still felt super drained at the end. But on my E-Ink device, I can even watch videos and click around, and still feel very good at the end of the day.

Have you ever tried used an app like f.lux to reduce the blue light emitted by your screen? Would be interested to know if you would feel the same as when using your E-ink screen.

That would be a good experiment. I've never tried leaving flux on all day. I used to have it set on max in the evenings and it certainly works very well for allowing sleepiness to occur at the appropriate time. I'll try a full day on LCD but with maxxed flux the whole time and report back.

[Comstock]

@insufferable said in Metabolism: sloth to a dopaminergic child:

I have a Dasung Paperlike. It pretty much looks like old time black and white newspapers I guess. 99% of the time I feel no desire to turn on my LCD monitor.

Can you watch videos on it?

[A Former User]

Can someone help me out im shitting 5-6 times a day this is just getting stupid now? Is this bad? I feel good but it seems a bit overkill?

Im starting to wonder if more plant based is better and maybe add in gelatinous cuts of meat slowly some time in the future because im dealing with inflammation from red meat and milk

Strongest I have ever been has been eating plant based.

Im thinking to start with potatoes for low inflammatory amino acids and some BCAA??? As well as good nutrients and minerals if grown in good soil.. Then add some cocoa butter or coconut oil. and so on. Like an elimination diet but mostly plants but I'd eat meat if I craved it. Definitely need more potatoes as of now though. Potatoes are magic

[Chud]

@zaaku said in Metabolism: sloth to a dopaminergic child:

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this guy is a total fag and his music is shit but im so jealous of his hair fuckkkk

[Insr]

@Comstock Yeah! My paperlike 3 is good enough for any video I've watched. I don't really notice the lower frame rate. Displaying videos wears it out faster apparently, but I think that's over the course of years.

[Insr]

@insufferable said in Metabolism: sloth to a dopaminergic child:

@Creuset said in Metabolism: sloth to a dopaminergic child:

@insufferable said in Metabolism: sloth to a dopaminergic child:

I agree that internet distraction is bad but I've done long days on my LCD working with text only (almost all black and white) with very little distracting internet browsing, and still felt super drained at the end. But on my E-Ink device, I can even watch videos and click around, and still feel very good at the end of the day.

Have you ever tried used an app like f.lux to reduce the blue light emitted by your screen? Would be interested to know if you would feel the same as when using your E-ink screen.

That would be a good experiment. I've never tried leaving flux on all day. I used to have it set on max in the evenings and it certainly works very well for allowing sleepiness to occur at the appropriate time. I'll try a full day on LCD but with maxxed flux the whole time and report back.

I was on my LCD all morning (about 5 hours) with flux at 1200K (so red that blues don't really display) Throughout I was sitting by my window and periodically looking at the daylight, as usual. So the screen was the only difference.

• I noticed my eyes feeling not too great after about 15 minutes
• To think about something, I had to kind of take a moment to bring it into my brain, especially true while i was looking at the screen. I would say i had and have some mild brain fog.
• I was more lazy and found myself having kind of browsed through text documents for an hour instead of truly being productive and just doing the stuff to be done.
• I do feel tired and a bit burnt out.
• My eyesight is now a bit blurrier
• Even an hour afterwards, including with time spent outside, I was a bit forgetful and made some cognitive errors (walking to the wrong place to get something)
• However, though I do feel brain fog, I would say i feel less brain fog than i did back when i used to look at the non-flux LCD screen. So either flux does help somewhat or I'm kind of "stocked up" on dopamine from all my e-ink usage.
• Also with flux I don't feel immediately visually "assaulted" by the screen's light the way i do when i look into a non-flux screen blasting light at me.

So an LCD with flux on and maxed out feels better than an LCD without flux, but not as good as E-Ink.

[Kilgore]

@questforhealth said in Metabolism: sloth to a dopaminergic child:

Can someone help me out im shitting 5-6 times a day this is just getting stupid now? Is this bad? I feel good but it seems a bit overkill?

Yes, thats bad but what do you actually eat?
Definitely should add potatoes.

[A Former User]

@Kilgore

I've been eating lots of fruits, apples, kiwi, banana, potatoes, sorghum porridge and rabbit meat, mutton, bone broth etc... Also gelatin sometimes and decaf coffee. also organs from sheep

[Comstock]

@insufferable Nice!

Love your testosterone charts btw.

[Insr]

@Comstock said in Metabolism: sloth to a dopaminergic child:

@insufferable Nice!

Love your testosterone charts btw.

Thanks!

[Mauritio]

@insufferable said in Metabolism: sloth to a dopaminergic child:

@insufferable said in Metabolism: sloth to a dopaminergic child:

@Creuset said in Metabolism: sloth to a dopaminergic child:

@insufferable said in Metabolism: sloth to a dopaminergic child:

I agree that internet distraction is bad but I've done long days on my LCD working with text only (almost all black and white) with very little distracting internet browsing, and still felt super drained at the end. But on my E-Ink device, I can even watch videos and click around, and still feel very good at the end of the day.

Have you ever tried used an app like f.lux to reduce the blue light emitted by your screen? Would be interested to know if you would feel the same as when using your E-ink screen.

That would be a good experiment. I've never tried leaving flux on all day. I used to have it set on max in the evenings and it certainly works very well for allowing sleepiness to occur at the appropriate time. I'll try a full day on LCD but with maxxed flux the whole time and report back.

I was on my LCD all morning (about 5 hours) with flux at 1200K (so red that blues don't really display) Throughout I was sitting by my window and periodically looking at the daylight, as usual. So the screen was the only difference.

• I noticed my eyes feeling not too great after about 15 minutes
• To think about something, I had to kind of take a moment to bring it into my brain, especially true while i was looking at the screen. I would say i had and have some mild brain fog.
• I was more lazy and found myself having kind of browsed through text documents for an hour instead of truly being productive and just doing the stuff to be done.
• I do feel tired and a bit burnt out.
• My eyesight is now a bit blurrier
• Even an hour afterwards, including with time spent outside, I was a bit forgetful and made some cognitive errors (walking to the wrong place to get something)
• However, though I do feel brain fog, I would say i feel less brain fog than i did back when i used to look at the non-flux LCD screen. So either flux does help somewhat or I'm kind of "stocked up" on dopamine from all my e-ink usage.
• Also with flux I don't feel immediately visually "assaulted" by the screen's light the way i do when i look into a non-flux screen blasting light at me.

So an LCD with flux on and maxed out feels better than an LCD without flux, but not as good as E-Ink.

Interesting. Do E-ink devices emit less EMF?

[A Former User]

Holy shit I think I'm about to make it to a healthy metabolism... I'm almost there... Just waiting for my grass fed livers next week

I feel surges of energy through my body if I focus my attention on my energy???

[Mauritio]

Update:
Mostly inspired by this thread I have bought an E-Ink tablet . The Boox note air 4c.

I had to become a mini expert on e inks but I think I made the right decision.

I've even using it for over a month and I like it so far. It's less taxing on the eyes.
And most importantly it doesn't feel weirdly stimulating, ADHD-inducing like LCD displays. It doesn't stress me as much.

There is still a little EMF:
On the front the values go up to 0.5uT averaging 0.1-0.3 uT.
On the back there is close to zero or zero measurable EMF, so if you touch it on the back you can reduce EMF exposure.

I can't use if for working I think it's too small for that. Typing also takes longer. So I'm using mostly the stylus to literally write what I want to post, which is fine. I'm also using text to speech which works surprisingly well. Still if I need to be quick, I don't use my E-Ink I go for my laptop or phone. If I only read, research do little typing it's a very good device.

Watching videos on it works as well and also feels less stimulating than on other devices.

[Corngold]

@zaaku yes and I think slow metabolism is also slow mental processing.

[zaaku]

@Corngold Awesome. What worked for you?

[Corngold]

@zaaku caffeine/coffee WITH sugar and milk, more fruit, less pufa, potatoes, sugar. I use aspirin when needed but don't want to over do it.