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Metabolism: sloth to a dopaminergic child

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    zaaku
    last edited by Mar 9, 2024, 9:27 AM

    Who here has truly gone from a sloth-like metabolism to a constantly-neuron-firing-dopaminergic-child metabolism? Is it realistic to expect to go from a Lex Fridmanesque taking 10 seconds to think of a word and speaking in a monotone boring low-energy way to a Jacob Collieresque creative infinity syndrome always looking like he just got struck by lightning type metabolic energy?

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      A Former User
      last edited by Mar 9, 2024, 11:00 AM

      You know what man. I might actually be about to. Not joking. I have been seeing massive gains recently. If it happens I’ll post here again.

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        BeamsOfEnergy @A Former User
        last edited by Mar 9, 2024, 11:32 AM

        @questforhealth can you say a little about what you are doing?

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          A Former User @BeamsOfEnergy
          last edited by A Former User Mar 9, 2024, 12:10 PM Mar 9, 2024, 12:00 PM

          @BeamsOfEnergy

          Animal organs, some muscle meat or sausages (or haggis which is made from sheep lamb, heart and liver)sugar (jam from forest fruit, apple purée, honey, apples, kiwi and banana), berry tea and some carbs sometimes from rice or potato but rarely and small portions, unless it’s the Dr Peat corn tortillas which I can eat more of somehow. Also dairy from sheep and goats but apparently sheep has too much pufa. Gelatin but not got any as of now. Sometimes some vegetables. Decaf coffee. Pumpkins or squash too. Cucumbers.

          Oh! Also butter and beef tallow.

          Supplement wise just B vitamins I felt I was deficient in and also selenium and glutathione. If you’ve ever been vaccinated you need selenium so that means supplements or eat kidneys. Also noticing a big improvement from iron which might be worth testing if you have anemia symptoms. I didn’t realise I could be anemic. Also taking agmatine which is to do with the vaccination thing. Vit D because britain.

          If there’s anything else you want to know ask me idk.. Eating picked squash now and you’d think squash what a joke but I think it has magnesium or something and they make my feet a bit less cold.

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            Insr
            last edited by Insr Mar 9, 2024, 12:25 PM Mar 9, 2024, 12:23 PM

            Yes, although it was a return to the way i was originally before developing the sloth state.

            I don't think diet had much to do with it. It was psychology and computer use.

            Constant computer use changed me from dopaminergic to a bit of a shut-in. Fixing that got me back to 80% status. Since then I've been at 80% for a while.

            But recently I switched my LCD screen with an E-Ink screen, and that's got me back to 100% (the way I was as a kid)

            The light from computer screens kills your dopamine neurons, or something like that. E-Ink emits no light. (Kindles are E-Ink) I've posted about it a lot because it's had a really big impact for me.

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              zaaku @A Former User
              last edited by Mar 10, 2024, 8:26 AM

              @questforhealth Thanks for sharing. How long have you been doing these?

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                zaaku @Insr
                last edited by Mar 10, 2024, 8:38 AM

                @insufferable Mindset definitely has a big impact on perceived energy levels. Which E-Ink monitor do you use? Is it good enough to replace an LED one?

                Not sure if I philosophically agree with the effect on blue light from screens causing such a big problem. I can think of examples of programmers who spend north of 10 hours a day in front of a screen and have pretty high dopaminergic metabolisms. Taking George Hotz as an example – he has really long live streams doing complex high energy requirement work with little to no perceptive difference in energy which I find amazing.

                It's probably one of those things that affects everyone at a different level and may be worth a try for me too.

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                  A Former User @zaaku
                  last edited by Mar 10, 2024, 9:22 AM

                  @zaaku

                  Since maybe November time. I just crashed hard today after having some weird manic energy yesterday. But its moving the right way. I get bouts of euphoria sometimes.

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                    BeamsOfEnergy @A Former User
                    last edited by Mar 10, 2024, 8:18 PM

                    @questforhealth Thanks that's great. Well done

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                      Insr @zaaku
                      last edited by Insr Mar 11, 2024, 12:14 PM Mar 11, 2024, 12:09 PM

                      @zaaku I don't want to limit it to blue light (which has always felt like a meme to me) I don't know exactly what part of the computer screen light is so bad. But it's a new, unnatural, and prolonged stimulus, taken as a whole.

                      I don't know george hotz but the stereotypical computer guy doesn't seem right at all to me. Yeah there's insane energy towards the programming but what about stuff off the computer? In many cases they struggle don't they? What does it mean if you can think out code logic super well but can't think of the right word in conversation?

                      I have a Dasung Paperlike. It pretty much looks like old time black and white newspapers I guess. 99% of the time I feel no desire to turn on my LCD monitor.

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                        Insr @Insr
                        last edited by Insr Mar 11, 2024, 12:16 PM Mar 11, 2024, 12:15 PM

                        @insufferable

                        Provocative Statement: I think the healthier my mind, the worse i would be at computer programming.

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                          A Former User @Insr
                          last edited by Mar 11, 2024, 3:32 PM

                          @insufferable

                          I spent too much time on the internet for years.... Lots of serotonin overloaded people. Bit sad reallly...

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                            A Former User
                            last edited by Mar 11, 2024, 4:43 PM

                            Now sat under 3 blankets feeling like I could boil an egg between my legs

                            Unfortunately still anemic so low energy as hell and can’t exert myself too much

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                              A Former User
                              last edited by A Former User Mar 12, 2024, 6:53 AM Mar 12, 2024, 6:52 AM

                              This is getting a bit out of hand, I feel like a nuclear reactor doing nothing and need to eat like 2kg of potatoes a day with organs and eggs and jam but feel good..

                              Once I fix the anemia and stop feeling like i’m choking in my own body from just walking I’ll update again

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                                zaaku @BeamsOfEnergy
                                last edited by zaaku Mar 12, 2024, 8:38 AM Mar 12, 2024, 8:16 AM

                                @BeamsOfEnergy I don't think things can be looked at in isolation like that. I doubt a person with a failing energy metabolism, unable to converse with good energy, would be good at programming uniquely. Programming is after-all just talking to a computer in a language the computer understands. Might be reductionist but if you're good at a spoken language, you're likely good at programming too.

                                John Carmack is another example of a high-output programmer who has a high metabolism too fueled by 9 cokes a day.

                                Consumption vs creation seems to be the main distinction causing the low energy metabolism in my opinion. Excessive consumption leads to high serotonin I think which starts the cascade of hibernation vs creation being a dopaminergic activity. If computers are a bicycle for the mind, then they essentially act as a force multiplier for your habits.

                                In my health journey, I've gone from being unable to do mental work for 5 minutes without a stress reaction to being able to work 2 hours at a stretch before needing a snack. I think working on a computer (coding, making music, designing etc) is really energy intensive. Combined with poor nutrition it just completely obliterates a person's health.

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                                  zaaku @A Former User
                                  last edited by Mar 12, 2024, 8:32 AM

                                  @questforhealth The only thing I miss about a low metabolism is not having to eat so damn much all the time. Life was simpler. I've just started feeling like a super fast well-oiled high energy machine. On a scale of 1 to 10, if my metabolism was at 1 or 2 before I started peating, it's at a 4 or 5 after a year and I already feel indescribably better. I'm wondering how much better it can really get. Can it reach Jacob Collier levels? Let's see!

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                                    A Former User @zaaku
                                    last edited by Mar 12, 2024, 9:59 AM

                                    @zaaku

                                    Of course it can reach those levels.

                                    Once I fix my anemia and get my dopamine up then I can get testosterone and dht up and the real magic happens.. I KNOW it will happen, there is no stopping this train now.

                                    I’ll maybe make a video if anything.. we will see

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                                      A Former User @A Former User
                                      last edited by Mar 12, 2024, 10:08 AM

                                      @questforhealth

                                      Also wondering about DHT vs T but i’m not a a level of health where i can become more masculine, HOWEVER it seems all fruits and veg block DHT, after all we all know the stereotype of the ‘meat and potatoes’ vs someone who eats fruit... We will see

                                      Maybe as i’m young and still developing i should just do no fibre, potatoes, organs, meat, butter and beef tallow diet... Surely dht needs to be high for proper development along with thyroid

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                                        Insr @zaaku
                                        last edited by Insr Mar 15, 2024, 12:07 PM Mar 15, 2024, 12:05 PM

                                        @zaaku Good points. I like the idea that computer use is super energy intensive and if you don't nutritionally support yourself, you'll do poorly. That makes sense to me. From my e-ink experience, I do believe it's the LCD screen that's burning through your brain energy like that. I don't feel tired at all after a full day on E-Ink. I definitely felt tired and frazzled after a full day on my LCD.

                                        It reminds me of how people with concussions sometimes become unable to use LCD screens due to instantly getting migraines from them. Implies that a non-concussed person's brain is constantly doing Something when looking at a screen, and when that unknown Something isn't being done due to a damaged brain, you instantly get a migraine. Whatever that thing is, it's going to take energy.

                                        Maybe it's like looking at a paper through intentionally cross-eyed lenses so your eyes are always working to resolve the image - wouldn't you get a headache after 20 minutes of that? And someone with damage to the eye controlling region of the brain might be unable to resolve the image and might get a headache in seconds.

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                                          pittybitty @Insr
                                          last edited by pittybitty Mar 15, 2024, 5:58 PM Mar 15, 2024, 5:53 PM

                                          @insufferable The blue light thing is really not that complicated. Darkness induces stress, both red and blue light are protective against this stress. Red light causes Triptophan be converted to Melatonin, blue light does the opposite. Melatonin controls the "phase" of your day/night cycle, the further along the night you are the higher your melatonin. It's not that blue light is "bad", it's just that red light is the only way to have the protective effects of light while still maintaining a natural melatonin progression and thus day/night cycle.

                                          Regarding e-ink I think what you are mostly noticing (aside from maybe better sleep) is the psychological, rather than metabolical effects of color. Internet constantly demands your attention, in part through the use of color and movement, if more of those elements get eliminated you will be less distracted by it.

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