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    OliverCloasov
    last edited by Jul 2, 2024, 3:37 PM

    I had this issue for an entire year, but it's (seemingly) resolved for the past 8mo or so.
    What helped me:

    • no caffeine past 2pm, ever
    • no cigarettes past 7pm (still working on quitting)
    • blue light filter on computer (flux for windows) and phone, linked to sunrise/sunset
    • going outside in bright sun several times a day, most importantly in the early morning
    • 1 hour walk with ankle weights after dinner 5:30ish
    • 300mg GABA + 1/4 tsp glycine + Mg once the sun has set. 1:2 OJ:seltzer afterwards, avoiding eating anything but a bit of fruit (if that)
    • no video games, tv shows or otherwise stimulating activities within 2 hours before bed
    • 10 min spurts of bodyweight exercise throughout the day
    • no heavy proteins withing 4 hours of when I aim to go to bed (especially animal protein)
    • turning off Wi-Fi in the house at night
    • sleep area clear of E fields from appliances, tvs, etc
    • phone airplane mode at night
    • changed my house lights to warm white, avoiding daylight bulbs like the plague
    • rgb room light at night so I can transition room lighting from golden yellow at sundown to red after sunset
    • reading a book an hour before bed
    • using blackout curtains or equivalent to prevent the light from the stupid blue LED Street lamps coming in
    • ensuring there are no little lights from any devices, monitors, computers, etc glowing in my sleep room

    There might be a few more things involved, but this is what I've come to realize made a difference in concert

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      S.Holmes @OliverCloasov
      last edited by S.Holmes Jul 2, 2024, 4:44 PM Jul 2, 2024, 4:41 PM

      You can try doxylamine succinate (an antihistamine, also known as Sleep Aid) at bedtime to help with a reset. Also some hot cocoa sweetened with sugar (or better dextrose). These always work for me.

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        Insomniac @OliverCloasov
        last edited by Insomniac Jul 2, 2024, 8:21 PM Jul 2, 2024, 8:16 PM

        @OliverCloasov To sleep like Oliver you must become Olive...lol
        That's a long slog my friend.

        Thanks for posting some good ideas. I need to work on my sleep hygiene. That's the thing a lot of people like me overlook.

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          Insomniac @S.Holmes
          last edited by Insomniac Jul 2, 2024, 8:39 PM Jul 2, 2024, 8:23 PM

          @S-Holmes said in Sleep Issues - Please Help:

          You can try doxylamine succinate (an antihistamine, also known as Sleep Aid) at bedtime to help with a reset. Also some hot cocoa sweetened with sugar (or better dextrose). These always work for me.

          Doxy works real well for a while but I always adapt and it stops working. It's one of the few drugs that I would also recommend. Thanks for the suggestions

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            OliverCloasov @Insomniac
            last edited by Jul 2, 2024, 9:06 PM

            @Insomniac Happy to share 😀

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              herayclitus @_K
              last edited by Jul 2, 2024, 10:44 PM

              @_K Have you tried cyproheptadine? It can have a very potent sedative effect, especially when taken a few hours before bed

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                Insomniac @herayclitus
                last edited by Jul 2, 2024, 11:12 PM

                @herayclitus said in Sleep Issues - Please Help:

                @_K Have you tried cyproheptadine? It can have a very potent sedative effect, especially when taken a few hours before bed

                No I haven't. I was going to but I read on the raypeatforum that people thought doxylamine was very similar. It's worth a try. It's a shame it isn't over the counter like some other countries. Thanks for the recommendation.

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                  herayclitus @Insomniac
                  last edited by Jul 3, 2024, 5:30 AM

                  @Insomniac Yeah it's definitely stronger than doxylamine in my experience, the downside is you can become resistant to it pretty fast unfortunately. The IdeaLabs cyproheptadine works pretty well I think

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                    Insomniac @herayclitus
                    last edited by Jul 3, 2024, 4:34 PM

                    @herayclitus Do you take brakes? How do you keep it working?

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                      herayclitus @Insomniac
                      last edited by Jul 3, 2024, 6:59 PM

                      @Insomniac Yes, it's best to cycle on/off every few weeks and stick to the lowest effective dosage. I usually do 2-5mg maximum

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