Dht, testosterone pre workout...
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Would taking some or both of either testosterone or dht before working out help with gym performance? Interested if anyone has tried. Thanks
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Ive tried mesterolone/ proviron and some transdermal T before. Mesterolone certainly helps (and DHT freebase should prolly be even better) , with T I didnt notice much (and I tried it multiple times ) - maybe a slight mood lift. I find bromocriptine and low dose ephedra to help more in gym perfomance.
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@thyroidchor27 thanks what kind of doses were you taking?
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@BeamsOfEnergy proviron around 20 mg and transderaml T 10 mg (although i think only 50 percent would have got absorbed). The proviron honeymoon period lasts two days but I find it either tanks my SHBG or E and i feel off after the first two days. With T its much more manageable provided you dont go over the 5 mg mark (some can handle 10 mg but after that I think its suppresive and starts aromatising)
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@thyroidchor27 Where did you get the T
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@BeamsOfEnergy First, if you're male, get tested to see if you are hypogonadal. If so, find a clinic or pharmacy to get your testosterone replaced. If you're not hypogonadal, then you can raise your anabolic hormone levels with sunlight, protein, lifting (more muscle mass) and so on.
You need to return to baseline before experimenting with stanolone and oral testosterone powders.
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@Serotoninskeptic indiamart. goes by cernos or androgel. comes in 50 mg sachets cost a bit over a dollar each. i apply 10 mg under the armpits and get a nice smooth classic high T effects lasting 6 hours (although takes about an hour to come on). I take aspirin, iodine and chew nicotine while on it to prevent aromatisation. Would like to apply on scrotum but its ethanol solvent and burns. Be sure to be already healthy when you take it tho, any stress/ sleep deprivation etc. it becomes more estrogenic (i take theanine as well beforehand to drop cortisol).
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@BeamsOfEnergy a teaspoon of baking soda is the best pre-workout I've ever tried
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5-10mg dbol. max euphoria
I have a feeling cyproheptadine with coffee would be good as well
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@sneedful you take dbol alone? any thoughts on anavar same dose ?
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@thyroidchor27 The proviron and the T should harmonize really well, was this your plan with that protocol
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@onliest Yeah instant strenght beastin. Also makes working out alot healthier so big double win
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@Uncover yeah but i might do anavar instead of proviron. Proviron crushes my shbg too quickly , i think anavar is prolly better (also a bit more hair safe i think) and some people even do anavar only cycles at low dose for 4-6 weeks. I will prolly have some T gel on hand tho incase estrogen gets driven too low
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@thyroidchor27 DHT dont cause hairloss if you make sure to have low enough estrogen and stress at the same time all the while eating enough carbs and good nutrition. In that case DHT would increase your hairgrowth above that enviroments baseline hairgrowth without DHT. Balding men do not have high dht on avarage. They just have a enviroment that makes their DHT switch role in the hair follicle. This is my interpretation but it fits into what we can observe both in real life and in studies more than the other arguments. The fact the avarage balding man does not have high DHT is something pretty much all the research I have seen shows.
Yeah I tried anavar but something I dislike is how majority of even reputable underground labs underdose Anavar. I heard that pharma grade Anavar is insanely potent. That would make sense since its almost metabolize resistent. I will try to get my hands on pharma grade someday to see how it feels
I agree Proviron is perhaps too potent at lowering SHBG. Sucks cause it increases dhea ALOOOT without increasing estrogen so it feels really good and I like
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@Uncover yea the honeymoon period w proviron lasts 2 days for me then quickly becomes bad, i become flat, no libido etc. Although i used low doses (20 mg) i didnt run w a test base so theres that. Im considering dbol as well, apparently it doesnt need test base comparitively
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DHT dont cause hairloss if you make sure to have low enough estrogen and stress at the same time all the while eating enough carbs and good nutrition. In that case DHT would increase your hairgrowth above that enviroments baseline hairgrowth without DHT. Balding men do not have high dht on avarage. They just have a enviroment that makes their DHT switch role in the hair follicle. This is my interpretation but it fits into what we can observe both in real life and in studies more than the other arguments. The fact the avarage balding man does not have high DHT is something pretty much all the research I have seen shows.
@Uncover That's the best explanation ive seen, im gonna send it to anyone who asks me about dht and balding from now lol.
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Chiming in on the thread, and wanted to say DHT is amazing preworkout. If you're going for a pr, you WILL get it, If you're not, you'll be suprised how easy the weights move and still hit a pr. It gives you increased stamina and better neuromuscular coordination, more primed nervous system.
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@pannacottas ever stack dht with progesterone?