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    • serotoninskepticS
      serotoninskeptic @thyroidchor27
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      @thyroidchor27 Where did you get the T

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        A Former User @BeamsOfEnergy
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        @BeamsOfEnergy First, if you're male, get tested to see if you are hypogonadal. If so, find a clinic or pharmacy to get your testosterone replaced. If you're not hypogonadal, then you can raise your anabolic hormone levels with sunlight, protein, lifting (more muscle mass) and so on.

        You need to return to baseline before experimenting with stanolone and oral testosterone powders.

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        • thyroidchor27T
          thyroidchor27 @serotoninskeptic
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          @Serotoninskeptic indiamart. goes by cernos or androgel. comes in 50 mg sachets cost a bit over a dollar each. i apply 10 mg under the armpits and get a nice smooth classic high T effects lasting 6 hours (although takes about an hour to come on). I take aspirin, iodine and chew nicotine while on it to prevent aromatisation. Would like to apply on scrotum but its ethanol solvent and burns. Be sure to be already healthy when you take it tho, any stress/ sleep deprivation etc. it becomes more estrogenic (i take theanine as well beforehand to drop cortisol).

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          • serotoninskepticS
            serotoninskeptic @thyroidchor27
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            @thyroidchor27 Ty

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            • onliestO
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              @BeamsOfEnergy a teaspoon of baking soda is the best pre-workout I've ever tried

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                A Former User @onliest
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                5-10mg dbol. max euphoria

                I have a feeling cyproheptadine with coffee would be good as well

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                • thyroidchor27T
                  thyroidchor27 @A Former User
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                  @sneedful you take dbol alone? any thoughts on anavar same dose ?

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                  • UncoverU
                    Uncover @thyroidchor27
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                    @thyroidchor27 The proviron and the T should harmonize really well, was this your plan with that protocol

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                      Uncover @onliest
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                      @onliest Yeah instant strenght beastin. Also makes working out alot healthier so big double win

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                      • thyroidchor27T
                        thyroidchor27 @Uncover
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                        @Uncover yeah but i might do anavar instead of proviron. Proviron crushes my shbg too quickly , i think anavar is prolly better (also a bit more hair safe i think) and some people even do anavar only cycles at low dose for 4-6 weeks. I will prolly have some T gel on hand tho incase estrogen gets driven too low

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                        • UncoverU
                          Uncover @thyroidchor27
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                          @thyroidchor27 DHT dont cause hairloss if you make sure to have low enough estrogen and stress at the same time all the while eating enough carbs and good nutrition. In that case DHT would increase your hairgrowth above that enviroments baseline hairgrowth without DHT. Balding men do not have high dht on avarage. They just have a enviroment that makes their DHT switch role in the hair follicle. This is my interpretation but it fits into what we can observe both in real life and in studies more than the other arguments. The fact the avarage balding man does not have high DHT is something pretty much all the research I have seen shows.

                          Yeah I tried anavar but something I dislike is how majority of even reputable underground labs underdose Anavar. I heard that pharma grade Anavar is insanely potent. That would make sense since its almost metabolize resistent. I will try to get my hands on pharma grade someday to see how it feels

                          I agree Proviron is perhaps too potent at lowering SHBG. Sucks cause it increases dhea ALOOOT without increasing estrogen so it feels really good and I like

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                          • thyroidchor27T
                            thyroidchor27 @Uncover
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                            @Uncover yea the honeymoon period w proviron lasts 2 days for me then quickly becomes bad, i become flat, no libido etc. Although i used low doses (20 mg) i didnt run w a test base so theres that. Im considering dbol as well, apparently it doesnt need test base comparitively

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                            • pannacottasP
                              pannacottas @Uncover
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                              DHT dont cause hairloss if you make sure to have low enough estrogen and stress at the same time all the while eating enough carbs and good nutrition. In that case DHT would increase your hairgrowth above that enviroments baseline hairgrowth without DHT. Balding men do not have high dht on avarage. They just have a enviroment that makes their DHT switch role in the hair follicle. This is my interpretation but it fits into what we can observe both in real life and in studies more than the other arguments. The fact the avarage balding man does not have high DHT is something pretty much all the research I have seen shows.

                              @Uncover That's the best explanation ive seen, im gonna send it to anyone who asks me about dht and balding from now lol.

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                              • pannacottasP
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                                Chiming in on the thread, and wanted to say DHT is amazing preworkout. If you're going for a pr, you WILL get it, If you're not, you'll be suprised how easy the weights move and still hit a pr. It gives you increased stamina and better neuromuscular coordination, more primed nervous system.

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                                    A Former User @pannacottas
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                                    @pannacottas ever stack dht with progesterone?

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                                      A Former User @thyroidchor27
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                                      @thyroidchor27 anavar is not hair safe according to my nigga taeian clark

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                                            A Former User @thyroidchor27
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                                            @thyroidchor27 you don't need any test base with nandrolone, dbol or halotestin and probably lots of other steroids. the latter 2 orals won't even shut the user down appreciably in cycles.

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