Dizziness, acid reflux, fatigue. Help pls kind sirs kindly do the needful.
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Sorry I should say if you think the milk is working then continue, I’ve found personally for it to be mildly irritating
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@Jakeandpace dude what are the odds im also called Jake, thank you for the message, i vibe with the fibre thing. definitely feels like i need some more cushioning for digestion. will try some more b vitamins
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Don’t go blindly increasing your metabolic rate willy nilly when you most likely have deficiencies. I discovered recently that I most likely have a zinc deficiency after supplementing it.
maybe there is something to this, ive experienced what feel like hot flashes a few times over the last couple of weeks, body temp is very high, high verbalisation and a big adrenaline dump. maybe i cant handle the higher metabolism right now.
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I’ve also experienced what could be called hot flashes from too much thyroid and just generally increasing the metabolic rate too much without consideration for nutrients. My hands would go incredibly cold as well. After supplementing zinc and stopping the thyroid (for now) the fluctuations in my temp have eased and energy is more sustained throughout the day. Deficiencies are very important.
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@Him Have you also tried peaty ways to lower/manage serotonin, estrogen, adrenalin, and cortisol? (it may help with many issues incl. dizziness)
Have you tried to change (experiment with) the amounts/ratios of milk, OJ, coffee, etc.?
Do you try to help your body to increase your metabolism? By understanding how it works what supports it and what's not?
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@Him If you aren't easily offended you might check out Nathan Hatch's biohacks. He started with RP when he was very ill (RP saved his life) and has now far surpassed just surviving. I'm 3 weeks in. So far so good.
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@S-Holmes No i have not I will do some investigating thank you
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@Kvirion Im still new to Peating, only found about him late last year, main thing ive done is completely cut out PUFAs and start having the carrot salad. I suspect I have some intestinal/stomach ulcers which are driving inflammation and probably contributing to the dizziness. I seem to tolerate starches like pasta, rice and potatoes very well. I suspect I should be reducing my fat intake as im used to adding cooking fats freely to meals. Funnily enough some of the peaty things ive tried (additional coffee with nutrition support and orange juice) have contributed to me feeling worse. It seems that ive now become incredibly sensititve to coffee, this is pure speculation but Im wondering if having a clearer digestive tract is allowing for more rapid absorption so things i could tolerate are now more damaging? I dont know.
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@Him I started reading, and implementing, Dr Peat's work about 18 years ago. I do believe, as was the case with Nathan, that he saved my life, but I wasn't thriving. RP seemed to focus on the science of metabolic health with a few specific instructions. Nathan has pulled together the details of restoring metabolism. He has an e-book available for around $40 (his paperback is out of print but I found a used copy for $40). His blog is free though.
His work isn't for everyone. Parts are sexually graphic.
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@S-Holmes Just an initial glance at his website screams grifter . He seems caught up in the modern cult which feels very unpeaty to me. I will try his sodium acetate suggestion and let you know how i get on
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@Him It took me a few years to finally decide to try his strategies. We're already seeing some good results. He says you should see improvement in a couple of weeks. Grifters usually don't make such bold claims.
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@Him said in Dizziness, acid reflux, fatigue. Help pls kind sirs kindly do the needful.:
Im still new to Peating, only found about him late last year, main thing ive done is completely cut out PUFAs and start having the carrot salad.
Good start, welcome in peatarain circles
As you probably already know the key principle of Ray was: Perceive. Think. Act. He was against strict prescriptions and rules. Coffee, orange, and orange juice were just examples. His guidelines were focused on optimizing one's metabolism by providing balanced macro and micronutrients and balancing hormones - especially minimizing serotonin, cortisol, and estradiol. All are customized to a specific person.
You seem already well attuned to what your body is trying to tell you. The next step would be to research and better understand your symptoms, and then act accordingly...
You can use for example sources like- https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/4/ray-peat-resource-thread
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb2F8xLQMvw
- https://testonation.com/
To learn more about how your body works...
that ive now become incredibly sensititve to coffee,
So, don't force yourself to drink coffee or orange juice, stop it for some time and try something else. Perceive. Think. Act.
For example, try Google like this "Ray Peat acid reflux or ulcers" - you should find videos like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynibO1D2_4YBTW Have you visited a doctor near you?
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Thanks for the welcome
As you probably already know the key principle of Ray was: Perceive. Think. Act. He was against strict prescriptions and rules. Coffee, orange, and orange juice were just examples. His guidelines were focused on optimizing one's metabolism by providing balanced macro and micronutrients and balancing hormones - especially minimizing serotonin, cortisol, and estradiol. All are customized to a specific person.
that ive now become incredibly sensititve to coffee,
So, don't force yourself to drink coffee or orange juice, stop it for some time and try something else. Perceive. Think. Act.
For example, try Google like this "Ray Peat acid reflux or ulcers" - you should find videos like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynibO1D2_4YYes I've already made these adjustments, Im frustrated as quite a few of the more prominent suggestions Ray made dont seem to have moved the needle on my health significantly. Id say the things I've observed a strong positive health outcome with so far are the carrot salad and magnesium glycinate (not sure if this ones recced by Peat something I picked up from general alternative health spheres). I haven't tried any hormonal interventions yet but i think i need to famialirise myself with my physiology (body temp, heart rate, blood sugar) before I start
BTW Have you visited a doctor near you?
No but mostly because I don't think it will help, I should be more proactive in getting my own blood panel done but I haven't done that either. My previous experience with doctors with issues like this have been fruitless and its very inconvenient to see a GP in uk (have a 30 minute window during work hours to arrange an appt, oftentimes you wont get one)
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@Him Hi,
Yes I've already made these adjustments, Im frustrated as quite a few of the more prominent suggestions Ray made dont seem to have moved the needle on my health significantly.
Most of Ray's advice is context-specific i.e. works when applied in proper circumstances... e.g. in the right order...
Id say the things I've observed a strong positive health outcome with so far are the carrot salad and magnesium glycinate
Good choices, both are Peat-approved.
For me, the following advice helped me most to move from a low energy, low mood, and IBS-D/acid-reflux state (messed keto diet) to a much better (peatful) situation.
- Pro-Thyroid foods: milk/cheese, eggs, beef, oysters, refined coconut oil; fresh orange juice, coffee (source of magnesium, vit. B1, and caffeine) & honey/sucrose/milk; salt, seafood: sole, whitefish, turbot, scallops, lobster, shrimp, and squid. Fruits… | DHEA/pregnenolone, collagen, nicotinamide.
- Pro-Mitochondrial respiration: Aspirin, PQQ (Pyrroloquinoline Quinone), Coenzyme Q10 (CoQ10), CO2 bag-breathing, creatine, BCAAs + Tyrosine, taurine, carnosine; Urolithin A, apigenin, blueberries/OJ; Calcium, Potassium, Copper, salt, Mg, Selenium, Zn; vitamins B, C, D3, A + E, K2; foods containing caffeic or stearic acids; inosine; Boswellia, Cordyceps. Red light. Yoga…
- Normalizing cortisol by firstly getting the inflammation and stress down, then by adding (in afternoons) vitamins B6-P5P, B3+B1, C, A+E, D3+K2, Ca, Zn, Mg, inosine, theanine, apigenin, 5-6mg of DHEA, Aspirin, Royal jelly, icariin, emodin, Tulsi; gelatin, palmitic acid, coffee, ~pomegranate, honey/milk/OJ; yoga, CO2…
- Anti-serotonin: "The safest that I know of would be theanine, BCAA + tyrosine, caffeine, and a good deal of niacinamide. P5P is dopaminergic, so that would make it anti-serotonin as well. I think the combination of theanine, BCAA, and tyrosine has some serious potential as an anti-serotonin tool organism-wide and as such helpful in issues like weight management, immune system support, libido, and mood." ~haidut | Plus: aspirin, inosine, creatine, collagen, magnesium, thyroids (^T3), and CBG (as a 5-HT1A antagonist).
- Proper calcium to phosphate ratio in the diet: cutting out meat, beans, nuts, and possibly all rice including white while also supplementing eggshell or bone grinds, drinking milk, and eating ice cream…
- “Carbon dioxide (CO2), glycine, GABA, saturated fatty acids (for example, Nanji, et al., 1997), vitamin K, coenzyme Q10, niacinamide, magnesium, red light, thyroid hormone, progesterone, testosterone, and pregnenolone are factors that can be increased to protect against inappropriate cellular excitation.”
- GABA "agonists" should lower adrenaline. Since glycine, taurine, and niacinamide are all GABA "agonists" they all have studies showing lower adrenaline when consuming them. It also decreases with the help of salt, sugar/OJ, milk, sunlight… Plus inosine, theanine, ~apigenin, Tulsi, antihistamines, CBD/CBG, and forest bathing. Adrenaline increases with stress, heat, HIIT/IF/fear/excitement, and caffeine taken in a fasting state…
- Anti-Endotoxins: activated charcoal; aspirin, antihistamines, Cyproheptadine & antibiotics, D3/sunlight. | Activated charcoal is great at lowering gut serotonin…
- sunshine/sun-bathing, walking/hiking in nature, etc.
- Briefly: RP nutrition has about 100-250 grams of carbs, 75 g of proteins, ~50 g of fat; ~40/35/25% ratio…
The list above has been based on suggestions of Ray or his closest mentees... I did those in a step-by-step way with a lot of trial and error... Plus intense learning of Ray''s holistic approach to human biology.
BTW peatarians also suggested Saccharomyces boulardii for gut issues...
My previous experience with doctors with issues like this have been fruitless and its very inconvenient
This is unfortunate, it's very hard to find a wise doctor...
If you wanna to get peatarian advice you can ask Danny Roddy or Hans Amato online...
