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    noseleather @b1
    last edited by Apr 16, 2024, 3:52 AM

    @b1 yes i mean borax the cleaner lol. you can go actual boron supplements but borax cleaner is the ability to buy a massive amount at dirt cheap price, and appears to be 100% safe as well. 100 mule team is the known brand in the USA

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      ATP
      last edited by Apr 16, 2024, 5:31 PM

      Why take boron?

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        DavidPS @ATP
        last edited by Apr 16, 2024, 6:57 PM

        @ATP said in Boron supplements:

        Why take boron?

        It is used for bone and joint health.

        Essentiality of Boron for Healthy Bones and Joints

        Using Boron Supplementation in Cancer Prevention and Treatment: A Review Article

        ““Effective health care depends on self-care” - Ivan Illich, 👀
        ☂️

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          DavidPS
          last edited by Apr 16, 2024, 7:28 PM

          The Borax Conspiracy

          ““Effective health care depends on self-care” - Ivan Illich, 👀
          ☂️

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            BioEclectic
            last edited by BioEclectic Apr 17, 2024, 3:23 AM Apr 16, 2024, 8:09 PM

            The late Ted from Bangkok counseled many to take Boron a few days a week, and to take short breaks from it regularly. Pretty sure most of his Boron info is still posted at the Earth Clinic forum.

            Edit: here's some of Ted's info:
            https://www.earthclinic.com/search.php?search=Boron&r=&ps=1&rfs=1&qa=1&ts=1

            Here's an interesting post:
            How Borax Can Help Alleviate Arthritis Symptoms and More
            snip:
            *Borax is a natural remedy that can effectively treat various types of arthritis and joint problems. It's a low-cost and straightforward solution that can help alleviate symptoms of osteoarthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, psoriatic arthritis, ankylosing spondylitis, and more.

            Borax is a mineral compound used for medicinal purposes for centuries. It contains boron, which has anti-inflammatory and pain-relieving properties, making it an effective natural remedy for arthritis.*

            Here's an old archived Health and Longevity newsletter article titled Boron for Better Bones

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              BioEclectic
              last edited by BioEclectic Apr 18, 2024, 11:34 PM Apr 16, 2024, 9:38 PM

              Take the following with a grain of salt as commercial interests may be involved, or simply not properly researched for all i know ...

              A supposedly more therapeutic form of Boron, Calcium Fructoborate, CaFB, just one of many sugar borates.

              • Calcium Fructoborate: a novel nutrient for Bone & Joints
              • Calcium Fructoborate Kills Breast Cancer Cells​
              • Calcium Fructoborate Helps Symptoms of Osteoarthritis
              • The Treatment of Osteoporosis with Calcium Fructoborate
              • Calcium Fructoborate Lowers Inflammatory Nitric Oxide and IL-6.
              • Calcium Fructoborate Quiets Inflammatory Neutrophils
              • Calcium Fructoborate as an Antioxidant
              • Calcium Fructoborate Promotes Hormone Balance

              I've seen it relatively inexpensive in the past at Amazon by searching directly for Calcium Fructoborate or using a trademark name "Fruitex-B".

              Edit:

              Dr Hesslink (PDF):
              The Fructoborates: part of a family of naturally ocurring sugar complexes, biochemistry, physiology, and impact on human health - review (definitely read the introduction page at the very least)

              • Index of Dr Hesslinks other Boron articles.
              • I guess calcium is not necessary for a fructoborate to exist, and that there are multiple types, then there are also glucoborates.

              Edit: i know i can give @Amazoniac credit for some or most of these links. An interesting topic imo, will revisit.

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                b1 @BioEclectic
                last edited by Apr 16, 2024, 11:19 PM

                @BioEclectic
                On Amazon I can only find Calcium magnesium with boron. 😠
                It may be because I'm not in USA.

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                  BioEclectic @b1
                  last edited by BioEclectic Apr 17, 2024, 3:35 AM Apr 16, 2024, 11:32 PM

                  @b1 said in Boron supplements:

                  @BioEclectic
                  On Amazon I can only find Calcium magnesium with boron. 😠
                  It may be because I'm not in USA

                  Meaning, you cannot find any form of Boron that doesn't include the additional minerals, or were you specifically searching for CaFB?

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                    b1 @BioEclectic
                    last edited by Apr 17, 2024, 9:21 AM

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                      b1 @BioEclectic
                      last edited by Apr 17, 2024, 9:22 AM

                      @BioEclectic
                      When I look up calcium fructoborate and the branded one. I can find other boron supplements though.

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                        Mauritio
                        last edited by Mauritio Nov 22, 2024, 4:57 PM Nov 22, 2024, 3:20 PM

                        Raisins are pretty good sources of boron averaging about 2mg/100mg. If you can find low PUFA ,sun dried ones. Should be good !

                        Raisins also have benefits on intestines, increasing transit speed and SCFA in the stool.
                        125g raisins/day decreased the transit time from 42h to 28h! That's a huge benefit.
                        I notice lessened constipation from raisins as well.

                        "Both sun-dried raisins and cream of tartar appear to be good stool softeners and to shorten intestinal transit time, although the fibre in sun-dried raisins has the added benefit of increasing faecal weight. Both sun-dried raisins and cream of tartar modulate the composition of faecal bile acids and SCFA in a way that has potential health benefits."

                        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/13129449/

                        Dare to think.

                        My X:
                        x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                          Mauritio
                          last edited by Nov 22, 2024, 3:39 PM

                          Boron lowers PTH and cortisol, while increasing vitamin D and osteocalcin in this animal study.
                          Osteocalcin is anabolic and androgenic . Just do quick search on it , it has some interesting pro-metabolic properties.

                          https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32739828/

                          Dare to think.

                          My X:
                          x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                            Mauritio
                            last edited by Mauritio Nov 22, 2024, 4:19 PM Nov 22, 2024, 4:14 PM

                            This is probably the best post on boron (by Travis) .
                            I agree with the hypothesis that arthritis might be of fungal origin and that borons main effect is anti-fungal. Not only that it also protects against fungal toxins like aflatoxin (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0946672X23000032)
                            It's wild that Travis took gram -amounts of boron. It is inherently non toxic , apparently less toxic than salt.

                            https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/nothing-boring-about-boron.22805/post-451585

                            Dare to think.

                            My X:
                            x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                              Lejeboca @Mauritio
                              last edited by Nov 28, 2024, 3:16 AM

                              @Mauritio
                              Travis also spoke about boron as a 'natural fluoride's antidote' :

                              "This [catechol‐O‐methyltransferase] enzyme can be safely inhibited with epicatechin gallate, found in high concentrations in green tea. However, green tea also has fluoride; this fact would make me add fluoride's natural antidote—boron—to the tea."

                              -- https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/caffeine-and-progression-of-parkinson-disease-a-deleterious-interaction-with-creatine.7841/post-301043

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                                Lejeboca @b1
                                last edited by Lejeboca Nov 28, 2024, 3:31 AM Nov 28, 2024, 3:31 AM

                                @b1 said in Boron supplements:

                                I cant find any borax supplements unless you mean the cleaning / slime making stuff

                                Indeed, to second @noseleather borax 'for cleaning' is good stuff. (modulo 'slime making' probably .lol)

                                Anecdotally, I add Borax powder to wash my linens (and light-colored clothes). This is my only 'supplement' with Borax. Idealabs hair tests showed a good load of boron. This was my only change in boron consumption. (I used to and I do eat quite a bit of raisins too.)

                                05/2024 -- Hair                                   05/2023 -- Hair 
                                

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                                  Alomongerpete @Lejeboca
                                  last edited by Jan 18, 2025, 1:36 PM

                                  How much borax should I put in to the water when bathing?

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