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    • BioEclecticB
      BioEclectic
      last edited by BioEclectic

      The late Ted from Bangkok counseled many to take Boron a few days a week, and to take short breaks from it regularly. Pretty sure most of his Boron info is still posted at the Earth Clinic forum.

      Edit: here's some of Ted's info:
      https://www.earthclinic.com/search.php?search=Boron&r=&ps=1&rfs=1&qa=1&ts=1

      Here's an interesting post:
      How Borax Can Help Alleviate Arthritis Symptoms and More
      snip:
      *Borax is a natural remedy that can effectively treat various types of arthritis and joint problems. It's a low-cost and straightforward solution that can help alleviate symptoms of osteoarthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, psoriatic arthritis, ankylosing spondylitis, and more.

      Borax is a mineral compound used for medicinal purposes for centuries. It contains boron, which has anti-inflammatory and pain-relieving properties, making it an effective natural remedy for arthritis.*

      Here's an old archived Health and Longevity newsletter article titled Boron for Better Bones

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      • BioEclecticB
        BioEclectic
        last edited by BioEclectic

        Take the following with a grain of salt as commercial interests may be involved, or simply not properly researched for all i know ...

        A supposedly more therapeutic form of Boron, Calcium Fructoborate, CaFB, just one of many sugar borates.

        • Calcium Fructoborate: a novel nutrient for Bone & Joints
        • Calcium Fructoborate Kills Breast Cancer Cells​
        • Calcium Fructoborate Helps Symptoms of Osteoarthritis
        • The Treatment of Osteoporosis with Calcium Fructoborate
        • Calcium Fructoborate Lowers Inflammatory Nitric Oxide and IL-6.
        • Calcium Fructoborate Quiets Inflammatory Neutrophils
        • Calcium Fructoborate as an Antioxidant
        • Calcium Fructoborate Promotes Hormone Balance

        I've seen it relatively inexpensive in the past at Amazon by searching directly for Calcium Fructoborate or using a trademark name "Fruitex-B".

        Edit:

        Dr Hesslink (PDF):
        The Fructoborates: part of a family of naturally ocurring sugar complexes, biochemistry, physiology, and impact on human health - review (definitely read the introduction page at the very least)

        • Index of Dr Hesslinks other Boron articles.
        • I guess calcium is not necessary for a fructoborate to exist, and that there are multiple types, then there are also glucoborates.

        Edit: i know i can give @Amazoniac credit for some or most of these links. An interesting topic imo, will revisit.

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        • b1B
          b1 @BioEclectic
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          @BioEclectic
          On Amazon I can only find Calcium magnesium with boron. 😠
          It may be because I'm not in USA.

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          • BioEclecticB
            BioEclectic @b1
            last edited by BioEclectic

            @b1 said in Boron supplements:

            @BioEclectic
            On Amazon I can only find Calcium magnesium with boron. 😠
            It may be because I'm not in USA

            Meaning, you cannot find any form of Boron that doesn't include the additional minerals, or were you specifically searching for CaFB?

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              • b1B
                b1 @BioEclectic
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                @BioEclectic
                When I look up calcium fructoborate and the branded one. I can find other boron supplements though.

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                • MauritioM
                  Mauritio
                  last edited by Mauritio

                  Raisins are pretty good sources of boron averaging about 2mg/100mg. If you can find low PUFA ,sun dried ones. Should be good !

                  Raisins also have benefits on intestines, increasing transit speed and SCFA in the stool.
                  125g raisins/day decreased the transit time from 42h to 28h! That's a huge benefit.
                  I notice lessened constipation from raisins as well.

                  "Both sun-dried raisins and cream of tartar appear to be good stool softeners and to shorten intestinal transit time, although the fibre in sun-dried raisins has the added benefit of increasing faecal weight. Both sun-dried raisins and cream of tartar modulate the composition of faecal bile acids and SCFA in a way that has potential health benefits."

                  https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/13129449/

                  Dare to think.

                  My X:
                  x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                  • MauritioM
                    Mauritio
                    last edited by

                    Boron lowers PTH and cortisol, while increasing vitamin D and osteocalcin in this animal study.
                    Osteocalcin is anabolic and androgenic . Just do quick search on it , it has some interesting pro-metabolic properties.

                    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32739828/

                    Dare to think.

                    My X:
                    x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                    • MauritioM
                      Mauritio
                      last edited by Mauritio

                      This is probably the best post on boron (by Travis) .
                      I agree with the hypothesis that arthritis might be of fungal origin and that borons main effect is anti-fungal. Not only that it also protects against fungal toxins like aflatoxin (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0946672X23000032)
                      It's wild that Travis took gram -amounts of boron. It is inherently non toxic , apparently less toxic than salt.

                      https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/nothing-boring-about-boron.22805/post-451585

                      Dare to think.

                      My X:
                      x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                      • LejebocaL
                        Lejeboca @Mauritio
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                        @Mauritio
                        Travis also spoke about boron as a 'natural fluoride's antidote' :

                        "This [catechol‐O‐methyltransferase] enzyme can be safely inhibited with epicatechin gallate, found in high concentrations in green tea. However, green tea also has fluoride; this fact would make me add fluoride's natural antidote—boron—to the tea."

                        -- https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/caffeine-and-progression-of-parkinson-disease-a-deleterious-interaction-with-creatine.7841/post-301043

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                        • LejebocaL
                          Lejeboca @b1
                          last edited by Lejeboca

                          @b1 said in Boron supplements:

                          I cant find any borax supplements unless you mean the cleaning / slime making stuff

                          Indeed, to second @noseleather borax 'for cleaning' is good stuff. (modulo 'slime making' probably .lol)

                          Anecdotally, I add Borax powder to wash my linens (and light-colored clothes). This is my only 'supplement' with Borax. Idealabs hair tests showed a good load of boron. This was my only change in boron consumption. (I used to and I do eat quite a bit of raisins too.)

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                            Alomongerpete @Lejeboca
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                            How much borax should I put in to the water when bathing?

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