Glucose loading cures everything?
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@Razvan said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
Caution to this. It's very dangerous to indulge in big amounts of dextrose. I have seen people getting 200 blood sugar from 15 grams of it.
@Insomniac said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
I played around with about 200 grams but I ran out of glucose test strips. It brought up my heart rate but I didn't notice anything else.
I'm shocked 15 grams can do that much. Maybe they have a medical issue.
It probably depends gents, a lot on sodium (and chloride). And everything else thereafter.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10232203/
I'm still getting used to walking with the idea there's legitimacy in what's going on here, for a certain kind of person with a certain kind of comorbidity. The question for me is whether they want to stay in that state, and how to get them out of it if they don't.
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@Razvan Dr Stephens says it's perfectly safe. He has hundreds of patients and high blood sugar levels have not been reported. He has literally nothing to gain by being dishonest. He doesn't even sell dextrose. (I asked him.)
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Could someone please tell Ms Holmes I'm sorry for being an obnoxious smartarse.
She may wish to keep me blocked. No problem. If she does could you remind her to tend to her salt appetite if, as, and, or when she may experience this kind of thing.
@Androsclerozat said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
I don't know. I've been dextrosed 300g day for 4 days and it changed me. I sleep well, I don't get sugar crashes anymore but man kills my appetite. I eat way less and I don't lose weight, maybe it's water weight from insulin spikes?
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@Androsclerozat said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
I don't know. I've been dextrosed 300g day for 4 days and it changed me. I sleep well, I don't get sugar crashes anymore but man kills my appetite. I eat way less and I don't lose weight, maybe it's water weight from insulin spikes?
I would say this would be expected
Especially if your cells are in a stressed stateEvan has had great results because he was eating (not sure for how long) a healthy amount of calories and or carbohydrates.
This is based on some physiology and some personal experience.
One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.
-DB
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@Peatful said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
Evan has had great results because he was eating (not sure for how long) a healthy amount of calories and or carbohydrates.
You're absolutely right. Like this isn't just about salt. But still... he gets it.
https://x.com/search?q=%40thortorrens salt&src=typed_query&f=live
I don't mind this guy he's got a sense of humour. It's probably the egos that make them scrap with each other from time to time.
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Oh wait there's two Evan's now...
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@Peatful I'm taking 200+ grams daily (a week in). I haven't needed a trip to the hospital yet.
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@S-Holmes said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
@Peatful I'm taking 200+ grams daily (a week in). I haven't needed a trip to the hospital yet.
Hey, this is voice recognition. Thanks for the update.
Yes, the way I did it I would not recommend which was going all in
Now my outcome was good, but the journey was indescribably rough,
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@Peatful How long did you take glucose?
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@S-Holmes said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
@Peatful How long did you take glucose?
I didn’t do that.
I just ate an abundance of simple carbohydrates, mostly in the form of sucrose for about a year.To not stress my adrenals, I was trying to take in that much sugar with a balanced amount of fats and proteins so my adrenals would not work over time trying to regulate my blood sugar
I was in extremely bad health mind you
Not hyperboleAgain, this is voice to text
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@Peatful Eating sucrose isn't the same as glucose therapy. Sucrose can definitely cause BS spikes. And I've eaten sucrose for years but continued to decline. Glucose therapy is definitely not to be confused with regular sugar in high amounts (which I won't do).
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Two interesting things to note:
One, I got a copy of Dr Stephens’s book and in it he suggests that if you are ready to increase your dose to do so by no more than 8grams a week. Then remain at that dose for the week before adding another 8grams.
Two, since adding the dextrose I am noticing I have something of a mildly unpleasant reaction to fruit. Perhaps this reaction was there and I wasn’t able to parse it out from the noise of my body’s condition? At any rate, I’ve tried it out a few times, and very definitely I get residue on my teeth and a slight inflammation of my gums when I eat fruit away from my dose of dextrose. This is crazy to me because I’ve been eating large volumes of fruit for almost 6 years, (not unreasonably large, but it’s been a staple in my diet). During the 6ish years I’ve been incorporating Peats work I’ve had transient issues with inflammation and weight gain, (granted I was underweight when I found Peat’s work).
I have experimented with starch, (always with saturated fat) and sucrose, and not experienced the same gritty residue on my teeth or accompanying gum sensitivity. Dextrose on the contrary soothes my gums and makes my teeth hard and shiny. Anyone care to venture a guess? I was thinking a 50mg daily round of penicillin VK perhaps. Would bacteria have any affinity for fructose over dextrose? I’ve only been on cynomel for about a month now, (I was one of those stubborn hold-outs who thought a pharmaceutical hormone couldn’t possibly be good for me, lol). Perhaps I just need some more time with thyroid before my immune system improves and I’m less susceptible to local infection, (which may be a simple explanation to this oral issue).
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@evan-hinkle I haven't tested fruit since being on glucose, but my teeth and gums also seem to be doing great.
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@evan-hinkle said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
I never had positive results from fruit. I had painful oral health, (teeth and gums) symptoms of liver issues, (need to eat frequently-poor glycogen stores, mood swings, waking at 2am) weight gain. I don’t know why, I’ve been “Peating” for almost 6 years now, but fruit just doesn’t provide the relief or satisfaction of dextrose.
@evan-hinkle said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
Two, since adding the dextrose I am noticing I have something of a mildly unpleasant reaction to fruit. Perhaps this reaction was there and I wasn’t able to parse it out from the noise of my body’s condition? At any rate, I’ve tried it out a few times, and very definitely I get residue on my teeth and a slight inflammation of my gums when I eat fruit away from my dose of dextrose. This is crazy to me because I’ve been eating large volumes of fruit for almost 6 years, (not unreasonably large, but it’s been a staple in my diet). During the 6ish years I’ve been incorporating Peats work I’ve had transient issues with inflammation and weight gain, (granted I was underweight when I found Peat’s work).
@evan-hinkle said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
Anyone care to venture a guess?
On the one hand I just want to say, keep doing what you're doing. Substituting fructose containing foods with dextrose. Because your stability, your health, your wellbeing are what matters in the immediate.
On the other hand.
@evan-hinkle said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
I don’t drink a ton of fluids.
How much salt do you eat on/with other foods?
Only if you don't mind. I don't have answers, yet. Someone else might though.
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@S-Holmes said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
@Peatful Eating sucrose isn't the same as glucose therapy. Sucrose can definitely cause BS spikes. And I've eaten sucrose for years but continued to decline. Glucose therapy is definitely not to be confused with regular sugar in high amounts (which I won't do).
I am stating that’s what I did and it worked for me
I listened to some of the YouTube interview you posted above, and I found him humble and quite precious
But he did call glucose and dextrose interchangeable
And I went about my healing with food only
No supplements
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@S-Holmes
What are you talking about?
I tried dextrose, even 30g of it put me in a coma state, like eating junk food. Clear high blood sugar signs. 1L of coke doesn't give me that.
I have perfect (low end) Hba1c after years of sucrose consumption.
During my experimantion with dextrose i concluded that even rice could be better. -
@Razvan is it possible that you simply lowered stress hormones with the dextrose inducing the “coma” state you suggested?
Also, have you used a blood glucose monitor to check blood sugar? I believe the A1C is an average level, not an acute one right?
Just playing devils advocate. Of course I have no more information than anyone else, (especially regarding one’s own body).
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Something is separating our response Raz.
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@ThinPicking I always salt to taste. I keep a dish of salt next to my stove with 1/16 tsp in it and typically add 4-6 of those per meal, (so maybe a quarter tsp or so of added salt per meal. I use the pickling salt that Peat was fond of.
