Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1
-
@Jennifer said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
@Mossy said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
@Jennifer said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
@Mossy said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
@Jennifer said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
@Mossy said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
@Jennifer said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
@Mossy said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
@Jennifer said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
@SpaceManJim said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
I'm wondering what people value as their most important daily supplement (vitamin, mineral, hormone, etc). For your choice, why?
Thyroid is the supplement that had the greatest impact on my health, but the only supplement I continue to use is vitamin D3 (Premier Research Labs). When my thyroid function was poor, supplementing vitamin D kept me from becoming deficient, even when I was sunbathing regularly, and now I use it year round primarily as a sleep aid.
Hi Jennifer, I'd be curious to know what time of day you take vitamin D for sleep? I ask because I've read that taking it at bed time may actually negatively affect sleep. Considering it does make many tired when taking it, it would be convenient to take before bed.
Hi Mossy, I typically take it in the morning, but the times I’ve taken it before bed have been just as effective. What’s more likely to affect my sleep negatively are the excipients. I used to get the NOW brand of vitamin D drops until I discovered that the MCT oil it contains was irritating my intestines and disturbing my sleep. I switched to vitamin D in olive oil and haven’t had a problem since.
Ok, good to know that it works am or pm for you. I also have vitamin D in olive oil, which I also find better than the MCT, where the MCT gave me what I've described as a serotonin effect in the gut, but maybe your description that it's irritating the intestines is more accurate. Do you purposely stay away from the other supplements that many pair with vitamin D — Vitamin K2, Magnesium, Calcium, and Vitamin A? I'd be interested to know how you've concluded to just use vitamin D (if that indeed is the case). I've heard many share that these co-factors are needed to properly facilitate vitamin D, such as to direct calcium into the bones versus the blood. I ask out of genuine interest, not because I think I know better or am suggesting otherwise. I like the idea of taking less supplements when possible.
Oh, no worries. I didn’t think you were suggesting otherwise. And I think your description is just as accurate as mine. I simplify by saying irritating instead out of habit because it’s easier for the non-Peaters I speak with to understand as a negative when they believe “serotonin is the happy hormone.“ I supplement vitamin D and not the others because I don’t get enough sun during the winter to keep my level above 30, but my diet is naturally abundant in K2, magnesium, calcium and vitamin A so my levels of them are always within range. When it comes to directing calcium into bones, I’m more concerned with my thyroid and parathyroid function.
Thank you for the added detail. Good to know you're able to take just the vitamin D, considering you're getting the others in food. I may try just that.
You’re welcome.
Yeah, I try to get nutrients from food whenever possible for a couple of reasons and with my current diet, I don’t get much vitamin D, however, I plan on experimenting with UV-exposed mushrooms. Ray talked about incandescent light for vitamin D so that’s another option.UV exposed mushrooms sound interesting. I did a quick search and it seems most UV exposed mushrooms provide D2, with some providing D3 and D4 (shiitake). I wonder how much importance should be placed on prioritizing D3, which most supplements contain today? At the least, UV exposed mushrooms seem worth trying. Would you set them in the sun or shine a UV light on them indoors? After doing some math, it would seem best to simply use the UV exposed mushrooms in place of regular ones, within a given meal, not necessarily replace supplemental vitamin D with them. (At least for someone on a budget.) Cost wise and food volume wise, it would be hard to match the cost and convenience per dose of olive oil based vitamin D3.
It’s been years since I’ve researched it but from what I remember, studies showed that D2 isn’t as effective at raising serum vitamin D concentrations as D3, but my diet does contain some D3 from animal proteins and I planned on using shiitakes because I already consume them for selenium. However, I’m going to trial a lichen-based D3 supplement first. My main reason for wanting to get vitamin D from mushrooms instead of lanolin-derived D3 is I don’t know the farm(s) that supply the lanolin so I don’t know if the sheep are treated ethically, and I hadn’t found a lichen-derived D3 that wasn’t in MCT or sunflower oil, but I finally came across one in olive oil this past Saturday.
You have another interesting idea with that lichen based D3. I did a quick search on amazon, but I'm only seeing a dry version, nothing olive oil based. If you happen to be buying that online and you don't mind sharing a link, I would be interested in learning more about it.
"To desire action is to desire limitation" — G. K. Chesterton
"The true step of health and improvement is slow." — Novalis -
@Sugarnotsnow said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
@Jennifer Agree with Jennifer on this one. Thyroid was so essential in my journey to metabolic health. Thyroid and vitamin D are the two supplements i continue to take.
You and Jennifer both have had success with thyroid. I've read so many comments of how challenging it is to get it right. If time allows, do you mind if I ask which brand you take and how you take it, and what improvements you see on it? Many take it intending to wean off of it once health has improved. Is that your goal as well, or do you intent to continue with it long-term? Of all the Peatisms, thyroid is the one thing I have not tried yet due to a majority of bad experiences others have had. Maybe your story (like Jennifer's) could prove otherwise.
"To desire action is to desire limitation" — G. K. Chesterton
"The true step of health and improvement is slow." — Novalis -
@Mossy said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
@Sugarnotsnow said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
@Jennifer Agree with Jennifer on this one. Thyroid was so essential in my journey to metabolic health. Thyroid and vitamin D are the two supplements i continue to take.
You and Jennifer both have had success with thyroid. I've read so many comments of how challenging it is to get it right. If time allows, do you mind if I ask which brand you take and how you take it, and what improvements you see on it? Many take it intending to wean off of it once health has improved. Is that your goal as well, or do you intent to continue with it long-term? Of all the Peatisms, thyroid is the one thing I have not tried yet due to a majority of bad experiences others have had. Maybe your story could prove otherwise.
I take haidut's thyroid "tyromix." When taking it I would not take more than 2 drops at once. more than 9mcg t3 in one sitting will cause a stress reaction. So i take it one drop at a time spread out throughout the day. I take it with meals. For example 6 mcg t4 3 mcg t3 with breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Then two doses before bed. I total 5 drops throughout the day. When I first started I was needing up to 12 drops a day to maintain high temps. I have slowly weaned off but I dont plan to come off entirely.
The earth speaks to us all, Just listen
-
@Mossy, here’s a link to the lichen-based D3:
https://greenpeach.com/products/liquid-vitamin-d3-400iu
Or if you prefer to order it through Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Liquid-Vegan-Organic-Vitamin-1600/dp/B0D8QCQVPG/ref=sr_1_4_sspa
In my recovery, I’m a soldier at war, I have broken down walls
I defined, I designed, my recovery
In the sound of the sea, in the oceans of me
I defined, I designed, my recovery ~ James Arthur -
Progest-E for me
-
@Sugarnotsnow said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
@Mossy said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
@Sugarnotsnow said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
@Jennifer Agree with Jennifer on this one. Thyroid was so essential in my journey to metabolic health. Thyroid and vitamin D are the two supplements i continue to take.
You and Jennifer both have had success with thyroid. I've read so many comments of how challenging it is to get it right. If time allows, do you mind if I ask which brand you take and how you take it, and what improvements you see on it? Many take it intending to wean off of it once health has improved. Is that your goal as well, or do you intent to continue with it long-term? Of all the Peatisms, thyroid is the one thing I have not tried yet due to a majority of bad experiences others have had. Maybe your story could prove otherwise.
I take haidut's thyroid "tyromix." When taking it I would not take more than 2 drops at once. more than 9mcg t3 in one sitting will cause a stress reaction. So i take it one drop at a time spread out throughout the day. I take it with meals. For example 6 mcg t4 3 mcg t3 with breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Then two doses before bed. I total 5 drops throughout the day. When I first started I was needing up to 12 drops a day to maintain high temps. I have slowly weaned off but I dont plan to come off entirely.
Thank you for the detail. It's interesting that you take Tyromix and @Jennifer prefers Tyromax. Maybe I will have to try both.
"To desire action is to desire limitation" — G. K. Chesterton
"The true step of health and improvement is slow." — Novalis -
@Jennifer said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
@Mossy, here’s a link to the lichen-based D3:
https://greenpeach.com/products/liquid-vitamin-d3-400iu
Or if you prefer to order it through Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Liquid-Vegan-Organic-Vitamin-1600/dp/B0D8QCQVPG/ref=sr_1_4_sspa
I appreciate that. Thank you.
-
@Mossy Ive never tried tyromax or any form of NDT. I only have experience with synthetic but it worked well for me so I see no reqson to change
The earth speaks to us all, Just listen
-
@Sugarnotsnow said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
@Mossy Ive never tried tyromax or any form of NDT. I only have experience with synthetic but it worked well for me so I see no reqson to change
It's hard to argue with success. I can't blame you for not changing. Per a previous comment from Jennifer, the ratio for T4:T3, is 2:1 for Tyromix, and 4:1 for Tyromax. When I have the courage I'll try each. I just don't feel like dealing with the tachycardia, which seems inevitable for me — until I get the dose right.
"To desire action is to desire limitation" — G. K. Chesterton
"The true step of health and improvement is slow." — Novalis -
@Mossy Yea i think the 2:1 ratio is more in tune with Ray's recommendations as well. Especially for hypothyroid people utillizing a high ratio of t4 is difficult
-
@Mossy said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
@Sugarnotsnow said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
@Mossy said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
@Sugarnotsnow said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
@Jennifer Agree with Jennifer on this one. Thyroid was so essential in my journey to metabolic health. Thyroid and vitamin D are the two supplements i continue to take.
You and Jennifer both have had success with thyroid. I've read so many comments of how challenging it is to get it right. If time allows, do you mind if I ask which brand you take and how you take it, and what improvements you see on it? Many take it intending to wean off of it once health has improved. Is that your goal as well, or do you intent to continue with it long-term? Of all the Peatisms, thyroid is the one thing I have not tried yet due to a majority of bad experiences others have had. Maybe your story could prove otherwise.
I take haidut's thyroid "tyromix." When taking it I would not take more than 2 drops at once. more than 9mcg t3 in one sitting will cause a stress reaction. So i take it one drop at a time spread out throughout the day. I take it with meals. For example 6 mcg t4 3 mcg t3 with breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Then two doses before bed. I total 5 drops throughout the day. When I first started I was needing up to 12 drops a day to maintain high temps. I have slowly weaned off but I dont plan to come off entirely.
Thank you for the detail. It's interesting that you take Tyromix and @Jennifer prefers Tyromax. Maybe I will have to try both.
I prefered TyroMix initially but after a while, it stopped working for me. Ray said that thyroid hormone is unstable in alcohol so I initially thought maybe it had lost its potency over time. All I know for sure is, my T4 never came back below range until supplementing with TyroMix and when I switched back to TyroMax, my T4 came right back in range and my hypo symptoms vanished. With that said, Armour works better for me than TyroMax—I need half the amount.
@Mossy said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
@Jennifer said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
@Mossy, here’s a link to the lichen-based D3:
https://greenpeach.com/products/liquid-vitamin-d3-400iu
Or if you prefer to order it through Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Liquid-Vegan-Organic-Vitamin-1600/dp/B0D8QCQVPG/ref=sr_1_4_sspa
I appreciate that. Thank you.
My pleasure.
In my recovery, I’m a soldier at war, I have broken down walls
I defined, I designed, my recovery
In the sound of the sea, in the oceans of me
I defined, I designed, my recovery ~ James Arthur -
@Jennifer Do you have any experience with cynomel? Im thinking of transitioning from tyromix to cynomel. The alcohol stability thing is interesting. Probably another reason he didnt reccomend liquid thyroid.
The earth speaks to us all, Just listen
-
@Sugarnotsnow, unfortunately, I don’t. If this helps any, Ray recommended Cynoplus in one of our email exchanges, and whenever I come across him recommending thyroid, more often than not it’s Cynoplus. I’m almost sure he said it was good to have some T4 before bed.
In my recovery, I’m a soldier at war, I have broken down walls
I defined, I designed, my recovery
In the sound of the sea, in the oceans of me
I defined, I designed, my recovery ~ James Arthur -
@Jennifer Okay thank you! My plan was to have cynomel (t3) throughout the day than cynoplus(t4 + t3) before bed.
The earth speaks to us all, Just listen
-
@Sugarnotsnow, I think that’s an excellent plan.
-
@Jennifer said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
@Mossy said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
@Sugarnotsnow said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
@Mossy said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
@Sugarnotsnow said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
@Jennifer Agree with Jennifer on this one. Thyroid was so essential in my journey to metabolic health. Thyroid and vitamin D are the two supplements i continue to take.
You and Jennifer both have had success with thyroid. I've read so many comments of how challenging it is to get it right. If time allows, do you mind if I ask which brand you take and how you take it, and what improvements you see on it? Many take it intending to wean off of it once health has improved. Is that your goal as well, or do you intent to continue with it long-term? Of all the Peatisms, thyroid is the one thing I have not tried yet due to a majority of bad experiences others have had. Maybe your story could prove otherwise.
I take haidut's thyroid "tyromix." When taking it I would not take more than 2 drops at once. more than 9mcg t3 in one sitting will cause a stress reaction. So i take it one drop at a time spread out throughout the day. I take it with meals. For example 6 mcg t4 3 mcg t3 with breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Then two doses before bed. I total 5 drops throughout the day. When I first started I was needing up to 12 drops a day to maintain high temps. I have slowly weaned off but I dont plan to come off entirely.
Thank you for the detail. It's interesting that you take Tyromix and @Jennifer prefers Tyromax. Maybe I will have to try both.
I prefered TyroMix initially but after a while, it stopped working for me. Ray said that thyroid hormone is unstable in alcohol so I initially thought maybe it had lost its potency over time. All I know for sure is, my T4 never came back below range until supplementing with TyroMix and when I switched back to TyroMax, my T4 came right back in range and my hypo symptoms vanished. With that said, Armour works better for me than TyroMax—I need half the amount.
Ok, now that is interesting, that you only need 1/2 as much with Armour. I do like the idea of supporting Haidut, but cost wise Armour is looking attractive. Do you mind sharing if you're self treating with the thyroid or do you have a doctor and a prescription? I ask in an effort to learn how confident you and others are buying from the Mexican pharmacies online, which I assume is how people get thyroid without prescription. I understand if you don't want to share some things.
"To desire action is to desire limitation" — G. K. Chesterton
"The true step of health and improvement is slow." — Novalis -
@Mossy, I have a doctor treating my thyroid but if she refused to, I would feel confident ordering from a Mexican pharmacy. I feel my best when my TSH is <0.1, but doctors always pull me off my med when it gets that low and I’m expecting my current doctor to do the same. I’ve spoken with her about it and she’s willing to treat my symptoms, but only to a point. If my TSH gets below range, she’ll most likely reduce my dose so I’ll have to supplement the Armour with TyroMax and stop taking the latter a month before I get new labs.
In my recovery, I’m a soldier at war, I have broken down walls
I defined, I designed, my recovery
In the sound of the sea, in the oceans of me
I defined, I designed, my recovery ~ James Arthur -
@Jennifer said in Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1:
@Mossy, I have a doctor treating my thyroid but if she refused to, I would feel confident ordering from a Mexican pharmacy. I feel my best when my TSH is <0.1, but doctors always pull me off my med when it gets that low and I’m expecting my current doctor to do the same. I’ve spoken with her about it and she’s willing to treat my symptoms, but only to a point. If my TSH gets below range, she’ll most likely reduce my dose so I’ll have to supplement the Armour with TyroMax and stop taking the latter a month before I get new labs.
Ok, good to know. You've reminded me that Labs would still be good to have when self-treating, so if/when I start thyroid I will have to order those myself. I may start vitamin D3 first, then go to thyroid based on how that makes me feel, with pro-thyroid being the goal.
"To desire action is to desire limitation" — G. K. Chesterton
"The true step of health and improvement is slow." — Novalis -
@Mossy Yes labs are always good to know but they aernt the best indicator of thyroid health. I usually get 1-2 a year. Checking your temperature and pulse could be a better measurement.
The earth speaks to us all, Just listen
-
Caffeine
I also feel good from glycine. But don't take too many pills and powders. Eat hearty wholesome food in larger quantities rather than experimenting with supplements.
Many of the bioenergetic supplements contraindicate with one another if you take them at the same time. For example, you shouldn't take Vitamin E with things like CoQ10 or Vitamin K. And you should know everything that calcium renders less effective if taken together and vice versa. It then becomes further trouble remembering which things to take on empty stomach, which in mornings/evenings and which x times per day, etc. And most are making these judgements with but a self-diagnosis of deficiency and then there are concerns of excipients and impurities in products, and so forth. Best to stick to real food over supplements.
