General discussion HIT strength training.
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@Norwegian-Mugabe said in General discussion HIT strength training.:
@TumescentPeanus Is there any reason to train the upper body for longer sets than the lower body? It does not make sense to me.
I find that small muscles like delts don't get exhausted nearly as quickly with a given percentage of 1RM. Taking say 90% of that, I can do 4-5 squats, 3 deadlifts, and 5-6 overhead presses + a clean to get the bar up to my collar. Might have to do with the fact that I'm moving less weight in absolute terms. Might just be my lack of lower body endurance, I always had weak legs as a kid.
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@TumescentPeanus You should perceive, think, and act in all areas of life. It is good that you shape your strength program to your own physiology. Do not be afraid to try out things, and always reevaluate what you do.
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@Norwegian-Mugabe what does it mean to perceive
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@raypneat perceive is the way children view new things and experiences. Try to mimic the way children interactes with new experiences. You will grow more and better if you are able to view the world in this way.
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Mangan on Why strength training is important
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I am a fucking genius. Some people report underwhelming muscle growth when they start HIT strength training, as their T-levels are too low due to general inactivity. Some people need to be instructed to go for walks during rest days as they are too fucking stupid to figure this out for themselves.
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@Norwegian-Mugabe lmao
I have been on a HIT training plan for 7-8 months. 3 sessions a week. When I was bulking I would consistently PR every week on every exercise, which felt great. Next time I bulk I'd go much higher carbs and lower fat, because I got a little tubby by the end. I was drinking a milkshake every night.
Still doing HIT the past 3 months but been doing a high carb, almost zero fat diet. Tyronene, Pansterone, a couple grams of aspirin+ 3-5mg K2. Low intensity cardio. I don't track calories but I'm likely in a significant deficit. I've lost minimal strength. Lost 20 pounds and trimmed 4" off my waist since January.
Gonna be a little muscled twink by summer. Cheers
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@onliest Your progress is great. We need to personify fascism. If you are not on testosterone, then training three times a week is too much. You need to amp up the intensity. You need to adopt the siege mentality. I do not "go to the gym". I come sprinting through the corridors yelling "Total barbarian invasion, total barbarian invasion, total barbarian invasion". this is key, as it strikes fear in everyone else in the building. This signals to your unconscious that you are at the top of the food chain. I warm up by jerking off in the handicap WC. I know I am ready for my weekly workout when I am about to edge. Then I put 200 KGs on the bar and try to go for 20 reps in the squat, which never happens. This is followed by a contraction chin-up hold, and dips until I am spitting blood. With the highest intensity possible, you should not be able to train more than once a week, and people should be afraid of you. There is a direct disproportion of the freak others think you are, and the greatness of your future body. To War!
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@Norwegian-Mugabe My mantra is "Total body fascism, billions of adipocytes must die." I take Pansterone and only spend 20-30 mins per workout max. I'm gonna start incorporating some isometric exercises because Mentzer supremacy.
I've stopped trying to "redpill" my friends and acquaintances on RW ideas because outright persuasion simply doesn't work, and in some cases can be perilous. Instead, I strive to embody vitality, energy and charisma. Anyone that sincerely tries to increase their power and beauty will come to the desired conclusion.
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"The reason why the world has descended to the lowest rung of hell in Man's history is because depsite the lip service paid to them, such life-affirming values no longer predominate." -MM
The more time I spend in nature, the stronger and more focused I become—both in my lifts and in life.
I am the master of my mind and body, harnessing their full potential with precision and purpose.
Efficiency is my guide; I pursue maximum results with minimal wasted effort, channeling my energy wisely.
Every achievement, no matter how small, fuels my drive to push further and reach even greater heights.I only do two working sets when I lift, but I am gassed for minutes after squats. Has anyone had success with reducing rest periods?
I have found that 8 reps of Squat is ideal when I train once a week.
What active recovery are you guys using beyond walking?
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You should probably pray.
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From Arthur Jones:
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@Norwegian-Mugabe thanks for this. Great stuff.
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the HIT meme is refuge of betas who think their super special technique will somehow elevate them past the bro split chuds. the reality is bro split chuds keep on winning.
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I would rather listen to Paul Carter (lifteunbang on IG) than Mentzer advice, if you want to maximise muscle gains. He promotes high intensity, low/ optimal volume, who seems to get it right.
High volume is wrong, but Mentzer was wrong too. The truth is somewhere in the middle.4-6 hard sets per muscle group, to failure, per workout, twice weekly frequently will maximise muscle gains.
That’s like doing 2 exercises per muscle group, in a workout.On a chest and shoulders workout, you’re doing 4-6 sets for chest and 4-6 sets for shoulder. A total of 8-12 sets total for a workout. That’s perfectly sustainable.
4 workouts per week is optimal, maybe 5 if you really love training. 3 if you’re doing for general health and maintenance.
