Race and IQ

Timetravel

shivaflow

@fd Yes and at the end of the day environmental factors drive genetics. Our genes are dynamic and constantly changing in response to whatever inputs are environment give us. And from this point of view, its the ultimate whitepill because it means everything is malleable.

Hitler

@Sugar The average IQ of of a Sub-Saharan African is 71, which, for Whites and Asians, is below the threshold of mental retardation. Even at their phenotypical limit, when they are fully nourished, they hardly break through the 80 IQ barrier. Australian Aborigines have an average IQ of 62, and Bushmen have the average IQ of 55.

No amount of positive environmental or metabolic support can raise the IQ of, say, a Bushman, anywhere the average IQ of the average White or Asian.

Sugar

@fd I agree there's some nuance and that you can become more intelligent in a good metabolic state with the right tools, but I cannot see Africans (60 IQ) jumping 45 IQ points and achieving the same IQ average as Asians (105 IQ) just by fixing their metabolism.

Fructose

@Sugar Yes, and this is largely due to environmental factors

Sugar

@Hitler Yep it's pure cope to believe that Africans could jump 50-70 IQ points and get on the same intelligence level as mildly intelligent whites and asians. The end result is always feeling sorry for people in such a state living amongst the more sophisticated.

FTMarinetti

@Sugar Maybe in a couple of generations? Foreign aid to Africa in the form of progesterone? It's an incredible waste of resources having the african population of over a billion incapable of basic civil living. Peating in Africa is the new frontier...

Adolf_Hitler

If you want to know more about the links between race and IQ you should read my book

FTMarinetti

@NiggerBasher The two projects could go in parallel ways. Of course, a strong European presence in Africa is necessary for such a process to take place. Had only Peat and Ian Smith met..

Hitler

@Adolf_Hitler https://der-fuehrer.org/meinkampf/english/eindex.htm

Dulkadir

@Sugar frequent race bait threads will be the consequence of the new forum containing a bunch of twitter users..
IQ is probably a bad measure of individual intelligence as Ray mentioned, although it may generally work on a population level. But it's not inconceivable how certain environments would prioritize and select for the limited energy & nutrients during pregnancy to be redirected towards certain features such as a robust immune system over brain size or intelligence. Probably certain inherent factors determine the extent to which something gets prioritized over something else so It's doubtful something as simple as increasing energy production in the immediate would have a drastic effect, but could see that working over one or multiple generations. Implying modern day endocrine disruptors, EMF, toxins and vaccines won't cull mankind in the coming decades I think a big part of the developing world w/ better nutrition and ~~indoctrination~~ educational facilities becoming more prevalent and accessible will have higher IQs closer to the mean, although whether that will come with an increase of actual intelligence (instead of the serotonergic number test concept of intelligence we have now) hard to say imo

gugenmungus

@FTMarinetti the solution is for the African population to not be so high....

buckminster

"Racist geneticists to the contrary, there is no
evidence that either intelligence or brain size is genetically
inherited, since acquired changes are heritable, and since
only one protein peculiar to the brain is known, at present.
Other brain-specific proteins will probably be discovered,
but despite a large effort in that direction, there is no hint of
a molecular-genetic basis for "inherited intelligence."
Glucose, hormones, stimulation and other factors
significantly modify brain size and function."
'Mind and Tissue' Ray peat

IQ tests are not widely used in the Soviet Union, since
the IQ is believed merely to reflect the level of social
opportunity (which can be determined in other ways), but
some very interesting studies have been done to determine
the effect of socio-economic status on intelligence. Children
in some asian-USSR towns were given IQ tests in 1929, and
averaged about 35 points below normal. Recently children
in these "retarded" areas were tested, and were found to be
approximately equal in general mental ability to children in
Moscow. In numerical and verbal ability they were slightly
behind the moscovites, but in visual memory and
interpretation of mirror images, they were superior. These
differences are attributed to the continuing differences in
their life situations.
'Mind and Tissue' Ray Peat

FTMarinetti

@gugenmungus Scarcity mindset

Hitler

@buckminster can't get everything right!

gugenmungus

@FTMarinetti do you call your disposition towards your gut bacteria "scarcity mindset"?

Fructose

This post is deleted!

Sugar

@Dulkadir Aren't there African tribes who don't consume any seed oils, have zero EMF, and eat meat, milk, and honey? These should surely be 110+ IQ individuals from their high levels peating.

Terminator

@NiggerBasher

buckminster

Ray's critique of genetics is a central thesis of his work. So much of his ideas are downstream of that conclusion. I'm not sure how folks who disagree can honestly read his work and not get a brain aneurism. The cognitive dissonance must gnaw from your insides.