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Regrowing enamel

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    latin 0
    last edited by Jan 29, 2024, 9:12 PM

    Seems like one of the most confounding problems in medicine. I’m not talking about remineralizing existing enamel, I’m talking about replacing it once it’s gone and the enamel matrix has been destroyed on a part of the tooth.

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      brad @latin 0
      last edited by Jan 29, 2024, 9:14 PM

      @latin-0 I remember Ray saying that he recommends fillings if it gets to that point, though others have suggested a combination of milk, vitamin K2, D, A, and calcium along with keeping a bacteria-free mouth may help.

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        HubblyBubbly @latin 0
        last edited by Jan 29, 2024, 9:41 PM

        @latin-0 So many studies pretty much proving that remineralization is possible. Casein stands out because you don’t have to buy any special products besides milk.

        A substantial literature now exists demonstrating an anticariogenic effect of diary products (milk, milk concentrates, powders and cheeses). This anticariogenic effect has been attributed to the multiphosphoseryl-containing sequences of casein.

        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3220138/

        N’golo talks about this. Leaving a some milk on your teeth overnight to remineralize enamel. And chewing on eggshell powder to fill in deeper cavities.

        We need to add some case studies on this forum of Peaters trying it out.

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          john @latin 0
          last edited by Jan 29, 2024, 9:41 PM

          @latin-0 Its worth checking out the calcium therapy institute and looking into a course of an antibiotic like doxycycline. Additionally, twitter user NgoloTesla has claimed that leaving a coating of milk on teeth and packing any holes or pockets with calcium carbonate or eggshell powder can help.

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            john @john
            last edited by Jan 29, 2024, 9:45 PM

            @john also there's this study demonstrating a 65% reduction in cavity development in rats when supplementing a large amount of glycine daily. I believe it was equivalent to 15 - 20 mg daily for the human equivalent. link

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              max
              last edited by Jan 29, 2024, 9:50 PM

              Similarly, does anyone know anything about reversing gum recession?

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                henkboogaart014 @HubblyBubbly
                last edited by Jan 29, 2024, 10:06 PM

                @HubblyBubbly wont leaving milk on the teeth allow bacteria to grow?

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                  RapexEat @henkboogaart014
                  last edited by Jan 29, 2024, 10:12 PM

                  @henkboogaart014 If you have no food particles stuck on your teeth, then there’s nothing the sugar can feed on. So just make sure ur teeth are clean before

                  𝙰𝚌𝚝 𝚏𝚒𝚛𝚜𝚝, 𝚃𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚔 𝚕𝚊𝚝𝚎𝚛, 𝙿𝚎𝚛𝚌𝚎𝚒𝚟𝚎 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚘𝚞𝚝𝚌𝚘𝚖𝚎.

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                    Lukey @brad
                    last edited by Jan 29, 2024, 10:31 PM

                    @brad fillings made of Eugenol and zinc are nontoxic iirc

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                      HubblyBubbly @henkboogaart014
                      last edited by Jan 29, 2024, 10:38 PM

                      @henkboogaart014 Quite the opposite. Proteins in milk (lactoferrin in particular) inhibit the formation of biofilm, and have many other functions in preventing bacterial overgrowth.

                      This article makes a good case for drinking milk as a tool for dental hygiene.

                      But if bacteria is a problem the bandaid solution would be to raise oral pH to neutralize the lactic acid byproduct of bacterial anaerobic respiration. That + fluoride is basically what mainstream mouthwash achieves anyway.

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                        latin 0 @HubblyBubbly
                        last edited by Jan 29, 2024, 11:36 PM

                        @HubblyBubbly i’m talking about regrowing, not remineralizing enamel. The thinking goes, once the enamel is destroyed, there is no structure for hydroxyapatite to be deposited into.

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                          izkrov @latin 0
                          last edited by Jan 30, 2024, 12:29 AM

                          @latin-0 I've heard Lithium Chloride can help regenerate the dentin itself, maybe it'll work for the enamel
                          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4374937/#=

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                            HubblyBubbly @latin 0
                            last edited by Jan 30, 2024, 10:14 AM

                            @latin-0 the study in my first reply specifically references the remineralization of enamel lesions

                            https://bioenergetic.forum/post/196

                            The idea that enamel is lost forever might just be an industry supported myth to sell more daily prevention products

                            I’m not sure if reversal of total loss of enamel has been studied bc it’s very rare/unlikely. How would that even happen unless it was physically scraped off in addition to being chemically eroded over a long time?

                            If localized tooth sensitivity is the only issue then there’s plenty of people who’ve reversed it.

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                              latin 0 @HubblyBubbly
                              last edited by Jan 31, 2024, 5:10 AM

                              @HubblyBubbly the enamel on the tooth can be destroyed if it is not cleaned and bacteria is left to dissolve it with acid over a long period of time, like in drug addiction or depression when hygiene is not kept, or bulimia.

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                                Cicero
                                last edited by Feb 1, 2024, 1:26 AM

                                Go to the dentist.

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                                  A Former User
                                  last edited by Feb 3, 2024, 8:55 AM

                                  There was a large and compelling study done on Canadian children involving xylitol. From memory, the kids who chewed xylitol gum had something like 85% fewer cavities after one year than the control group.

                                  Can't speak to regrowing enamel, but I have successfully reversed my longstanding bleeding/tender gums through vitamin k and vitamin c. I also think the big fat elephant in the room with dental health is endotoxin and the state of one's gut. Not that a dentist would ever agree.

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                                    shedim @max
                                    last edited by Feb 3, 2024, 2:41 PM

                                    @max Mix water with baking powder and a small amount of turmeric, swish it around for at least 5 mins and then do the oilpulling type of movement (pulling it through teeth) for 3 mins, then do the same with coconut oil after. Almost entirely reversed periodontal bone loss this way.

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                                      Riverdaughter
                                      last edited by Feb 4, 2024, 12:01 AM

                                      Is there a safe way to use calcium hydroxide to remineralize teeth? I’m also fighting receding gums and tooth erosion.

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                                        max @shedim
                                        last edited by Feb 4, 2024, 12:59 AM

                                        @shedim said in Regrowing enamel:

                                        Mix water with baking powder and a small amount of turmeric, swish it around for at least 5 mins and then do the oilpulling type of movement (pulling it through teeth) for 3 mins, then do the same with coconut oil after. Almost entirely reversed periodontal bone loss this way.

                                        Oh wow, great tip. Thank you! Goin to try.

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                                          max @A Former User
                                          last edited by Feb 4, 2024, 1:02 AM

                                          @shedim do you mean baking soda? Or baking powder?

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