RFK Jr. Officially Nominated for HHS Secretary.
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@Rah1woot Dialectical reasoning based on structures of consciousness can be made plainly true. You make a massive assumption then in presuming there is a overarching consciousness that governs the cosmos. The "practice of engineering" is OUR creation within the "Creation." By our creations, the rules of governing logic apply just fine. Creation with a "C" is the begged question for all. Nobody has that answer. And to assume the nature of it "reasoning" is again, hazardous, and faulty. The hazard comes into light when small groups of powerful people believe the corollary of reality is how they see it, where in reality they are pushing that way.
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@bio3nergetic This is not a bad point, but I think your notion of The Creation maps quite well onto Lenin's definition of matter anyways.
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Lysenko represented the truly materialist approach to reality.01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:54.000
Western genetics theory represents the imposed rationalist, reductionist approach to reality.01:28:54.000 --> 01:29:07.000
So the Westernization required knocking out any of the remaining actual materialists.01:29:07.000 --> 01:29:32.000
One of Lenin's best pieces of writing was explaining essentially that the concept of materialism in the West is pure idealism, absolutely the negation of materialism in Lenin's sense.01:29:32.000 --> 01:29:50.000
Lenin said knowledge is composed of memory, but the memories are recordings of experience, and experience is always new.01:29:50.000 --> 01:30:03.000
The source of experience is matter, and so matter is only what is potential to be experienced.01:30:03.000 --> 01:30:28.000
So materialism means looking to the future and the possibilities of experience, where the genetics and reductionists try to base their rationalism on an organization of existing knowledge, pre-existing ideas,01:30:28.000 --> 01:30:35.000
and breaking those down into logical, computable units and so on.01:30:35.000 --> 01:30:57.000
The essence of Lenin's type of materialism is essentially identifying it with the life process, the process of being conscious and having new experience is the process of interacting with the material world.01:30:57.000 --> 01:31:05.000
So this is the same idea as Aristotle's prima matter, the pure potential out of which everything arises.01:31:05.000 --> 01:31:09.000
Yep, creative potential.Perhaps with an added understanding of potentiality, and a discarding of exactly what the life process cannot ultimately come to understand. Which as Peat points out is a big part of Aristotle, his emphasis on Infinity as not actually existing but being mostly a potential.
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@Rah1woot actually thanks for pointing these specific quotes out. IMHO, the use of "dialectical materialism" seems to be a misnomer. I don't argue with potential as "infinity" and as dialectical materialism is defined, I do not argue with either. Interestingly, I think "dialectical" was the wrong term to use! At least from any Hegelian view.
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@bio3nergetic Hm. What to say? I think it makes sense if one takes the root of "dialectics" to be "dialogue" rather than "di" as in two. A dialogue often has two sides, but it can have more. Within the dialogue the number of perspectives hopefully exceeds two as it moves forward in time, otherwise there was nothing developed and it might not be called dialectical. There is a "negatiion of the negation" in Hegelian terms.
I think it is fair to say as you point out that elements of the ruling class attempt to gesture at this to gain a sense of legitimacy. Obama and Hitler are both decent examples of fake revolutionaries who tried to use this as a technology.
But the nature of the true opposition is within Carl Schmitt's war-theory of politics, whose conflict is often ugly and vulgar. And so a current of the actual opposition does inevitably develop, although it is scorned from all established sides and may not even make sense. MAGA is the most potent articulation of this so far. -
I wonder if IdealLabs would be affected at all by anything RFK Jr does
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im a single-issue voter, all I care about is removing seed oils from fryers.
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@Rah1woot Yes and I think they use the momentum of opposition to build upon an ultimate goal; yet another opposing energy: hence the "dialectic." But as with all ontological dilemmas, one is left with a question of tense. From my own perspective, I see this as dialect as artifice. MAGA for example, as a potent articulation is only inevitable, even as independent actors - which goes to my original point of unknowing opposition, however utilized still for the controllers' own advantage ultimately. In other words, it is creating oppositional force that you are still steering in terms of outcome. For me, the outcome being controlling, technocratic, centralized authority. We should keep in mind how bills, laws, and authoritarianism arises from the mantra "for your safety." It gives rise to the perfect opportunity to create control mechanisms through subterfuge.
The fake pandemic of 1918 ushered in new control mechanisms at the time. Right when the hypodermic needle came into the picture, the medical texts changing, and medicine becoming centralized by a powerful group. And that too was for an industrial revolution. The same exact thing is happening again. Convid gives rise to the 4th revolution. All getting there by this ladder of so-called dialectic. The artifice creates necessity. As they sabotage the opposition, that they allowed a platform to begin with, the effects and ruin by that sabotage then also affords them to create laws and such for "own safety." Convid destroyed a lot of momentum during Trump's term. I now only wonder, what will they do next.
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@bio3nergetic Good points. I think if there is any hope it lies in simultaneously hitting the books, so as to benefit from some of the fruits of centralized power (such as knowledge of electricity...), and a fixation towards the real and immediately relevant above all else.
Perhaps it is naive but I think that the real and true will ultimately win by definition. The elites generally never let a good crisis go to waste, but it does not mean that genuine crisis, conflict, and change is not possible.
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@Rah1woot I too hope it is possible. They do have a tendency in stealing real and true will, that is a concern. The usury and discarding of labor, but more importantly, of genius minds. It is a concern. Big Pharma for example you can see do 180's on certain things they were firm about. Why? Because the real and true wills, as you mentioned, are subtly "hi-jacked" and somehow claimed by agents of the controllers. Big Pharma being one. Yes, indeed they seek opportunity within a crisis, that's exactly right. The artifice creating necessity.
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@bio3nergetic how was the 1918 “pandemic” fake? i read accounts from some ppl that chronic illness was elevated for like a decade after. you guys piss me off a little bit, but not really, im not mad, but i know dozens and dozens of people fucked up after wuflu (vaxxed and unvaxxed alike) which i think you also call fake, with all the same weird symptoms during and chronic fatigue syndromes and various things after. like what are you even talking about? clarify what you think is fake. im willing to change my views on things and have done so when finding what i think is correct information or experience, but pardon my french and tell me what the flying fucky you are talking aboot
youre essentially gaslighting people with post viral illnesses just like mainstream doctors did/do saying it is all in their heads. how about i think your opinion is part of the motherfuckin dialectic too? and conveniently lets the makers of a motherfuckin’ lab made virus off the motherfuckin’ hook? huh? how do you like dem apples?
and im someone that went from thinking 9/11 no planers are shizos to reasonably certain there were no motherfuckin’ planes hitting the towers. so im
not resistant to new information or shizo theories. so are you telling me all this stuff people experienced is in their heads? just a normal flu season? what normal motherfuckin’ flu season fucked so many niggas up? are u serious? i never in my life had the weird smell thing from other illnesses that so many people talk about. i know a nigga who took four mothafuckin’ years now almost for his sense of taste to go back to normal. alot of other stuff. the fibrin clots. the hair loss all over the place. etc . just because you didnt experience it doesnt give you the right to tell people it was fake. are you that nigga tankasnowgood from rpf? who constantly denied wuflu exists? i got gaslighted into thinking planes hit the towers, so im thinking did i get gaslighted into smelling raw sewage during wuflu? nah fam. that shite was real. -
“yes thats right goy… the pandemic is fake.. thats right goy..”
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@Rah1woot said in RFK Jr. Officially Nominated for HHS Secretary.:
Just bad that Hitler got poor intelligence fed by UK that Russia would attack Germany and that's why Germany attacked Russia preemptively.
I'll download it but I prefer reading Mein Kampf over it lol.
I am puzzled by this. You are aware that Hitler declares his intent to invade the USSR in Mein Kampf (published in 1925), right? Or did we not read the same Mein Kampf?
I didn't read Mein Kampf yet, but you should realize writing your strategy in a book for all to read is quite stupid is Hitler, and he isn't that.
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@sneedful said in RFK Jr. Officially Nominated for HHS Secretary.:
i know dozens and dozens of people fucked up after...
The hypothyroid (other descriptors are available) talk a lot of shit sneedster. And may quite literally talk themselves or be talked in to in to hospital. Where, miraculously, during that period, ARDS and response to it was redefined and prone to increase mortality (fact). Hell, it might even be possible to talk yourself right in to a mortuary without sharing a word.
I lost someone. The immediately easiest thing to do would have been to take the biscuit on the death certificate. I act like I did sometimes. Many people do that too. Have a nice day.
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@sneedful said in RFK Jr. Officially Nominated for HHS Secretary.:
im willing to change my views on things and have done so when finding what i think is correct information or experience
Are you though "nigga".
just a normal flu season? what normal motherfuckin’ flu season fucked so many niggas up? are u serious?
Are you stupid.
the fibrin clots.
The ones on youtube or the ones in vent protocol survivors.
i never in my life had the weird smell thing from other illnesses that so many people talk about. i know a nigga who took four mothafuckin’ years now almost for his sense of taste to go back to normal. alot of other stuff. the hair loss all over the place. etc .
Use sci-hub and turn over the "spike"/med MOA. Read through the RRAS hair loss thread on RPF and turn over the sources. Keep going. Do not stop. It's quite an important "system". And the stress of you reading this is moving it in you right now.
