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    • MossyM Offline
      Mossy @CrumblingCookie
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      @CrumblingCookie said in Random, interesting studies:

      I have scoured the interwebs and found that buying sodium bicarb supplements in excipient-free, stomach-acid-resistant HPMC+gellan or HPMC-pectin capsules can cost "as little" as the same quantity of empty enteric capsules for a capsule filler at home.

      Great info. Thank you!

      "To desire action is to desire limitation" — G. K. Chesterton
      "The true step of health and improvement is slow." — Novalis

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        Ena @DavidPS
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        [bicarbonate of potassium or sodium]

        Thanks @DavidPS and @CrumblingCookie.
        I'll skip the baking soda from now on ...

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          Mauritio @dapose
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          @dapose said in Random, interesting studies:

          I’m using Boswellia every night before bed with baking soda and glycine water. Most consistent vivid dreams I’ve had as an adult!
          It’s a COX enzyme blocker, very good anti inflammatory for me.

          Nice! Do you notice any hormonal or metabolic effects from it ?

          Dare to think.

          My X:
          x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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            CrumblingCookie @CrumblingCookie
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            @mossy @ena
            Enteric HPMC+gellan capsules work well for encapsulating bicarbonate.
            The pectin coating of enteric HPMC+pectin capsules, however, reacts with (potassium) bicarbonate, discolours it and their purpose of reliable stomach-resistance fails. I've found that out myself. Don't use the capsules with pectin-coating.

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              dapose @LucH
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              @LucH Merci Beaucoup! This is very interesting strategy you and your AI has come up with! But how long to alternate between M1 and M2 states? Does a guy just skip baking soda every other day? Or more like load up for one week then stop for a week? Or should it be more intuitive like reading the weather or the environment, like if I eat out and get stay up too late, I should be in defense mode, and then if things are running smooth and I feel good and happy, I go into repair mode… ?
              Does this M1/M2 thinking ably to aspirin as well?
              Thanks again. Very interesting

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                dapose @Mauritio
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                @Mauritio said in Random, interesting studies:

                @dapose said in Random, interesting studies:

                I’m using Boswellia every night before bed with baking soda and glycine water. Most consistent vivid dreams I’ve had as an adult!
                It’s a COX enzyme blocker, very good anti inflammatory for me.

                Nice! Do you notice any hormonal or metabolic effects from it ?

                Nothing too specific on hormonal or metabolic front. But I’ve gone on and off Boswellia a few times and it without a doubt makes dreams more vivid and way more memorable for me.

                A side not… I recently started taking Gonadin by Idealabs (first time and for about a week) I read every single comment on the old RPF for Georgi’s thread and I saw your name pop up a few times in that thread. Did you like taking Gonadin? Are you still using it to any regularity? And specifically the newest version of it…
                peace!

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                  Mauritio @dapose
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                  @dapose I started taking frankincense too. The range of benefits is just too wide to ignore.

                  I don't take Gonadin anymore. I think the old one was better and had some really interesting chemicals like Diosgenin or phytol in it.
                  The new one makes me robotic.

                  Dare to think.

                  My X:
                  x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                    dapose @Mauritio
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                    @Mauritio yeah it seemed from that long thread that everyone was liking phytol and had definite productive responses to it… couldn’t tell why that needed to be changed. I’ll see how the new one goes. I really like the taste of the passionflower extract azf.

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                      CrumblingCookie @CrumblingCookie
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                      A Comparison of Sodium Citrate and Sodium Bicarbonate Ingestion: Blood Alkalosis and Gastrointestinal Symptoms, 2022

                      500mg/KG BW sodium citrate (SC) is about equally effective as 300mg/KG BW sodium bicarbonate (SB) in raising blood pH and blood HCO3- in healthy people.
                      The increase in the SC group however took about 1h longer to set in and also lasted for longer than the SB:
                      full-ijsnem.2022-0083figuref1.jpg

                      I'd say give the citrates a try for simplicity although in this study, the gastrointestinal side effects/complaints were comparable between SC (~35g!) and uncoated SB (~21g!).
                      Whilst the SC also does meddle with stomach pH, it won't react to CO2 (burping, flatulence).
                      The release of HCO3- from citrate happens indirectly through liver tricyclic-acid metabolism.

                      And of course use potassium citrate or a citrates blend instead of the sodium salt.

                      @mossy @ena There are several online suppliers of potassium citrate capsules (~1110mg per capsule, whereof 400mg K) as an affordable alternative to buying the pure powder and dissolving a teaspoon in water two times a day.

                      10grs of potassium citrate contain about 3.6grs K, 10grs of potassium bicarbonate ~3.9grs K.
                      Although the same amount (by weight) of citrate is not as effective as bicarbonate, on a regular daily basis I think one can shift between using either.

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                        Ena @CrumblingCookie
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                        Thank you @CrumblingCookie. Good information. But I see no financial advantage in citrate, here in the UK potassium citrate powder costs £14/kg and potassium bicarbonate £4/kg.

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