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    Corngold
    last edited by Jan 1, 2025, 4:49 AM

    Does anyone ever chew cinnamon stick?

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      LucH
      last edited by LucH Jan 1, 2025, 8:48 AM Jan 1, 2025, 8:28 AM

      @Corngold said in Cinnamon:

      Does anyone ever chew cinnamon stick?

      Why would I do that?
      Short answer:

      • Ceylan cannelle, OK.
      • No more than a tsp cannelle powder, not every day.
        => impact on liver and glycemia.
      • coumarine and methylhydroxychalcone (MHC)
        The water-soluble polyphenol methylhydroxychalcone (MHCP) is an insulin-like substance. It works in synergy with it inside the cells to eliminate excess glucose in the blood. Rather good but it's an analog of insulin ...

      If you want more details, I have Info.

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        Corngold @LucH
        last edited by Jan 1, 2025, 1:45 PM

        @LucH said in Cinnamon:

        @Corngold said in Cinnamon:

        Does anyone ever chew cinnamon stick?

        Why would I do that?
        Short answer:

        • Ceylan cannelle, OK.
        • No more than a tsp cannelle powder, not every day.
          => impact on liver and glycemia.
        • coumarine and methylhydroxychalcone (MHC)
          The water-soluble polyphenol methylhydroxychalcone (MHCP) is an insulin-like substance. It works in synergy with it inside the cells to eliminate excess glucose in the blood. Rather good but it's an analog of insulin ...

        If you want more details, I have Info.

        Interesting. I don't know but it's nice and tingly on the teeth. Is it a good impact on liver?

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          LucH @Corngold
          last edited by Jan 1, 2025, 2:20 PM

          @Corngold said in Cinnamon:

          Is it a good impact on liver?

          Well, I won't formulate so.
          cinnamon polyphenols are mighty. Powerful antibacterial as essential oil.
          But too much of a good thing is bad.
          Why? Impact on microflora, on insulin, liver and perhaps blood fluidity.
          Not a problem if you don't overdrive.
          The limit not to overdrive is between 1/4 and one tsp powder Ceylan cinnamon, provided you metabolize well (liver and kidneys). Of course, one week stop / month.

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            Corngold @LucH
            last edited by Jan 1, 2025, 2:40 PM

            @LucH
            Yeah my stomach and chest are tight after accidentally ingesting a few small pieces. Also feeling energized though.

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              LucH @Corngold
              last edited by Jan 1, 2025, 3:22 PM

              @Corngold said in Cinnamon:

              Also feeling energized though.

              adrenalin impulse. Like other serotoninergic substances. Can be accustomed if ...

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                Corngold @LucH
                last edited by Jan 1, 2025, 6:26 PM

                @LucH
                Interesting. I usually only add a dash to a coffee or sweet and not daily. This was surprising.

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                  wrl @LucH
                  last edited by wrl Jan 1, 2025, 9:07 PM Jan 1, 2025, 9:05 PM

                  @LucH
                  The active called cinnamaldehyde is adrenergic and activates TRPA1 a heat "receptor". Cinnamaldehyde is similar in shape to amphetamine and phenethylamine, two CNS stimulants.

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                    Corngold @wrl
                    last edited by Jan 1, 2025, 9:17 PM

                    @wrl now we're getting somewhere. I think I'm waiting for the irritation to subside. Going to be more careful lmao.

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                      LucH @wrl
                      last edited by Jan 1, 2025, 9:47 PM

                      @wrl said in Cinnamon:

                      The active called cinnamaldehyde is adrenergic and activates TRPA1 a heat "receptor". Cinnamaldehyde is similar in shape to amphetamine and phenethylamine, two CNS stimulants.

                      Thanks for detailed explanation. 👍

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                        wrl @Corngold
                        last edited by Jan 2, 2025, 12:20 AM

                        @Corngold you can probably guess menthol has the opposite effect!

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                          Corngold @wrl
                          last edited by Jan 2, 2025, 1:50 AM

                          @wrl

                          Yeah, I guess menthol is cooling but I thought it was also pro-serotonin and estrogen?

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                            wrl @Corngold
                            last edited by Jan 2, 2025, 12:11 PM

                            @Corngold see https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/use-avoidance-of-herbs-essential-oils-plant-extracts.10065/#post-496290

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                              Corngold @wrl
                              last edited by Jan 2, 2025, 4:16 PM

                              @wrl funny enough Nicole had the right idea in that thread...I agree with it, I'm done with obsessing about foods but it's still interesting to think about.

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                                DavidPS
                                last edited by Jan 3, 2025, 5:57 PM

                                The article from the Towsend Letter found different responses when the cinnamon was taken in capsules or in water.

                                Cinnamon: Postprandial Hyperglycemia Suppression

                                ““Effective health care depends on self-care” - Ivan Illich, 👀
                                ☂️

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                                  Corngold @DavidPS
                                  last edited by Jan 5, 2025, 4:34 AM

                                  @DavidPS

                                  Interesting. I think I'm going to be pretty careful with it. I've never noticed anything from regular ground cinnamon on food, maybe it's degraded or low quality. I Also don't trust the bark but in cider or a liquid it's never bothered me.

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                                    LucH @Corngold
                                    last edited by Jan 5, 2025, 7:18 AM

                                    @Corngold said in Cinnamon:

                                    maybe it's degraded or low quality.

                                    Some "cheap" sticks could already have been used. A $2 box of sticks should arouse suspicion. Poor level antioxidant ...
                                    And mind the kind if it smells too little (Chinese one is cassia type))
                                    True cinnamon is more tan-brown in color, while cassia has a reddish-brown hue. And if you open the package and find a smell that's not exactly pungent, that's a good thing. True cinnamon is delicate and sweet, creating a subtle flavor while not overpowering the rest of your ingredients.
                                    To choose the right kind (Ceylan)
                                    True cinnamon is more tan-brown in color, while cassia has a reddish-brown hue. And if you open the package and find a smell that's not exactly pungent, that's a good thing. True cinnamon is delicate and sweet, creating a subtle flavor while not overpowering the rest of your ingredients.
                                    https://www.eatingwell.com/article/7878464/how-to-tell-if-cinnamon-is-fake/

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                                      Mossy @LucH
                                      last edited by Mossy Jan 5, 2025, 7:42 AM Jan 5, 2025, 7:41 AM

                                      @LucH said in Cinnamon:

                                      Ceylan cannelle

                                      Do you have any thoughts on the supposed high contaminant content of Ceylon cinnamon? I've referenced this link before, and I'm not so short-sighted as to assume it's 100% correct, and that there's not more variables to be considered, but I'm also open to the thought that contaminants are rampant in our highly industrialized society. According to this, there is not one brand of Ceylon cinnamon that passes muster, only Cassia:
                                      https://www.mamavation.com/food/cinnamon-lead-cadmium-glyphosate.html

                                      "To desire action is to desire limitation" — G. K. Chesterton
                                      "The true step of health and improvement is slow." — Novalis

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                                        LucH @Mossy
                                        last edited by Jan 5, 2025, 8:47 AM

                                        @Mossy said in Cinnamon:

                                        Do you have any thoughts on the supposed high contaminant content of Ceylon cinnamon?

                                        Cinnamon contaminated
                                        When the ground is polluted by « fog » (coming from industrial arrays) you find heavy metals like lead / cadmium (industrial arrays + cars). Or arsenic in some rice if ...
                                        No food should contain more than 10 ppm HM for the whole stuff, 5 ppm per HM, and no more than 1 ppm for mercury. When the body is reached by mercury, you can’t cure from an immune pathology.
                                        Save sources of cannelle sticks / powders
                                        CR (ConsumerReports.org) did find several cinnamon products that are good options for consumers. The six posing the lowest risk in our tests are 365 Whole Foods Market Ground Cinnamon, 365 Whole Foods Market Organic Ground Cinnamon, Loisa Organic Cinnamon, Morton & Bassett San Francisco Organic Ground Cinnamon, Sadaf Cinnamon Powder, and Sadaf Seven Spice blend.
                                        https://www.consumerreports.org/health/food-contaminants/high-lead-levels-in-cinnamon-powders-and-spice-mixtures-a4542246475/
                                        Brands not to use on the link.

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                                          Mossy @LucH
                                          last edited by Jan 6, 2025, 8:57 AM

                                          @LucH
                                          Thank you for the list. I see there is only a single Ceylon option, and it is in the "Okay" category. I think Ceylon tastes better than Cassia, but for now I'm going with the 365 Whole Foods Cassia, due to lower lead and contaminants.

                                          "To desire action is to desire limitation" — G. K. Chesterton
                                          "The true step of health and improvement is slow." — Novalis

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