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    alfredoolivas @ThinPicking
    last edited by alfredoolivas Apr 16, 2025, 4:28 PM Apr 16, 2025, 4:26 PM

    @ThinPicking Hell, even restrict the amount of comments and posts an account can make within the first 2 hours of creation!

    The most notorious spam accounts will create all their spam within an hour and never login again afterwards.

    195cef24-e0b6-454e-8738-848528041526-image.png

    For example, yori007 was created, made a bunch of mess within the first hour of creation, and didn't log back in after the first hour

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      Luke
      last edited by Apr 17, 2025, 8:24 AM

      I sense a little emphasis on machines here.

      I've never been a big party attender, but I never went to a party where I didn't probably offend most of the people there by talking about what I was interested in. (Ray Peat)

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        ThinPicking @Luke
        last edited by Apr 17, 2025, 8:56 AM

        It's quite fascinating really. This. This is the plan apparently.

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          ThinPicking @alfredoolivas
          last edited by Apr 17, 2025, 8:58 AM

          @alfredoolivas said in What's up with all the spam posts?:

          The laziness is insane.

          Laziness or aversion to actual speech. Even that which is written and 'anon'.

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            DavidPS
            last edited by DavidPS Apr 17, 2025, 10:17 AM Apr 17, 2025, 10:08 AM

            Well, it looks like the admin team has been busy banning new users. 8 new users (by my quick count) were banned within a few hours. Thank you.
            https://bioenergetic.forum/users

            The spamsters seem intent on being mischievous.

            I am wondering to myself if (or how) the situation will escalate.

            You can catch more flies with honey than vinegar. 👀
            ☂️

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              DavidPS @alfredoolivas
              last edited by Apr 17, 2025, 10:21 AM

              @alfredoolivas said in What's up with all the spam posts?:

              and didn't log back in after the first hour

              The account may have been quickly banned to prevent them from creating additional new posts.

              You can catch more flies with honey than vinegar. 👀
              ☂️

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                brad @DavidPS
                last edited by Apr 25, 2025, 3:18 AM

                I added a few anti-spam provisions.

                1. CAPTCHA for new users. (Not sure if this worked.)
                2. New users have their posts placed in a queue requiring manual approval before they're posted to the main page. This can be avoided if you confirm your email address or get 2 "reputation" points (still not quite sure what those are).

                Let me know if this helps. Will roll them back if unpopular.

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                  Kilgore @brad
                  last edited by Kilgore Apr 25, 2025, 6:40 AM Apr 25, 2025, 6:26 AM

                  @brad said in What's up with all the spam posts?:

                  New users have their posts placed in a queue requiring manual approval before they're posted to the main page. This can be avoided if you confirm your email address or get 2 "reputation" points (still not quite sure what those are).

                  The reputation points are upvotes.

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                    NoeticJuice @brad
                    last edited by NoeticJuice Apr 25, 2025, 7:14 AM Apr 25, 2025, 6:53 AM

                    @brad said in What's up with all the spam posts?:

                    "reputation" points

                    I don't think this is beneficial. Being able to vote on posts can further discourage people from posting things that go against consensus. But those very same posts can promote learning and lead to interesting and beneficial discoveries, even if the content of those posts are inaccurate.

                    "We must remember that the only instrument of investigation we possess is our mind . . . The quality and condition of the telescope govern the observation resulting from its use. If there is dust on our lens, we see dark spots in the heavens."

                    🎧🎶24/7

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                      ThinPicking @Kilgore
                      last edited by Apr 25, 2025, 8:59 AM

                      Upvoted.

                      I'm here for the downvotes.

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                        ThinPicking @NoeticJuice
                        last edited by Apr 25, 2025, 9:01 AM

                        Agreed. Upvoted.

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                          DavidPS
                          last edited by DavidPS Apr 25, 2025, 11:29 AM Apr 25, 2025, 11:29 AM

                          I am good with the anti-spam provisions that have been added. Let's wait and see how it goes.

                          You can catch more flies with honey than vinegar. 👀
                          ☂️

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                            ThinPicking @DavidPS
                            last edited by Apr 25, 2025, 11:42 AM

                            👍 🔺 📈

                            Eastbots in a state of utter confusion.

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                              Kilgore
                              last edited by Apr 25, 2025, 5:16 PM

                              you love to see it:
                              Screenshot_2025-04-25_10-14-57.jpg

                              Screenshot_2025-04-25_10-15-16.jpg

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                                brad @NoeticJuice
                                last edited by Apr 27, 2025, 3:16 AM

                                @NoeticJuice I actually agree with this sentiment. While the "reputation" feature is necessary for anti-spam, I've added some custom css to hide the vote count. If people demand votes come back then I'll consider it but I don't want some implicit popularity metric aside people's posts. This isn't Reddit.

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                                  LucH @brad
                                  last edited by Apr 27, 2025, 5:52 AM

                                  @brad said in What's up with all the spam posts?:

                                  I don't want some implicit popularity metric aside people's posts. This isn't Reddit.

                                  Fine. I appreciate.

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                                    NoeticJuice @brad
                                    last edited by NoeticJuice Apr 28, 2025, 8:16 PM Apr 27, 2025, 6:41 AM

                                    @brad votes still change users' reputation. Would it be possible to hide that as well?

                                    Notifications about upvotes and downvotes can also influence people.

                                    "We must remember that the only instrument of investigation we possess is our mind . . . The quality and condition of the telescope govern the observation resulting from its use. If there is dust on our lens, we see dark spots in the heavens."

                                    🎧🎶24/7

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                                      lobotomize-me
                                      last edited by lobotomize-me Apr 27, 2025, 10:33 AM Apr 27, 2025, 10:32 AM

                                      Cloudflare recently announced that they are trying to confuse AI scrapers with random fact websites. I don't know if this is related, but it is something to look into if this website uses them as a provider

                                      https://blog.cloudflare.com/ai-labyrinth/

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                                        ThinPicking @lobotomize-me
                                        last edited by Apr 27, 2025, 3:05 PM

                                        Based cloudflare.

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                                          Kvirion @NoeticJuice
                                          last edited by Apr 28, 2025, 8:30 PM

                                          @NoeticJuice said in What's up with all the spam posts?:

                                          Notifications about upvotes and downvotes can also influence people.

                                          Yes, for example, I turned off upvote/downvote notifications for my posts in settings, trying to stop my vanity from interfering with my own opinions 😉

                                          On the other hand, upvoting is an easy way to say "thank you" or "I agree" without writing an extra post just for that...

                                          A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
                                          Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
                                          There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
                                          And drinking largely sobers us again.
                                          ~Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism

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