Dismantling Charlie's words and deeds on the "raypeat "forum and here
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@C-Mex surely there’s a case for Ray’s next-of-kin, Charlie is clearly profiting off of Ray’s reputation - and there’s written evidence of Ray’s disapproval
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B brad moved this topic from Bioenergetics Discussion on
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it seems like charlie is trying to sellout for a potential supplement before he is finally done with this forum. Just look at the forum page with yellow banners, trying desperately to prove something about his toxin diet.
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@mostlylurking as well, welcome!
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@C-Mex
A case could probably be made to ICANN right now but there'd be lawyers and cost. Probably no need though. This forum could displace it in search results quite easily.
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How many testimonials of people feeling great after a year of veganism ? year of carnivor ? year of 0 carbs ? year of fasting ?
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@ThinPicking Thanks! I'm so glad to be here!!
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His religious convictions obviously enable him to believe all sorts of other insane things (Qanon, moronic political stuff, fad health ideas) and behave reprehensibly without ever admitting he's wrong or even pausing for self reflection. He's been called out for making money off Ray's name while disrespecting him time and time again, particularly by other christians. As a legit fundamentalist he doesn't care though.
It's no coincidence a lot of the 'vitamin is poison' crowd are fundy christians. They've simply transferred their religious desire to purge 'evil' onto a new health fad that revolves around avoiding/ridding themselves of anything they label toxic. It's all satan to them. It's OCD dieting driven by religious fanaticism.
If he a shred of decency or humility he'd change the name of the forum, he's had years to do it. But he obviously just sees Ray's name and the postings of other people there as a potential commodity to be exploited. It was so telling when he welcomed Mercola into his forum, the amateur conman wanted to learn from the profession conman.
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@Regina I liked your reading your posts, hope you hang around here too!
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Observe the way he is using literraly anything that is happening that and that Ray and Georgi were aware for decades to push his own theory. "oh Georgi just discovered B thing is that a coincidence ?" while Georgi was already posting about B3 and B1 being highly cancer killer.
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@Hando-Jin Yep, can't agree more.
He also seems unable to grasp Ray's holistic/context-dependent scientific method...
Probably Charlie can only perceive reality as a black/white reductionistic dichotomy. -
These are strange times. And this person has no idea he's on the wrong side of them. To be continued...
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I do not feel any anger towards Charlie. It is just sad that people favour profit over truth and justice. I also think we owe Brad a thanks for creating this forum.
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@Harlock He's getting more delusional by the day. Wtf even is the "low vitamin A low toxin movement"? A few people on twitter that have been conned by GS? I'm looking forward to the end of this saga because it can't possibly end well.
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@sphenoid Maybe he is thinking, that he's leading a holly crusade against VA... and he will save the whole of humanity and become a hero for eternity
Or it's all about money...
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He always struck me as one of those classic RP Forum users who flits from one thing to the next, and each time he is convinced he's found THE answer, and makes a long-winded, definitive post proclaiming x is bad and y is good, and his whole life has changed as a result. Then a week later, y is bad and z is the holy grail.
He is a genuinely terrible administrator and the Christian stuff is so deeply at odds with Ray Peat. It's a shame because that forum is actually the most incredible treasure trove of info going back years. (God bless the soul who created a mirror!)
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@Truth I had to chuckle when reading that he eats 4 apples and 3 banans per day, while being anti-fructose.
I am pro fructose and dont eat that much fruit.
The toxic bile movement is interesting, mostly because it brings more attention to the gallbladder and bile. I have been reading a lot about it these past months and discovered that it seems to be an "upstream" thing that affects many downstream issues.
Like the FX-receptor (bile acid receptor) is as interesting as it gets in terms of receptors. The whole "X" family (FXR,PXR, RXR,LXR) of receptors is really worth looking into. Ironically Vitamin A activates the RXR, which is good for liver health.
Dare to think.
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@BlueMeth A few years ago he was convinced B2 and B3 supplementation cures every gut issue IF you only take it long enough.
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@BlueMeth said in Dismantling Charlie's words and deeds on the "raypeat "forum and here:
He always struck me as one of those classic RP Forum users who flits from one thing to the next, and each time he is convinced he's found THE answer, and makes a long-winded, definitive post proclaiming x is bad and y is good, and his whole life has changed as a result. Then a week later, y is bad and z is the holy grail.
He is a genuinely terrible administrator and the Christian stuff is so deeply at odds with Ray Peat. It's a shame because that forum is actually the most incredible treasure trove of info going back years. (God bless the soul who created a mirror!)
Could you share the mirror’s link?
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@Mauritio Hi, Charlie is even in a cognitive dissonance where he says "yes fructose is a poison, the benefits of potassium in bananas and fiber in apples outweight the poisonous effects of fructose"
Perceiving things in terms of "POISON" and non poison, is sub-optimal, it cultivates a higher degree of confusion, of fear of experimenting with things that would be beneficial to us, of "orthorexia", of being influenced by influencers who are in sub-optimal health and energy themselves and who make emotional claims that lack experience and discernment.
"Fructose", "vitamin A" are names given to theoretical fictional elements that we have potentially never experienced, we eat foods and potentially take supplements, which allegedly contain these elements, believing in the effects that are attributed to these theoretical fictional elements, believing that these effects are absolute and/or applicable in the majority of cases, can commonly contribute to limiting our experimentation and going against our instincts, and therefore limiting and/or having a negative impact on our health
For fun, in other words, "fructose" and "vitamin A" don't exist
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@BlueMeth Hi, That's what it is in part, i suggest that it's not his fault, a degree of energy and health not high enough, increases our propensity for sub-optimal ideas to enter us, remain there, and influence us, because they have aroused certain emotions, negative emotions that we can take a long time to free ourselves from until we reach a high enough degree of energy
Some of his beliefs, which he associates with religion and/or Christianity, seem to be at least partly cultivated by these lingering negative emotions
we can free ourselves from these lingering negative emotions very, very quickly if we eat what is optimal for us
