Did you replace Dr. Ray Peat after he died or are you living gurulessly? (pls include serviceable rayplacements)
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I'd rather not follow any guru. Instead, I prefer to use my own judgement, and work on improving the quality of my judgement. After all, how could anyone other than myself know my full context?
Listening to others can still be very useful, as it gives you more information to work with.
"We must remember that the only instrument of investigation we possess is our mind . . . The quality and condition of the telescope govern the observation resulting from its use. If there is dust on our lens, we see dark spots in the heavens."
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@Corngold said in Did you replace Dr. Ray Peat after he died or are you living gurulessly? (pls include serviceable rayplacements):
@natureman finally. I knew it! Raymumdo PĆ©ata is alive and well in Mexico!
I choose to believe in this narrativeā¦
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If Ray Peat is still alive, heās not hiding. Heās helping people that speak most likely a different language than English and heās helping people that donāt own computers and theyāre helping him as much as heās helping them. We live in a pretty sick (dying?) culture in the west. I mean I like it butā¦ getting rough. I am super hopeful for some of the young Bioenergetic people popping up in podcasts and in txitter. Ray once said something like most people arenāt any smarter than when they are 9years old. I mean heās talking about ability to learn at an incredible rate etc. (I think it was a politics and science episode on progesterone)
So if someone wants a new guru, I would consider the young people coming up in this space. They are synergizing relevant data and experience exponentially faster than the good old doctors on YouTube. Dr. Dinosaurs! Cranking out health books that are out of date and incorrect by the time they hit bookstore shelves. The old are filled with bad ideas, poor ability to communicate and a lifetime of Pufa. Confused because theyāve tried everything and everything hasnāt worked. Young people are sicker than ever but some of them are trying to do literally whatever they can to get healthy and trying crazy shit like listening to Ray Peat!! And getting healthy!!! Whoa! And then they really gain lived experience or wisdom! Wow! You donāt have to be old to have wisdom you need experienceās.
Iāll end this weird rant with this, my favorite people are older and in their 70ās. I love love love older people! There is obviously tons to learn from them. Iām a gardener and they truly do have the wisdom that is almost lost. But they are rigid, inflexible, bad at adapting, not doing well. Everything on their bodies hurts and they canāt remember what they were trying to get better. They donāt know what to eat. They canāt sleep.
We need lots of gurus. All deferent kinds. Cuz we got lots of problems on lots of levels. And we shouldnāt be afraid to look to young people for help. And I donāt mean the obvious dipshit mouth breather signing up to be a nurse with straight Aās. Rebels! People that are pissed off at how fucked everything is.
Well those are my gurus! Ha!
Whereās Haidut when you need him?
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looks like typical 'healthy eating girl diet'. It would explain her blandness.
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Kathleen Stewart sounds like she has the typical engineer's approach to biology. Don't rate her at all. T3 uncoupled has a strange preoccupation with seeing everything through a romantic lens. I think it might be a neurosis, wanting to gain more adoration from women.
The contemporary western personality is neurotic/retard. Upon reflection the only one I like is Georgi now. I imagine the Bulgarians didn't do as much infant jabbing as westerners, leading to better personalities.
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@Hando-Jin said in Did you replace Dr. Ray Peat after he died or are you living gurulessly? (pls include serviceable rayplacements):
The contemporary western personality is neurotic/retard. Upon reflection the only one I like is Georgi now. I imagine the Bulgarians didn't do as much infant jabbing as westerners, leading to better personalities.
Jabbing will definitely do that. But if we were all haydut's you probably wouldn't like the outcome either.
Somebody, somewhere. Whoever is responsible for this, probably knows exactly what they're doing. It's difficult not to be pissed about it but there's an irony in that too.
Game's up anyway. I'd sooner tolerate carbon tracking on a blockchain than another attempt to mainline a behavioural mod to people who wouldn't.
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@Hando-Jin DO NOT
disparage Kathleen here . WE RESPECT women at bioenergetic dot forum. if YOU want to attack a woman you'll have to GO through me, FIRST.
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Another male feminist on the forum. I thought I was the only one.
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@ThinPicking said in Did you replace Dr. Ray Peat after he died or are you living gurulessly? (pls include serviceable rayplacements):
@Hando-Jin said in Did you replace Dr. Ray Peat after he died or are you living gurulessly? (pls include serviceable rayplacements):
Somebody, somewhere. Whoever is responsible for this, probably knows exactly what they're doing.
Do you think it's always been that way? I have a feeling it might have been.
I assume it's scientists working in the deep recesses of the defence sector. People who work on poisons.
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I think the Analyze and Optimize guys are very good too
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@natureman Good point!
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For me, Dr. Peat remains irreplaceable. However, my monkey mind is always looking for other sources of reliable information. I do not expect that a single induvial will be able to replace him.
Dr. Anthony Jay, author of Estrogeneration: How Estrogenics Are Making You Fat, Sick, and Infertile, is one such induvial who would be on the replacement team. He posted a new YouTube video today which I found to be both provocative and entertaining.
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@Hando-Jin said in Did you replace Dr. Ray Peat after he died or are you living gurulessly? (pls include serviceable rayplacements):
looks like typical 'healthy eating girl diet'. It would explain her blandness.
She's preoccupied with being taken seriously.
Considering her a guru would be like considering at teenage US President and I don't feel bad mentioning this because there are worse things than not being 86
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@DavidPS said in Did you replace Dr. Ray Peat after he died or are you living gurulessly? (pls include serviceable rayplacements):
For me, Dr. Peat remains irreplaceable. However, my monkey mind is always looking for other sources of reliable information. I do not expect that a single induvial will be able to replace him.
Dr. Anthony Jay, author of Estrogeneration: How Estrogenics Are Making You Fat, Sick, and Infertile, is one such induvial who would be on the replacement team. He posted a new YouTube video today which I found to be both provocative and entertaining.
I can't argue with anything. He doesn't capture the persona but he has things to offer.
He's well educated in the topics he's discussing if I recall.
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@NoeticJuice said in Did you replace Dr. Ray Peat after he died or are you living gurulessly? (pls include serviceable rayplacements):
I'd rather not follow any guru. Instead, I prefer to use my own judgement, and work on improving the quality of my judgement. After all, how could anyone other than myself know my full context?
Listening to others can still be very useful, as it gives you more information to work with.
Good attitude, but not for everyone here as not everyone can think for themselves, and not everyone is willing and able to learn Ray Peat's essense, as evidenced by the many posters here and there on the other side- who evidently haven't internalized Ray's ideas and give advices that are neither Peaty nor bioenergetic.
If they did, we would be having members reporting daily or weekly or even just monthly on their progress , if just in losing weight alone. Most lack enough knowledge that is available to them if they read Peat more and begin to connect the dots and apply to themselves what they really learned.
And even more would rather embrace the instant gratification of taking drugs that give instant results (the heck with side effects) than have the patience to take necessary steps to transform themselves slowly over time. It is ingrained in the culture, it is kinda hopeless expecting people to realize this because they have been programmed and conditioned this way.
What makes it hard also is there is no support group here that can find common ground that Rome wasn't built in a day, so those who choose the long and hard but effective way will need to take the lonely process of building one's metabolic health.
And no, Ray Peat is irreplaceable. There are plenty of talking heads, but they are more flawed than Ray Peat, as they have more knowledge gaps in them than he does. And a lot of them are a cross between Peat and Asprey, and that's not saying much good considering than Ray himself have an openness to using antibiotics and to pharma drugs such as acetazolamide that the apex Peatepr would not need. But Ray has that license I guess, as he can get weary on how bad programming and conditioning dies hard, and for most people that like short easily digestible answers a doctor's typical approach is the only sane way to get rid of them like "take this drug and tomorrow you'll be free as a bird."
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@herenow said in Did you replace Dr. Ray Peat after he died or are you living gurulessly? (pls include serviceable rayplacements):
@DavidPS said in Did you replace Dr. Ray Peat after he died or are you living gurulessly? (pls include serviceable rayplacements):
For me, Dr. Peat remains irreplaceable. However, my monkey mind is always looking for other sources of reliable information. I do not expect that a single induvial will be able to replace him.
Dr. Anthony Jay, author of Estrogeneration: How Estrogenics Are Making You Fat, Sick, and Infertile, is one such induvial who would be on the replacement team. He posted a new YouTube video today which I found to be both provocative and entertaining.
I can't argue with anything. He doesn't capture the persona but he has things to offer.
He's well educated in the topics he's discussing if I recall.
I stand by my previous assessment and he is welcome on my roster however he does look strangely similar to the Quagmire character from Family Guy and it's throwing off my system just a little.
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An artistic rendering of Dr. Peat. (not mine)
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update:
Anthony Jay Phd is only 40 years old according to my research team. I had him pegged for late 50s and didn't bother checking. That's on me but in my defense he gives off a very mature vibe.Glenn Quagmire is 61 years old according to his driver's license in the episode "FOX-y Lady." However, he often appears younger due to his lifestyle choices, such as eating a lot of carrots.
Professor Farnsworth is 160 years old in "Futurama," although his age has varied throughout the series due to various plot points. He is considered one of the oldest living humans in the show.
