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    A Former User @Regina
    last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 04:11

    @Regina call it the garrettsmithforum lol

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      Regina @ilovethesea
      last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 04:17

      @ilovethesea It should be signed Tedros Ghebreyesus.

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      • bradB
        brad @A Former User
        last edited by brad 20 Feb 2024, 04:18

        @AltarandThrone Someone (not me) bought https://toxicbileforum.com/ and redirected it...

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          Regina @sphenoid
          last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 04:20

          @sphenoid A stalker and a snitch throwing stones.

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          • yerragY
            yerrag @S.Holmes
            last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 04:27

            @S-Holmes You got that right !

            Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
            engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
            wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
            the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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              saturnuscv
              last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 04:29

              IMG_9136.jpeg

              It is done.

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              • yerragY
                yerrag @brightside
                last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 04:30

                @brightside said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                Speaking of signatures, yours made me chuckle. I like it.

                Haha, just what the doctor ordered!

                Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                • yerragY
                  yerrag @saturnuscv
                  last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 04:33

                  @saturnuscv

                  Marvelous!

                  How Old Testamenty of you.

                  Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                  engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                  wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                  the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                    A Former User @saturnuscv
                    last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 04:39

                    @saturnuscv hahahaa yes

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                      saturnuscv
                      last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 05:48

                      garrettsmithforum.com is live. Sadly I am too poor to actually host a forum so it's just a silly landing page that links here. Enjoy. Also if anyone has any funny additions for me to put on there I'm open to suggestions.

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                      • GreekDemiGodG
                        GreekDemiGod @risingfire
                        last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 07:21

                        @risingfire How come the G Genereux thread is the biggest and most discussed thread on the forum, spanning at least 5 years back?
                        This was way before what is happening now.
                        I agree that Low VA is not the only true path, but to completely dismiss that there are use cases where a low VA diet is beneficial (Accutane sufferers and people who supplemented high dose synthetic VA) seems closed-minded too.

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                          TheSir @ilovethesea
                          last edited by TheSir 20 Feb 2024, 08:27

                          @ilovethesea said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                          There is one user https://www.reddit.com/user/Sweaty-Program-3322/ all over them crusading for low vit A and that “Ray Peat’s ideas don’t work”

                          53 years. Peated for a decade. Can't handle nuance. That's InChristAlone.

                          Mosaic01 is also too eloquent to be Charlie.

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                          • TruthT
                            Truth @GreekDemiGod
                            last edited by Truth 20 Feb 2024, 08:40

                            @GreekDemiGod said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                            @risingfire How come the G Genereux thread is the biggest and most discussed thread on the forum, spanning at least 5 years back?
                            This was way before what is happening now.
                            I agree that Low VA is not the only true path, but to completely dismiss that there are use cases where a low VA diet is beneficial (Accutane sufferers and people who supplemented high dose synthetic VA) seems closed-minded too.

                            Hi, one of the factors is that many people have used this post regularly to detail their struggles for weeks/months/potentially years even when some of those comments weren't even related to "VA", rather than on a dedicated personal post like yours, many of those people who eventually said it didn't help and/or they stopped because they had negative symptoms

                            Some personal logs have 1085 comments, for example.

                            For years, even before Charlie started his muscle meat and rice diet, and propaganda, many people have suggested that too much of certain fruits and colored vegetables, and too much eggs and/or beef liver can contribute to symptoms, even on your personal post

                            "Low VA" claims such as Garett's claims and those of the people who believe in it, such as Charlie's , are partly fear driven, negative emotions driven, they lack intelligence and discernment, are often contradictory, sometimes intentional lies

                            None of the people who claim to eat a rice and muscle meat diet that I've seen seem to tend to optimal health, and many of them are still sick(some mentally) even years after starting this diet, even taking a boatload of supplements

                            Thrive for the highest degree of energy

                            https://x.com/Truth13711

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                            • ThinPickingT
                              ThinPicking @TheSir
                              last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 13:01

                              @TheSir

                              https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/the-official-state-of-the-forum-address-unprecedented-strength-and-unwavering-vision.52617/post-985016

                              Unbelievable...

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                              • ThinPickingT
                                ThinPicking @ThinPicking
                                last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 13:03

                                @ThinPicking

                                And fascinating for the meme-psych profile of him I'm building. I wonder what Mr GPT has to say about the anti-vitamin A grift. Perhaps it's busy compounding various delusions.

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                                • TruthT
                                  Truth
                                  last edited by Truth 20 Feb 2024, 13:11

                                  Charlie new A.I. generated meaningless propaganda, 20/02/2024

                                  Screenshot_2024-02-20-14-05-09-797_com.android.chrome-edit.jpg

                                  https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/the-official-state-of-the-forum-address-unprecedented-strength-and-unwavering-vision.52617/

                                  Thrive for the highest degree of energy

                                  https://x.com/Truth13711

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                                    A Former User @ThinPicking
                                    last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 13:20

                                    @ThinPicking Esteemed members, that would be 'held in great respect; admired', Yeah right, only if you tow his line (follow the rules or obey authority).

                                    He is a total nut job, and I'm doing nuts a disservice😠

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                                    • TruthT
                                      Truth @A Former User
                                      last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 13:27

                                      @Not_James_Bond Lolol, I suggest having more consideration for nuts, walnuts per exemple seem to have a brain under the shell

                                      Thrive for the highest degree of energy

                                      https://x.com/Truth13711

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                                        TheSir @Truth
                                        last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 13:35

                                        @Truth For clarification, he didn't delete anything nor was the quoted part originally included in his post. It was just my way of pointing out that it was clearly a computer-generated text.

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                                        • TruthT
                                          Truth @TheSir
                                          last edited by Truth 20 Feb 2024, 13:36

                                          @TheSir hi, allgood, i will change it

                                          Thrive for the highest degree of energy

                                          https://x.com/Truth13711

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                                            Peatful @TheSir
                                            last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 13:50

                                            @TheSir said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                            @Truth For clarification, he didn't delete anything nor was the quoted part originally included in his post. It was just my way of pointing out that it was clearly a computer-generated text.

                                            I will jump in here to say in the past he has changed titles and thread content.

                                            I had addressed this further down in the post of the Danny against Mercola crusade thread

                                            This was from almost a month ago, and as I look back
                                            It is curious that all those who have landed here didn’t say anything at the time we had the evidence in front of us

                                            His theology always made me side eye
                                            But hey
                                            We are all on a journey

                                            But the shtt I called out
                                            And no one said anything

                                            I just wish our numbers here
                                            Would have rallied or had solidarity

                                            All in hindsight
                                            And all for the better I suppose…

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                                            One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                                            -DB

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                                              S.Holmes @Peatful
                                              last edited by S.Holmes 20 Feb 2024, 13:58

                                              @Peatful I never saw this. What's the context for his cultists gonna cult comment?

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                                              • TruthT
                                                Truth @Peatful
                                                last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 13:59

                                                @Peatful Hi, I saw your comment mentioning Charlie who changed the title of his post from "fructose is poison" to "exessive fructose is poison" after being severely debunked on the religious and experimental aspect of it

                                                I didn't notice anything else for the title changes

                                                Thrive for the highest degree of energy

                                                https://x.com/Truth13711

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                                                • ThinPickingT
                                                  ThinPicking @S.Holmes
                                                  last edited by ThinPicking 20 Feb 2024, 14:10

                                                  @S-Holmes said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                                  @Peatful I never saw this. What's the context for his cultists gonna cult comment?

                                                  I may or may not have sent him a s***y email.

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                                                  • ThinPickingT
                                                    ThinPicking @ThinPicking
                                                    last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 14:11

                                                    @ThinPicking

                                                    also lol

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                                                      Peatful @S.Holmes
                                                      last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 14:12

                                                      @S-Holmes said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                                      @Peatful I never saw this. What's the context for his cultists gonna cult comment?

                                                      Hi

                                                      Go read the Mercola thread in entirety

                                                      That’s when the alarm bells were deafening

                                                      -Like who was the guy who started the thread?
                                                      -Mercola was so fucking weird
                                                      -Charlie was spiraling out of control
                                                      -And it just was super foretelling

                                                      I really do think it would be helpful to go back and read it

                                                      I would link here, but I’m ready to be on a work call so I got a run in three minutes

                                                      One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                                                      -DB

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                                                        Peatful @ThinPicking
                                                        last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 14:14

                                                        @ThinPicking said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                                        @S-Holmes said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                                        @Peatful I never saw this. What's the context for his cultists gonna cult comment?

                                                        I *may or may not have sent him a shitty email.

                                                        Oh yeah I totally know you did but why was something private being made public? I totally knew what was going on, but I was trying to put attention on it and get some direct answers from Charlie, which I never had

                                                        This is voice recognition because I gotta run

                                                        One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                                                        -DB

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                                                          Peatful @Truth
                                                          last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 14:15

                                                          @Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                                          @Peatful Hi, I saw your comment mentioning Charlie who changed the title of his post from "fructose is poison" to "exessive fructose is poison" after being severely debunked on the religious and experimental aspect of it

                                                          I didn't notice anything else for the title changes

                                                          Hello yeah there were several weird things going on simultaneously we all did our best I suppose

                                                          Gotta run

                                                          Thx

                                                          One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                                                          -DB

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                                                          • DonkeyDudeD
                                                            DonkeyDude
                                                            last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 14:35

                                                            Did Charlie just run out of money? I see many theories of secret service ops and such, but all that has transpired seems perfectly consistent with a simple cash grab.

                                                            What would you do if you did not care about Ray Peat at all, yet were in control of a RP-related discussion forum and needed some money quickly, because, for example, you lost a large amount of it gambling on cryptocurrency?

                                                            What I would do is paywall the site for new users to extract money from desperate sick people who don't even know what PUFA is. I might also start selling some standard high-margin health quackery, like, say, magic stickers protecting from scary 5G radiation. If that failed to generate significant revenue, I might just offer some alt-health influencer an effective sale of access to a health-conscious community. Seems familiar?

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                                                              A Former User @saturnuscv
                                                              last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 14:53

                                                              @saturnuscv maybe start dumping Ray and Haidut quotes on the importance of Vitamin A!

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                                                                A Former User @GreekDemiGod
                                                                last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 14:58

                                                                @GreekDemiGod I'm sure many folks like me, who strongly disagree with it, followed it like a hawk waiting for good evidence contra-Peat, to drop...

                                                                I was never satisfied. Also, the few hardcore proponents really do squawk the loudest, and honestly keep such related threads exited with their dogmatic over-replies to anyone who disagrees. Also, Garrett supposedly has a large following, so if they just stop by, view count goes up...
                                                                It has all the markings of a new guru diet - attracting the panacea people - who populate any health forum.

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                                                                  Regina @Truth
                                                                  last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 15:39

                                                                  @Truth Extinction burst.

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                                                                    A Former User
                                                                    last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 15:52

                                                                    We all have to light a candle tonight and eat a meal of egg yolks, whole milk and liver to celebrate

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                                                                      A Former User @A Former User
                                                                      last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 15:54

                                                                      @questforhealth Yes, cake too🍰

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                                                                        A Former User @A Former User
                                                                        last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 16:00

                                                                        @Not_James_Bond

                                                                        Extra butter. LOAD UP on the vitamin A.

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                                                                          A Former User @A Former User
                                                                          last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 16:01

                                                                          @questforhealth I ♥ Butter, without it life is less.

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                                                                            A Former User @A Former User
                                                                            last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 16:03

                                                                            @Not_James_Bond

                                                                            What do you mean? BUTTER is toxic.

                                                                            Beef and rice only.

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                                                                              A Former User @A Former User
                                                                              last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 16:06

                                                                              @questforhealth Butter is NOT toxic, only for Charlie, heck I'm having boiled carrots tonight tossed in butter, Yum😋

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                                                                                A Former User @A Former User
                                                                                last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 16:06

                                                                                @Not_James_Bond

                                                                                Demonic

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                                                                                  A Former User @A Former User
                                                                                  last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 16:08

                                                                                  @questforhealth 👿 You know it!

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                                                                                    A Former User
                                                                                    last edited by A Former User 20 Feb 2024, 16:44

                                                                                    Sorry if this has been mentioned, but it looks like Vitamin D is "toxic" as well. I don't have a problem with people discussing the pros and cons of things or a new take on research on something, but these proclamations from anonymous posters grabbing this or that anecdote or study wrapped around to support grandiose claims by various 'experts' is just total garbage. This is what we had for health information before Ray Peat. Interesting that this person wants to link Vitamin D to the 'allergy epidemic', because it has been speculated that the increased vaccine schedule is causing allergies/autoimmune symptoms. I smell a rat.

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                                                                                      A Former User @A Former User
                                                                                      last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 16:46

                                                                                      @C-Mex

                                                                                      We have to sit inside and become reptiles like Charlie. Cave dwellings reptiles Im telling you.

                                                                                      It’s obvious why Charlie never shows his eyes or face.

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                                                                                        A Former User @A Former User
                                                                                        last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 16:54

                                                                                        @C-Mex You can find, and post any study that 'fits' your/their narrative, glad I haven't even glanced at that forum for a while, It's now a cesspit, strong I know but more and more deserving of the word😞

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                                                                                          A Former User @ilovethesea
                                                                                          last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 16:57

                                                                                          @ilovethesea said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                                                                          More evidence this is a coordinated attack. I found on Ray Peat Reddit there are a couple threads about RPF imploding.

                                                                                          https://www.reddit.com/r/raypeat/comments/1atv75d/ray_peat_forum_gone_completely_mental/

                                                                                          https://www.reddit.com/r/raypeat/comments/1at4clu/what_is_going_on_with_the_ray_peat_forum/

                                                                                          There is one user https://www.reddit.com/user/Sweaty-Program-3322/ all over them crusading for low vit A and that “Ray Peat’s ideas don’t work”

                                                                                          That person is obviously a plant. No legit organic movement would have people like this coming out of the woodwork at the same time on multiple forums. Do they think we’re really this stupid??

                                                                                          Yes. Yes they do think we're this stupid. Sadly, some are that stupid. Ideally with age and experience comes wisdom.

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                                                                                          • KvotheK
                                                                                            Kvothe @Truth
                                                                                            last edited by Kvothe 20 Feb 2024, 17:01

                                                                                            @Truth "Esteemed Members...there will be total war on the Retinoids"

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                                                                                              saturnuscv
                                                                                              last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 18:00

                                                                                              IMG_9139.jpeg

                                                                                              NPC is moved by ChatGPT authored speech LOL

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                                                                                              • TruthT
                                                                                                Truth @Kvothe
                                                                                                last edited by Truth 20 Feb 2024, 18:02

                                                                                                @Kvothe said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                                                                                @Truth "Esteemed Members...there will be total war on the Retinoids"

                                                                                                lololol

                                                                                                Thrive for the highest degree of energy

                                                                                                https://x.com/Truth13711

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                                                                                                  evan.hinkle @saturnuscv
                                                                                                  last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 19:42

                                                                                                  @saturnuscv Yeah, that was some real weird stuff… then “The Sir” calls it out, and like an uncontrollable Pavlovian response: threat of ban…

                                                                                                  Yeah, say what you will about Vitamin A. If restricting it makes you act like that, then I’ll continue to eat foods with it.

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                                                                                                    S.Holmes @Truth
                                                                                                    last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 19:44

                                                                                                    @Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                                                                                    @Kvothe said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                                                                                    @Truth "Esteemed Members...there will be total war on the Retinoids"

                                                                                                    lololol

                                                                                                    😂

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                                                                                                    • GastonG
                                                                                                      Gaston
                                                                                                      last edited by 20 Feb 2024, 19:54

                                                                                                      The man who is too dumb to write a coherent statement in his own words is the same man who has identified the singular cause of all health problems. It's a miracle. God is truly good. #GodsArmy #Schizophrenia

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