New "Mission" of RPF
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@fiester said in New "Mission" of RPF:
You act like this is a "gotcha", and it isn't.
You said it. Your denial confirms it is a "gotcha" moment.
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@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@fiester said in New "Mission" of RPF:
You act like this is a "gotcha", and it isn't.
You said it. Your denial confirms it is a "gotcha" moment.
"I know you are but what am I"
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@fiester said in New "Mission" of RPF:
I hate Judiasm, think those who believe in "Judeo-Christianity" are foolish, and oppose those that deny Christ are use His name for their gain.
“The heart is deceitful above
Jesus came and preached love. The rules-based order sentenced him to die. At the behest of those whom he preached against. He was made an example of at his public trial and torture and crucifixion.
He was then used to create a new religion with a new compendium of books written by the men who knew how to control the narrative and make propaganda and make a new rules-based order that used love as an eye candy to ensnare more woolly eyed believers in the god of the Jews, this time calling it Christianity by adding a few wrinkles here and there. In words, it is based on love. But in practice, it is based in fear. Of hell, of God:s wrath to those who refuse to believe in the adornments added to the concept of a monotheistic God. A trinity of 3 persons in one God, calling it a mystery that rational people can't wrap their head around, and calling it pride that earns them eternal damnation while calling the believers blessed and humble and full of faith for having the ability to suspend their use of their mind to accept what they cannot understand. These men who question the trinity were persecuted and killed and disappeared and what is left are the "faithful," and without the naysayers to the falsehood of the trinity, it was a matter of time before Christianity was to be imprinted in all the subjects mindset and a creed ratified by a priesthood allied closely to the dominant empire at the time- the Roman Empire.
And so this cult is spread and the conquered became the faithful and the religion spread, under the pretense of liberating men from being Godlessness and savagery. And those who refused and believed in the natural law and in humanist ideals, as well as in other gods, were vanquished to be heard from no more.
In its heart and in its core, bad seed was sown. Strong roots firmly established to make permanent this institutionalization of mind control based on making peoples slaves while the illusion of godliness permeates under the spell of mass hypnosis. We are nothing but slaves and on the far end of normal reference range and deep into a pathological state spiritually.
Symptoms abound if you care to look around.
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I see no point in this if you believe the bible as propaganda and dismiss all followers as a cult and in one basket.
“Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.” (1 John 2:22-23, KJV)
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@yerrag the question remains: why talk of the Holy Spirit at all, since to you Christianity is programming to be overcome? It can only lead to confusion, as in the eyes of Christians the Holy Spirit affirms the divinity of Jesus. When conversing with them, you will end up using their terms in a way that does not agree with their definitions of those terms. Why deliberately hang on to the programming like that? Why continue use terminology that was brainwashed into you? Why not come up with your own terminology, now that you are empowered? That would be more congruent and less confusing.
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@JamesGatz Big man... don't you owe a bunch of people money or clothes still?
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@TheSir said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag the question remains: why talk of the Holy Spirit at all, since to you Christianity is programming to be overcome? It can only lead to confusion, as in the eyes of Christians the Holy Spirit affirms the divinity of Jesus. When conversing with them, you will end up using their terms in a way that does not agree with their definitions of those terms. Why deliberately hang on to the programming like that? Why continue use terminology that was brainwashed into you? Why not come up with your own terminology, now that you are empowered? That would be more congruent and less confusing.
It's enough for people to understand. I don't need to change the terminology just because you feel it can be confusing for other Christians that are not as smart as you. I give you an answer than is plain and simple. In language and terminology we both understand quite well.
Plain and simple.
And you want me to invent a new terminology? Just imagine how Star Trek would turn out when Gene Roddenberry would have to invent a whole new Klingon language and put subtitles in for the sake of purity along your absurd standards.
I am just glad no one like you were not around as an influential movie or TV critic. Not that you have proven yourself to be one. I would certainly be turned off having to learn an invented Klingon language for the sake of watching Star Trek. You sure would be successful in turning a sci-fi series from enjoyment to torture for everyone.
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@fiester said in New "Mission" of RPF:
I see no point in this if you believe the bible as propaganda and dismiss all followers as a cult and in one basket.
And you believe on faith alone that the bible is the word of God? Who told you so then?
Do you truly think that the world is a better place because of Christianity? That Christianity was a moderating force that averted many wars that could have been because Christian leaders were so effective as the third rail that kept many many crimes of humanity from seeing the light of day. That Christian leaders would protect its flock when the government abuses its powers? Yeah, what did your pastors and popes and bishops and ministers do when their flocks were herded into getting vaccines meant to harm them? Weren't their chorus of objection and indignation so loud you can hear a pin drop? Where was the love of a shepherd who would seek out the single lost sheep huh? Did they unite and protect one good man for whistleblowing against the abuse of power as an independent journalist and send a strong statement that God's wrath will befall the abusive leaders who hide under the immunity of national security and abuse its powers? Yes, I speak in defense of Julian Assange.
What is Christianity but a cult? But that is too kind of me to just say it is a cult? And you object to my kindness and my soft- pedaling.
I ask you: Didn't the whole cult sin by just sitting by and doing nothing when it could do something against the pathogenically habitual and chronic offenses done by governments against humanity? As a former Catholic I would go to confession for sins of commission and of omission. How grave the sin of failing to do what is right when the entire Christian church complex simply stood by and act nowhere like a good Samaritan in the bible.
And yet you speak of the bible and failed to act like a good Samaritan?
You're right. I see no point in this. Christianity is pointless and toothless and meaningless when its leaders and followers themselves rob it of the essence of Jesus, the exemplary prophet that he is to come to save humanity.
We are worthy of forty by forty years of exile from whatever he promised us.
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@yerrag On what do you base your belief that Jesus is not only a fictional character and that he was a living person, and on what do you base your belief in the attributes you think he had?
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@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
It's enough for people to understand. I don't need to change the terminology just because you feel it can be confusing for other Christians that are not as smart as you. I give you an answer than is plain and simple. In language and terminology we both understand quite well.
Plain and simple.
And you want me to invent a new terminology? Just imagine how Star Trek would turn out when Gene Roddenberry would have to invent a whole new Klingon language and put subtitles in for the sake of purity along your absurd standards.
I am just glad no one like you were not around as an influential movie or TV critic. Not that you have proven yourself to be one. I would certainly be turned off having to learn an invented Klingon language for the sake of watching Star Trek. You sure would be successful in turning a sci-fi series from enjoyment to torture for everyone.
I'm afraid you are unwilling to acknowledge the issue. You can't approppriate someone's well defined terminology, rewrite it to suit your own needs and then expect not to have to explain yourself to anyone. Assuming otherwise demonstrates such an immense amount of hubris that it strongly testifies against your claim about your contact with the Holy Spirit. If all you have to show for your faith is pride, impatience and insults, you can be sure that you at least are as far away from God as the rest of the people and nations you criticize. Unfortunately, due to all the deceit and distraction you are engaging in, it is hard for anyone to understand what you are truly on about, and that does include me.
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@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag On what do you base your belief that Jesus is not only a fictional character and that he was a living person, and on what do you base your belief of the attributes you think he had?
Is there another source other than the same source you have, as Jesus did not flash a strong light as I was driving and revealed himself to me to start a new religion.
Did you want to follow up with one enlightening and mesmerizing gotcha, sticks?
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@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag On what do you base your belief that Jesus is not only a fictional character and that he was a living person, and on what do you base your belief of the attributes you think he had?
Is there another source other than the same source you have, as Jesus did not flash a strong light as I was driving and revealed himself to me to start a new religion.
Did you want to follow up with one enlightening and mesmerizing gotcha, sticks?
I dont have any source, i dont have any thoughts and beliefs related to that, unless i ask someone about his claims on it
You base your beliefs on the Bible, or on "historical accounts", how in your thoughts do you discern what you think is propaganda and control, and what you think is factual about "Jesus"?
"Sticks" Can you stay correct or do you want to continue to be perceived as mentally ill, mentally ill person?
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Your great ability to use words in going around in circles in absurd circumlocution only to object to form and not substance betrays your penchant to evade issues you clearly have no grasp of. It is only noise and no signal. Your history of posts attest to that nature in you which you mistake as brilliance. Wake up!
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@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
Do you truly think that the world is a better place because of Christianity?
It is necessary to make a distinction between organized religion and the gospel, as they are, at least in certain sense, opposites: for whereas religion is about what man can do for God, the gospel is about what God has done for man. Since man is fundamentally flawed, even the things we do for God cause great harm to whole mankind. Thus, as you have intuited, all we can do is humble ourselves and let God work in us.
There is much for which Christianity can be criticized and blamed. Yet Christianity is not the gospel, nor is it the Church that is made up of those who live the gospel. As Jesus did not come to create a religion, but rather to free people from it, in this sense you are right in rebelling against organized Christianity. If only you were able to see that you don't need to discard what God has done for you in Christ in order to discard the shackles of religion.
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@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag On what do you base your belief that Jesus is not only a fictional character and that he was a living person, and on what do you base your belief of the attributes you think he had?
Is there another source other than the same source you have, as Jesus did not flash a strong light as I was driving and revealed himself to me to start a new religion.
Did you want to follow up with one enlightening and mesmerizing gotcha, sticks?
I dont have any source, i dont have any belief related to that.
You base your beliefs on the Bible, or on "historical accounts", how in your thoughts do you discern what you think is propaganda and control, and what you think is factual about "Jesus"?
"Sticks" Can you stay correct or do you want to continue to be perceived as mentally ill, mentally ill person?
You ask for proof as if proof is like something one readily finds in a Rosetta stone. I would give you an explanation like I had done before, but it's best you begin to use tour God-given mind and get inspired to start thinking. I know, I know, it's hard. Just start with small tidbits of thought and slowly increase the stress on your mind.
You will get the hang of it, bones! Believe in yourself.
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@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag On what do you base your belief that Jesus is not only a fictional character and that he was a living person, and on what do you base your belief of the attributes you think he had?
Is there another source other than the same source you have, as Jesus did not flash a strong light as I was driving and revealed himself to me to start a new religion.
Did you want to follow up with one enlightening and mesmerizing gotcha, sticks?
I dont have any source, i dont have any belief related to that.
You base your beliefs on the Bible, or on "historical accounts", how in your thoughts do you discern what you think is propaganda and control, and what you think is factual about "Jesus"?
"Sticks" Can you stay correct or do you want to continue to be perceived as mentally ill, mentally ill person?
You ask for proof as if proof is like something one readily finds in a Rosetta stone. I would give you an explanation like I had done before, but it's best you begin to use tour God-given mind and get inspired to start thinking. I know, I know, it's hard. Just start with small tidbits of thought and slowly increase the stress on your mind.
You will get the hang of it, bones! Believe in yourself.
Mentally ill person,
The Questions neither imply nor speak of proof,
I said belief, not knowledge on top of that.
Already in this exchange, I've for sure used my " god" mind to think, rather than your low energy mediocre mind
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@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
Your great ability to use words in going around in circles in absurd circumlocution only to object to form and not substance betrays your penchant to evade issues you clearly have no grasp of. It is only noise and no signal. Your history of posts attest to that nature in you which you mistake as brilliance. Wake up!
Considering your forceful attempts to dominate the discourse by making up lies about me and weaving fictitious narratives, as well as your consistent evasion of questions and counter arguments, this seems to be little else than projection. I continue being saddened by your recent dramatic change in character, but I hope deep down you are fine.
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@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@fiester said in New "Mission" of RPF:
I see no point in this if you believe the bible as propaganda and dismiss all followers as a cult and in one basket.
And you believe on faith alone that the bible is the word of God? Who told you so then?
God did.
As a former Catholic I would go to confession for sins of commission and of omission. How grave the sin of failing to do what is right when the entire Christian church complex simply stood by and act nowhere like a good Samaritan in the bible.
Catholicism is a cult. True Christianity is not. I am sorry the Catholic "church" hurt you.
And yet you speak of the bible and failed to act like a good Samaritan?
I don't think the left for dead Israelite was kicking and screaming.
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@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag On what do you base your belief that Jesus is not only a fictional character and that he was a living person, and on what do you base your belief of the attributes you think he had?
Is there another source other than the same source you have, as Jesus did not flash a strong light as I was driving and revealed himself to me to start a new religion.
Did you want to follow up with one enlightening and mesmerizing gotcha, sticks?
I dont have any source, i dont have any belief related to that.
You base your beliefs on the Bible, or on "historical accounts", how in your thoughts do you discern what you think is propaganda and control, and what you think is factual about "Jesus"?
"Sticks" Can you stay correct or do you want to continue to be perceived as mentally ill, mentally ill person?
You ask for proof as if proof is like something one readily finds in a Rosetta stone. I would give you an explanation like I had done before, but it's best you begin to use tour God-given mind and get inspired to start thinking. I know, I know, it's hard. Just start with small tidbits of thought and slowly increase the stress on your mind.
You will get the hang of it, bones! Believe in yourself.
Mentally ill person,
The Questions neither imply nor speak of proof,
I said belief, not knowledge on top of that.
Already in this exchange, I've for sure used my " god" mind to think, rather than your low energy mediocre mind
Yes, mentally ill. So can you do me a favor and we just ignore each other. I'll always be testy with you. You feel you have some valid questions, whereas I consider them pointless and peripheral and have little bearing on the topic at hand. It's always a sidebar with you. Beside the point. And immaterial. But that is what makes you you. Some people will enjoy a tête a tete with you over coffee, but not I. Truthfully, I am annoyed. Rightly or wrongly.
All the best. Have a nice life.
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@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag On what do you base your belief that Jesus is not only a fictional character and that he was a living person, and on what do you base your belief of the attributes you think he had?
Is there another source other than the same source you have, as Jesus did not flash a strong light as I was driving and revealed himself to me to start a new religion.
Did you want to follow up with one enlightening and mesmerizing gotcha, sticks?
I dont have any source, i dont have any belief related to that.
You base your beliefs on the Bible, or on "historical accounts", how in your thoughts do you discern what you think is propaganda and control, and what you think is factual about "Jesus"?
"Sticks" Can you stay correct or do you want to continue to be perceived as mentally ill, mentally ill person?
You ask for proof as if proof is like something one readily finds in a Rosetta stone. I would give you an explanation like I had done before, but it's best you begin to use tour God-given mind and get inspired to start thinking. I know, I know, it's hard. Just start with small tidbits of thought and slowly increase the stress on your mind.
You will get the hang of it, bones! Believe in yourself.
Mentally ill person,
The Questions neither imply nor speak of proof,
I said belief, not knowledge on top of that.
Already in this exchange, I've for sure used my " god" mind to think, rather than your low energy mediocre mind
Yes, mentally ill. So can you do me a favor and we just ignore each other. I'll always be testy with you. You feel you have some valid questions, whereas I consider them pointless and peripheral and have little bearing on the topic at hand. It's always a sidebar with you. Beside the point. And immaterial. But that is what makes you you. Some people will enjoy a tête a tete with you over coffee, but not I. Truthfully, I am annoyed. Rightly or wrongly.
All the best. Have a nice life.
Mentally ill person,
Why do you go to forums, if you feel animosity towards people who have different ideas from yours on certain subjects, even when they don't want to hurt others,
and if you feel animosity towards people who ask questions about your claims, even when these questions are elementary, and impartial?
Your ability to benefit from and contribute to forums seems low at the moment,
I suggest you should stop going on forums and/or the internet, try to relax and increase your energy and potentially come back later