New "Mission" of RPF

[Amazoniac]

@Jaffe

I wasn't aware of the mirrored behavior, but it's indeed preferable for members to assume that the characteristic authoritarianism was disinhibited after an ideological justification was found (it happened to be poison A, but could be anything else) rather than being a product of some sinister conspiracy. The pattern of conduct remains the same, only amplified now because of overconfidence to unleash it.

The recent disposals aren't much different in quality than the elimination of members who disagreed with Ray on dietary minutiae in the past, dumping along without remorse whoever questioned.

On the last month, probably more than 50 members were eliminated over nothing, but we never know the full extent of the mess because many moves are sneaky and some members disappear afterwards. For example, what if CreakyJoints or Mauritio didn't voice?

By the way, to ask why a peer was banned isn't back-seat moderation. To seek an explanation not only is forbidden, but treated with punishment. What a joke.

The Ray Peat Forum disappointed the majority of the community formed through Ray, not realizing that those who remained supporters, indifferent to the absurds, may ditch them at any time to be embraced by the groups run by the very proponents that the staff promote. Professor Garrett has been a parasite of the forum since its creation, but it seems that its leaders are fully committed to reversing roles.

Reliance on social media posts by charlatans to keep the platform active is risky because supporters may soon realize that they can interact elsewhere without having to pay questionable fees, on existing groups dedicated to the ideology being imposed on the forum, while still consulting the material there. Giveaways are entertaining, but for $77/year, they may buy 3 products of those without depending on luck.

Since it's not lucrative to buy products from your own store, at this elimination pace, views count may become an important metric and putting barriers that lower them can be counterproductive.

On one hand, it's fair for the lion to not want the content to be scraped because of the maintenance factor throughout time. On the other hand, it's a collective effort that he's trying to appropriate.

That he panicked at the possibility of no longer possessing the material shows the degree of leadership insecurity. Otherwise, people could copy the information as much as they wanted, but they wouldn't be able to recreate the forum experience elsewhere because the leaders are playing a fundamental role, are adored and irreplaceable.

[risingfire]

@S-Holmes thank you I'm going to wear it as a badge of honor

[risingfire]

My new favorite Charlie tidbit is he views tumors as a "bag of toxins." I don't think this man is serious

[Peatful]

I am madder than I’ve ever been with this ignorance

The defamation
All in the name of God of course

The illness

The stupidity

For context
Maybe scroll up in that thread

They are dumb
They don’t understand

Hey
Im dumb on some shtt too
But I don’t go around acting like an expert
Or using someone’s NAME and LIFES WORK for profit

Post in thread 'Ray Peat and "Toxic Bile Theory". In What Way do These Philosophies Differ?'

Edit:

https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/ray-peat-and-toxic-bile-theory-in-what-way-do-these-philosophies-differ.52792/

[risingfire]

@Peatful

Charlie: "how do we know Ray didn't live 'cancer free'"? The stupidity of this guy. Then he goes on and says Ray died a degenerative death many of us saw coming a mile away. He was 86 answering a ton of emails, writing newsletters and answering questions on podcasts and talk shows.

Charlie, if you're reading this(which I'm sure you will as your neurotic psychopath) Keep Ray's name out of your mouth and your stupid forum!!

[Peatful]

@risingfire “he drove the cancer deeper into his body”

Unconscionable
Ignorant

Using his name for gain

It’s people like this that hung Bonhoeffer….

[ilovethesea]

@Jaffe I agree that Charlie is a simpleton. Garrett is the one I’m not so sure about. The level of aggression and timing of his takeover at the same time as Mercola embracing Peat is all very odd.

Garrett posts a lot about “controlled opposition” and “psy ops” suggesting that he himself is not - kind of strange for a nutritionist.

[ilovethesea]

@Peatful I don’t get why he feels compelled to keep on maligning Ray. Not only does he dig in his heels at changing the forum name, he keeps on with this false narrative that Ray was unhealthy, ignorant, died prematurely, had cancer, etc etc etc.

And then turns around in the same thread posting lame tweets from a “nutrition detective” and claims his diet cures everything under the sun. It’s all so absurd I can’t believe he is actually serious.

Here he is in another thread insulting Georgi now... as if he’s not just parrotting Garrett Smith himself!

[Peatful]

Immoral
Unethical
Reprobate
Stupid
Sanctimonious

Unwell

[Peatful]

https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/is-this-still-the-ray-peat-forum-or-has-changed-to-low-toxic-lifestyle.52793/

Let’s see how this soldier fares….

[Kvothe]

@ilovethesea It's obvious. Whatever he interpreted as his version of "the Ray Peat diet" with his limited brain capacity didn't work out for him, and now - instead of taking some responsibility for his own actions - he is angry and lashing out at a dead man, and anyone that questions his latest interpretations of something that is sufficiently simplistic and stupid enough for him to to wrap his head around.
He is incapable of introspection and critical thinking - he is the archetype of the religious zealot that sees his dogmatic, distorted beliefs reflected everywhere and in everyone. He did the same thing with Peat when he projected his religious ideas onto his person and dietary advice.
It was inevitable that he would some day end up with another deluded, completely amoral snakeoil salesman. I am sure that Charlie is not exploiting this as a better business opportunity, he is far too limited for that. I am convinced that he genuinely believes that he is a chosen apostle of the new messiah with their low-toxin-religion. It will be delightful and hilarious to see this thing come crashing down.

[ilovethesea]

Blossom just posted her own before and after photos as a supposed “advertisement” for how well Garrett Smith’s diet works. I’m sorry to say but I find the after quite shocking.

Before - on Ray Peat diet

After 5 years of Garrett Smith

This is from here https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/ray-peat-and-toxic-bile-theory-in-what-way-do-these-philosophies-differ.52792/

[Mulloch94]

@Kvothe said in New "Mission" of RPF:

Whatever he interpreted as his version of "the Ray Peat diet" with his limited brain capacity didn't work out for him

I'm at a point where I just genuinely ignore anyone who said they tried a "Ray Peat diet." It tells me they don't comprehend shit. If someone is going to be that retarded when Ray never gave general dietary advice to anyone publicly then they deserve to get fat, miserable, and have issues.

Getting sugar, calcium, salt, protein is a pretty fucking ambiguous idea to me. It encapsulates an almost endless amount of possibilities and variety. Not sure why these morons settle on the most orthorexic shit I've ever seen in my life.

You ask me bro....it's Darwin's theory at work I tell you.

[Mulloch94]

@ilovethesea That's a pretty drastic change. She was obviously overeating on the "Ray Peat diet." The Garret Smith protocol looks like it did a good job adding 25 years of aging in just 5 years. So I guess in some ways low A approach is quite remarkable...just not in a good way. Aside from her obviously eating less. But in terms of looks she's aged like a marathon runner, or one of those people that's smoked a pack per day for 30 years.

[saturnuscv]

@Mulloch94 she’s also hiding 60% of her face with her hair in the second image so who knows what edematous horror we may really be looking at here.

I’m honestly open to the idea that some people do benefit from Garrett because they are genuinely Vit A toxic. People who are “eating a Ray Peat diet” with tons of liver, missing the nuance of peat’s liver/A recommendation, etc. I think the notion that this is applicable to everyone is absurd.

I get maybe 50% of my calories and probably close to 70-80% of my protein from whole milk fortified with Vit A palmitate, (not even an ideal source) and I feel 100x better than a few years ago when I was still avoiding dairy and coincidentally eating more or less exactly what Smith advocates for now. (Rice & muscle meat were all my digestive system could tolerate)

[A Former User]

@ilovethesea The only remaining plotline that interests me is how long @haidut is going to endure the humiliation of biting his tongue to appease these morons, or whether he will sell out (i.e. "help people") by doing business in some way with Garrett Smith. Insofar as he stays quiet it is basically an endorsement of the latter, as Charlie is now nothing more than a mouthpiece for Garrett Smith (if not literally him).

As for the rest of the new forum content, like apocalyptic prophecies about April 8, nothing will happen and they will then make some excuse and continue incoherently rambling. That's fine. Let all the illiterates congregate there and degenerate on their own little internet island.

[Truth]

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[ThinPicking]

oooof charlie is seething, just lol

[risingfire]

@Peatful how does one drive cancer deeper into the body? I was wondering this yesterday. A lot of mysticism around the anti-vitamin A crowd.

Based on what Garrett looks like, I have a feeling the bottom is going to fall out in a few years. I also suspect he doesn't follow his advice to a "t." I hope many people aren't hurt in the "detox" stage.

[yerrag]

@risingfire

If you remember Tara at RPF, during the COVID Hoax years, she came to defend the COVID vax. Since I remember my start at RPF with Tara as embracing the side of Peat that favored a healthy lifestyle based primarily on good nutrition, I viewed her in a very positive light. That changed when her representation at the forum turned into a reverse mirrored image of her alter ego. I suspected her online self was hijacked, and not long after she no longer was a member, even thoufh at one time she served as an admin. The true Charlie was still firmly at the helm, and tara was gone - presumably banned.

The problem with being anonymous and hiding behind a handle is that it is not inconceivable that the powers that be could hijack the persona of the main admin, disposing of the original real person behind the persona. It isn't far-fetched to see this happen to Charlie's online persona.

As much as I've come to dislike the original owner of the Charlie online persona, I don't think he would have allowed RPF to sway from its original mission. I'm afraid that site has been hijacked recently, which would explain the inconceivable transpiring now at RPF. So much member posts and shared knowledge on bioenergetics and allied disciplines are stored there, and eradicating it is favorable to the powers that be. It would be a big loss if all of that treasure trove would simply be wiped out.

Am I alone in thinking a deeper conspiracy is at the heart of RPF's recent change in direction? If what I fear is true, what can be done by @brad in preventing a future RPF-style meltdown?