Headaches
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@sunsunsun
fair enough. I don't make time for it. I hate gyms and don't have much space for home work out area currently.I think you're right that something like that would help, because the neck de-compression device which pulls the head away from the body always helped. I think it must be related to muscle / nerve pathways being weakened.
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90 percent sure it’s your gut / digestion
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@Peatful how to fix.... I've tried all the Peaty routines. Still feeling bloated and achey quite a bit though digestion is fast.
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Things like headache's, muscle and joint pains are certainly fluid balance alarms to me. I'm probably also parroting this a bit too much though 🦜
Are you drinking any water corngold? You can play around with the amount and the timing even if it's yes.
it strikes out of nowhere when I wake up.
Always examine the last 24 - 72 hours. Your renal function is rhythmic, it's responsive to your orientation and your senses can become deranged.
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@ThinPicking I do but usually milk, energy drinks, coffee. I'm not thirsty often. Maybe too much salt and fat?
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Fat's not been a concern to me so I haven't really looked in to it. It's undoubtedly a factor though. I might do when I commence a keto experiment.
It could be not enough unless you're salting those other carb'y beverages, TCM may be describing it 'damp' for a reason. Either way you can always nudge a reconfiguration with a small load of plain old h2'ohh. Away from meals, maybe in the windows between your breakfast, lunch and dinner. Warm because it's winter. Play around with it.
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@ThinPicking Do you gauge salt levels by how quickly you pee water?
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i actually found drinking more water than peaters say is good and took thinpickings advice to drink water in the morning even with coffee .
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At some point I decided I can't except for how I feel in the context of the last 2 or 3 days. And widening my definition of the word 'diet'.
I bought a refractometer and some other 'cheap' gizmos. Results were impossibly variable even if I was strict about routine and I felt like a joke using some of them. I thought I could find 'the pattern', but the pattern is in motion. Part of which I can influence at rest without attending to anything.
Others mileage may vary. I would recommend listening to the stomach with a stethoscope because it costs almost nothing and it's particularly wild to me.
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Also peripheral sodium storage and the infradian rhythms of it are a ridiculously complex subject. I have a wad of unfinished reading on that. It's probably cosmic as much as it's terrestrial. What is astrology.
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@sunsunsun oh shit. We going full circle with cleanses and h20 maxing circa 2010s. Damn.
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ThinPicking said in Headaches:
I bought a refractometer and some other 'cheap' gizmos. Results were impossibly variable even if I was strict about routine and I felt like a joke using some of them. I thought I could find 'the pattern', but the pattern is in motion. Part of which I can influence at rest without attending to anything.
When I followed RBTI (Reams Biological Theory of Ionization), I felt like a science experiment using gizmos like a salt meter, but the refractometer proved to be useful. It showed a pattern in not only myself, but my mum, as well. Both of our Brix, i.e., blood sugar, crashed (a reading of 0) around 10 am and 2 pm every day, triggering migraines, and plain water exacerbated it so we were in the habit of drinking only “osmotically balanced” liquids, as Ray called it. Since optimizing my thyroid dose, I can have plain water without issue.
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Definitely go with Jennifer's endorsement of it @Corngold. I'm not that smart and it was a while ago. Plus they really are cheap, you've got nothing to lose but some dignity in private.
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@ThinPicking
Those look neat. I'll investigate.
I drank maybe 20 oz water and feel better.
I'll be monitoring this. thanks -
I've been struggling with headaches and back/shoulder pain
What about a mix with:
- acupuncture and kinesiotherapy to get rid of tension.
- followed by infra-red therapy the next day, with 100 mcg B1 and B6 (PLP only). (with some B3 and B2 twice a week, from a co-enzymed B50 complex).
NB: Mind the kind of B6 and do not take it without pause (to avoid a backdraft from the brain; stop with excess => impact as if there were a lack, from GABA interference).
When reading studies, you have to take into account the kind of B6. There are 3 forms PNP, PLP, PMP. PNP is toxic if ... - Mind glutamine in excess (glutamate pathway). Need for taurine, even without taking L-glutamine.
Useful info (in French, translator needed)
Effets de la Vitamine B6 sur les Neurotransmetteurs
https://mirzoune-ciboulette.forumactif.org/t2032-effets-de-la-vitamine-b6-sur-les-neurotransmetteurs#29621 -
interesting comment on Eonutrition when there is a problem with thyroid (saturation from halogens):
How To Start High-Dose Thiamine (Vitamin B1)
EOnuttrition video 8.52’’
https://youtu.be/K4iAPfAFcs0?list=PLZPlb2-Xf5TzYhS2h-bXD4q8TBWRjub-D
Comments:
@triciareed:
Important to note: B1 increases demand for B2, but adding B2 may not do anything if there is an underlying iodine, selenium, and/or molybdenum deficiency. As most are iodine deficient and unaware of it, adding iodine-iodide such as Iodoral can be extremely helpful. Very important to check into this, as iodine (as well as selenium and molybdenum) is necessary to activate B2. A B1 therapy "crash" can be avoided or fixed by having enough of these other important cofactors.Video 3.50’’ Paradox reaction
What is the paradoxical reaction?
Worsening of symptoms before improvement. Typically headache, fatigue (tension), restless or a general feeling of unwellness.
It generally lasts one week. You don’t increase dose until the symptoms get back to baseline. -
As I wasn't satisfied with the form and the link I wanted to put in excerpt, I've asked AI to do the job, with a specific orientation.
Simplified English Version (impact-focused)
When headaches keep coming back despite physical therapy, stretching, or aspirin, it’s worth looking at another angle:
a disruption of the electrical and chemical “circuits” of the nervous system, often worsened by neck/shoulder tension and increased sensitivity.
Here are three useful avenues to explore:
- Release physical compression on the nerves
A combination of acupuncture + physiotherapy/manual therapy can reduce the “pinching” around the cervical nerves.
️ Less compression = less neural over-excitation and fewer headaches.
- Support the neuro-metabolic pathways (B1 + B6/PLP)
Some B-vitamins — especially B1 (thiamine) and B6 in its active form PLP — help stabilize the balance between excitation (glutamate) and calming signals (GABA).
When these pathways are sluggish or overloaded, the nervous system becomes hypersensitive.
Why it matters:
• B1 improves energy flow in nerve cells (used heavily by the brain)
• B6/PLP is needed to make GABA, so the brain doesn’t over-fire
• Wrong form or excess B6 → irritability of the nerves
• B1 increases the need for B2, which depends on iodine, selenium, molybdenum status
• Imbalances can trigger a paradoxical reaction (symptoms worsen before they improve)
See Dr. Derrick Lonsdale & Chandler Marrs (Hormones Matter): their work explains how thiamine deficiency or bottlenecks can create “functional” neurological symptoms including headaches, fatigue, nerve tension.
- Address the excitatory load (glutamate pathway)
Too much glutamate or poor conversion from glutamine can lead to neural over-reactivity.
→ Taurine can sometimes help calm these pathways, even without supplementing glutamine.
In short, the picture looks like this:
A mix of mechanical compression + neurochemical sensitivity.
The goal is to decompress, discharge, then rebalance the circuits.
Extra: Thyroid issues when halogens block iodine (simple image)
When iodine receptors in the thyroid are “occupied” by other halogens (fluoride, bromide, chlorine), the thyroid can’t activate metabolism properly — including the pathways needed for B2 and therefore B1 to work efficiently.Simple conceptual image : Iodine receptor on thyroid cell:
[ I ] ← iodine fits perfectly. No problem.
Halogens in the way: [ F ] [ Br ] [ Cl ] are blocking the access. The halogens block the slot → iodine can't bind.
Result:
↓ Thyroid activation → ↓ B2 activation → ↓ B1 efficiency
= increased sensitivity + low stress tolerance + headaches possible.When the “slot” is blocked, the whole metabolic chain slows down, including those related to neural stability.
- Release physical compression on the nerves
