Wart On Finger Destroyed; 3 New Warts Appear…
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@Peatful that was where most of the ideas for the original removal came from, but the fact it seemed to spread after is the issue.
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@sphagnum said in Wart On Finger Destroyed; 3 New Warts Appear…:
Can anyone offer any practical advice on how to get these new warts taken care of without the virus simply moving around again
I'm writing a article (how to manage; which molecule).
Written, but in French. Not yet posted. Must be re-read.
2 examples:- isobetadine
The effectiveness of iodine against HPV infections is based on a non-specific mechanism of action. PVP-I blocks electron transport, inhibits cellular respiration, destabilizes membranes, inhibits protein synthesis, and denatures the nucleic acids of the HPV virus and infected host cells. - Protocol by Danièle Festy, Doctor of Pharmacy (My Essential Oils Bible). Juniper, cinnamon, savory, clove, oregano, and wintergreen essential oils. 20 drops of each. I added tea tree and 10 drops of peppermint. So, 65% essential oils diluted in 10 ml of jojoba oil. Apply with a cotton swab, twice a day. The essential oil treatment is applied for 3 weeks. Then take a 15-day break.
=> Attack at 6.6 % EO for 5 days, afterwards it could be more moderate for a child 8-15 years old. But 2.5 % essential oil from cetones is in the acceptable limit. - Others possibilities are taken into account (useful nutrients).
- isobetadine
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Well, then, rather try to fix things topically look at what’s going on with your immune system
Ie: you may have low level inflammation from endotoxin as an example….
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@LucH
If I were to choose between the two topical options, I may have to pick isobetadine. I would be worried that such a strong concentration (65%) of EO’s would be too much for a child’s skin. That concentration exceeds the limits that I’ve read in the past for EO that is coming into contact with the human body.
Also, the isobetadine I imagine can be spread around the surrounding area safely, where the EO may sensitize a child’s skin if spread all over the area.-
Is there an upper limit for topical isobetadine, since it is obviously penetrating the skin and therefore going into the organism?
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What nutrients would you suggest here? I would like to fight this systematically more than attacking isolated concentrations on the skin.
@Peatful
Is there any specific testing you think might be worthwhile? I’m not even sure how to check for inflammation or endotoxins in a meaningful way (so many tests seem to be considered unreliable or not looking at the right markers by the standards on here and RPF.)
This is for a child and not myself, so I can’t really experiment or go by “feel” like I could for if it was me. They are otherwise very healthy though, and eat a what would mostly be considered an “approved” diet by most folks on here. -
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My apologies for missing that it was for small child
If the child has had vaccines lately, that would explain a compromised or overworked immune system
I know both of my children had quite an adverse response to specifically the chickenpox vaccine
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@sphagnum said in Wart On Finger Destroyed; 3 New Warts Appear…:
Is there an upper limit for topical isobetadine, since it is obviously penetrating the skin and therefore going into the organism?
What nutrients would you suggest here? I would like to fight this systematically more than attacking isolated concentrations on the skin.
- With isobetadine, you won't get problem if applied on 3 or 4 warts.
But I'd take into account another possibility if you're convinced that iodine could be useful. I've begun with a take of 225 mcg iodine (titled) very progressively to accustom NIS symporters. I can give a link for more details on how to take iodine. But first with selenium before iodine. - Here is part of the answer:
The total concentration of essential oils with ketones in the blend is 6.6%. This is indeed the percentage I was aiming for.
A concentration of around 5-7% of these two essential oils is generally/probably effective, while remaining safe, within an intensive application context (attack phase). After an attack phase of approximately 5 days, the concentration can be reduced to 2% instead of 6.6% for adolescents between 8 and 15 years old. No ketones are used in children under 7 years old (their brains are still developing).
I have applied a safety margin.
I modified pharmacist D. Festy's protocol (making it less potent). Why? Essential oils won't kill the virus. They weaken the virus's "shell," making it more vulnerable to attack by the immune system.
Useful information:
- Supports metabolism
- Provides beneficial nutrients
- Optimizes mitochondrial respiration
- Addresses deficiencies in certain vitamins and trace elements, particularly B1, B2, B9, and magnesium.
- Other alternatives (NAC, curcumin, aspirin)
More details on this link (in French, translator needed)
HPV : Fréquence et Dormance (HPV: Frequency and Dormancy).
Combattre le virus HPV (verrue) sur plusieurs fronts en assistant le système immun. (Fighting the HPV virus (wart) on multiple fronts by assisting the immune system.
https://mirzoune-ciboulette.forumactif.org/t2151-virus-hpv-frequence-et-dormance#30461
- With isobetadine, you won't get problem if applied on 3 or 4 warts.
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@sphagnum
I thought warts were common in children and not so much in adults? German New Medicine has ideas on why we get warts and why on different limbs/hands or feet. For example, separation and distance anxieties relate to warts on feet; wanting to remain somewhere after moving, etc. I'm not sure the explanation for hands/fingers. -
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Yes, I'm comfortable with iodine and feel it can be useful when done right, so I would be interested.
As far as selenium, what would be best for that as well? Normally I would try Brazil nuts. The Terrasoul brand claims to harvest from heirloom trees in the Amazon, and stores them in refrigeration. The numbers on cronometer are pretty good as far as the amount of selenium to non-saturated fats so I was thinking of ordering some of these for myself as my diet is likely low in selenium. However, the child had a strong allergic reaction to a Brazil nut at a young age so I imagine that still won't be an option. -
I see. I thought the concentration was a misunderstanding so thank you for clarifying.
Interesting on how the oils work to weaken the shell rather than kill directly. This is useful info in general when exploring EOs for health.
Thank you for the other link. I will begin reading that now. You certainly provided a good amount of detailed information there.
@Corngold
That kind of reminds me of reflexology and the interconnections of the body. While this particular finger seems to have been directly infected through a wound (I double checked infant pictures to make sure it was the same finger) I still feel that there is merit in exploring the connections between the physical and emotional body. I will see what would be suggested in the case of finger warts. -
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@sphagnum said in Wart On Finger Destroyed; 3 New Warts Appear…:
Yes, I'm comfortable with iodine and feel it can be useful when done right, so I would be interested.
Useful info on iodine
*) Toxicité de l’iode – La fin d’une erreur médicale (Iodine toxicity – The end of a medical error)
https://mirzoune-ciboulette.forumactif.org/t2087-toxicite-de-liode-la-fin-dune-erreur-medicale#30057
Catherine Lesage is interviewing Dr. Reliquet.
*) Iode et iodure de potassium – À contre-courant (Iodine and potassium iodide – Against the grain)
https://mirzoune-ciboulette.forumactif.org/t1978-iode-et-iodure-de-potassium-a-contre-courant#28898
Why the hype on thyrotoxicosis of inorganic iodide? Wollf-Chaikoff effect explained.
With sources and references in English.
NB: The Wolff-Chaikoff effect describes the immediate intrinsic reduction in thyroid hormone synthesis following a substantial iodine load due to deficient iodide organification. On another way expressed, the NIS symporter must first be accustomed to let iodine enter the cell. It has to be done progressively for 2 main reasons:
Let wake up asleep receptors (NIS symporters)
Delayed adaptation of the thyroid function (10-15 days).NB1: Take first 100 mcg selenium 3x/wk to protect overreaction of the thyroid when lacking Se.
NB2: If you’re under-thyroid, it could be that halogens occupy the place of iodine on the thyroid gland. Halogens = bromine (flour), chlorine (water), fluorine (toothpaste).
NB3: Don’t trust the common warning from the medical community, based on directives from pharmaceutical lobbying. Too long to explain in detail here. See links. -
@sphagnum said in Wart On Finger Destroyed; 3 New Warts Appear…:
I will see what would be suggested in the case of finger warts.
Yes, I don't know much about it. I had a foot wart removed via freezing in the past - it was there for months and began to hurt, but never returned. I had them on my fingers around the same time but those were never painful and eventually disappeared.
As some others are saying I think it may be nutritional deficiencies too. At that time I wasn't eating much red meat and was only returning to milk and dairy, so I suspect that played a role.
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@sphagnum said in Wart On Finger Destroyed; 3 New Warts Appear…:
selenium
This is why I said red meat: beef / ground beef / steak has high amounts of selenium. I read that oysters, fish, eggs, and dairy will also help meet selenium needs. That's the absolute core of bioenergetic eating! (eggs, dairy, beef, shellfish, etc.)
