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    Has anyone improved their health by peating

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      sunsunsun @user1
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      @user1
      idk it's probably cuz using someone's name is different than using a regular word like carnivore or bioenergetic

      that's why 'peaty' is somehow less offensive than 'ray peat diet'. peaty is more abstracted and doesn't conjure up the image of the man as much as using his given first name and last name

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        heyman @LucH
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        @LucH Thanks for the answer, next to impossible it seems to find raw milk here in sweden. Maybe I should get a cow or goat

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          Jennifer @heyman
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          @heyman, what @Gardner posted. Whichever milk you have available to you and you tolerate best is the best milk, IMO. In terms of flavor and digestibility, I haven’t found that there is a difference between unhomogenized and homogenized milk, just a difference in mouthfeel. However, due to its smaller fat globules, some people find homogenized milk to be more digestible, though, they are usually referring to milk that is naturally homogenized like goat’s milk and certain heritage breeds of cows such as the Dexter, Dutch Belted and Indian Zebu, but I think a lot of that has to do with the idea that what is natural is better, even if there really isn’t a difference between natural and mechanical homogenization.

          I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith

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            CrumblingCookie @heyman
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            @heyman said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:

            Maybe I should get a cow or goat

            Make double-sure it's paratuberculosis-free.
            You'll probably need to bear the costs for repeatedly testing the whole herd of the seller for this, tbh.
            And only use copper vats for both preparation and maturation if you're going to make yoghurt or skyr or cheese or whatever from it. Won't hurt to also use a copper can also already for collection of the raw milk.

            When it comes to pasteurized milk, skimmed milk is actually safer than whole milk wrt to the pathogen load as the fat droplets of whole milk also contain much of the cells.

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              ThinPicking @user1
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              @user1 said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:

              Hi, What is the difference between ray peat meme diet and ray peat diet, why doesnt the ray peat diet exist? Why do some other diet labels exist and are legitimate to exist but not the ray peat diet one?

              Indeed I could "recommend" that you supplement sugar and drink milk, only later to find you stumbling around on the internet complaining that the milk and glucose diet made you serotonergic. Or that adding bananas gave you a cold.

              Actually the period between me discovering Peat and joining rpf was also marked by some of the most insane things I've ever done in my dietary life. I now cherish the memories.

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                @ThinPicking said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:

                @user1 said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:

                Hi, What is the difference between ray peat meme diet and ray peat diet, why doesnt the ray peat diet exist? Why do some other diet labels exist and are legitimate to exist but not the ray peat diet one?

                Indeed I could "recommend" that you supplement sugar and drink milk, only later to find you stumbling around on the internet complaining that the milk and glucose diet made you serotonergic. Or that adding bananas gave you a cold.

                Actually the period between me discovering Peat and joining rpf was also marked by some of the most insane things I've ever done in my dietary life. I now cherish the memories.

                Hi, it is not clear, how does an individual or many people consuming relatively high quantity of certains foods that peat recommanded, and getting symptoms from it, make "ray peat diet" not exist as a whole, and make diets inspired by ray peat ideas unlegit to be labeled as "ray peat diet"? And why are other diets legit to be labeled, even if a part of the people trying it will eat it in quantity that cause them symptoms?

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                  @sunsunsun said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:

                  @user1
                  idk it's probably cuz using someone's name is different than using a regular word like carnivore or bioenergetic

                  It is. Yet "Ray peat diet"label is the most usefull and pratical label if the goal to ensure as much as possible that people looking for ray peat ideas actually stumble upon ray peats articles, books, and videos if they do a google search, and not some other stuffs that dont truly match Ray peat ideas

                  that's why 'peaty' is somehow less offensive than 'ray peat diet'. peaty is more abstracted and doesn't conjure up the image of the man as much as using his given first name and last name

                  A google search "peaty" doesnt yield the same result at all compare to "ray peat"

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                    ThinPicking @user1
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                    I didn't realise quite how wild the whole 'alt' health and 'diet' space was until the rpf schizm and at least a year on twitter.

                    @user1 said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:

                    And why are other diets legit to be labeled, even if a part of the people trying it will eat it in quantity that cause them symptoms?

                    *They're probably not. Or maybe it's temporary. Does the question need to be answered right at this moment. If there's an undiscovered or difficult to discuss extent of a 'diet' in context, there's room for science. Maybe bioenergetics will end up eating some of the space between these things. Ever so quietly and ever so peacefully.

                    @user1 said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:

                    It is. Yet "Ray peat diet"label is the most usefull and pratical label if the goal to ensure as much as possible that people looking for ray peat ideas actually stumble upon ray peats articles, books, and videos if they do a google search, and not some other stuffs that dont truly match Ray peat ideas

                    If the 'diet' includes those things and more, it's unlikely you can sit down and say this with a straight face before your subject moves on.

                    @user1 said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:

                    how does an individual or many people consuming relatively high quantity of certains foods that peat recommanded, and getting symptoms from it

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                      @ThinPicking said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:

                      I didn't realise quite how wild the whole 'alt' health and 'diet' space was until the rpf schizm and at least a year on twitter.

                      @user1 said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:

                      And why are other diets legit to be labeled, even if a part of the people trying it will eat it in quantity that cause them symptoms?

                      Probably not. Or maybe it's temporary. Does the question need to be answered right at this moment. If there's an undiscovered or difficult to discuss extent of a 'diet' in context, there's room for science. Maybe bioenergetics will end up eating some of the space between these things. Ever so quietly and ever so peacefully.

                      I dont understand what you are saying by "probably not" and most of what of come after it, can you clarity max, i said "why..." you answered probably not

                      @user1 said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:

                      It is. Yet "Ray peat diet"label is the most usefull and pratical label if the goal to ensure as much as possible that people looking for ray peat ideas actually stumble upon ray peats articles, books, and videos if they do a google search, and not some other stuffs that dont truly match Ray peat ideas

                      If the 'diet' includes those things and more, it's unlikely you can sit down and say this with a straight face before your subject moves on.

                      Include what things, can you clarity max

                      @user1 said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:

                      how does an individual or many people consuming relatively high quantity of certains foods that peat recommanded, and getting symptoms from it

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                        ThinPicking @user1
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                        So sorry @user1, *They're...

                        Did you have some fun reading and reading around a sample of people claiming to be on a 'low vitamin a diet'.

                        I like the ketogenic crowd in particular. I'm going to try it for longer and more seriously this year. Enter and exit a few times in attempt to induce the 'keto flu'. Listen to a lot of music and record a lot of meta.

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