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    • sunsunsunS
      sunsunsun @lykos
      last edited by sunsunsun

      if by peat diet you mean the neurotic weird stuff some people on here do or the twitter people are doing, then no, im not doing the peat diet

      I eat a normal diet including bread and pasta and convenience foods
      I just avoid pufa oils and skew more to low fat even though I don't do neurotic low fat diets except as experiments

      to be honest that now fat guy matt stone who did the "eat for heat" stuff before he went off the radar and got obese actually influenced me almost as much as peat's work, because matt's writings influenced me not to be neurotic about diet

      I used to restrict calories to stay lean and it just made me feel bad . there was a period of getting fatter at first when stopping that but it evened out after awhile of getting high calorie adapted.

      I changed a lot positively in physical health but also mentally, sometimes I interact with people and am amazed how offputting some of my behavior must have been which was similar to theirs, as them behaving in such a way is super off-putting to me.

      these people doing restrictive peat diets dont really get the high nutrient cycling and calorie intake needed to have robust health , you can see it in the things they post, they're not really "normal" (normal not normie), they have weird inclinations and weird ways of talking to/about people.

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      • lykosL
        lykos @sunsunsun
        last edited by lykos

        @sunsunsun said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:

        I eat a normal diet including bread and pasta and convenience foods
        I just avoid pufa oils and skew more to low fat even though I don't do neurotic low fat diets except as experiments

        Thats the normie healthy diet, nothing to do with peat about it. For peatard neuroticism check the video of danny roady of what i eat in a day.

        Best diet for your physiology is discovered by doing genetic test and the modifying your diet according to your lifestyle. Here is common knowledge that seedoils and processed foods are bad for you and should be avoided.When i see the average russian of middle to upper class they are healthy energetic and attractive.

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        • sunsunsunS
          sunsunsun @lykos
          last edited by sunsunsun

          @lykos haidut is not grifting for money, you must not know what he does to come to that conclusion. number

          1, ignoring the fact he pays for all the research studies himself, having a supplement company and selling desirable products is not a grift or a scam or anything like that. implying that having a business that makes money is grifting is insane, when the products he offers are in-demand and people buy them of their own accord.

          1. now not ignoring the fact he funds his own research studies, that makes the supplement business he runs even less chance of being a grift, because he is diverting some of his income to pursue research. on freakin' vitamins and un-patentable hormones. this latter point is even more proof that your assertion he is grifting is insane, because what grift is there in literally paying for research studies to publish in journals (which the researcher has to PAY to get their paper submitted in) for FREAKIN BIOTIN AND THIAMINE AND NIACINAMIDE. where is the grift here? You think the FDA is gonna grant haidut a monopoly on sales of b vitamins?

          get a grip nigga

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          • sunsunsunS
            sunsunsun @lykos
            last edited by sunsunsun

            @lykos you didn't even read my post because you told me to check out petard neuroticism when I specifically mentioned I am aware of this neuroticism already in my post. so it's not worth continuing a conversation with as you're not even listening

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            • lykosL
              lykos @sunsunsun
              last edited by lykos

              @sunsunsun Learn to read, i pointed out that your diet is normal diet meaning low neuroticism.

              @lykos haidut is not grifting for money, you must not know what he does to come to that conclusion. number

              Haidut found his niche in the peatsphere to sell his boner pills, most of his supplements are overpriced garbage, do i need to remind your of his vitamin k2 solvent oil.

              What was haiduts contribution to science or the world? he simply copy paste studies that affirm peat's theories and his rat cancer study is simply an experiment based on one of peat's theory about oxidative metabolism down to the same b vitamins recommended by Ray, he has not one original idea in his head and he's not a scientist just a peat sycophant who sells supplements

              Scroll in the old peatforum and search for haiduts post on how to regrow hair and stop hairloss, all the proof you need that he is a charlatan.

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              • engineerE
                engineer @lykos
                last edited by engineer

                @lykos said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:

                What was haiduts contribution to science or the world? he simply copy paste studies that affirm peat's theories and his rat cancer study is simply an experiment based on one of peat's theory about oxidative metabolism down to the same b vitamins recommended by Ray, he has not one original idea in his head and he's not a scientist just a peat sycophant who sells supplements

                I wouldn't know half the stuff I do if not for him. There is tons of value in being a good educator/communicator and he corroborates Peat's ideas with newer studies (ex: https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/pyrucet-liquid-ethyl-pyruvate-aceatoacetate-mix.27487/). Plus where else can you get his obscure compounds in quantities small enough to try once?

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                • lykosL
                  lykos @engineer
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                  @engineer sign up to a biology class, reading post on the internet without having a uniformed understanding of biology is asinine.

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                  • ThinPickingT
                    ThinPicking @lykos
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                    @lykos said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:

                    any restrictive diet will result in deficiencies long term

                    Bioenergetics isn't a diet and the only (temporary) deficiency here is your cognitive function.

                    if you understand physiology especially your own

                    Yes... that's part of the point.

                    Lykos, somewhere inside. You know why you're here.

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                    • lykosL
                      lykos @ThinPicking
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                      @ThinPicking said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:

                      Bioenergetics isn't a diet and the only (temporary) deficiency here is your cognitive function.

                      you will be crying in a few years on the lowtoxinforum about your "bio energetics" after you destroy your body subhuman.

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                      • lykosL
                        lykos @LucH
                        last edited by lykos

                        @LucH You are the only intelligent user on this forum, i agree.I would argue the first thing you should do before starting any diet is check your hormones minerals and bvitamins for any deficiencies and do a dna test for mutations, some one for example with mthfr would need specific diet curated to his individual needs instead of just eating foods to optimize carburation.

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                        • sunsunsunS
                          sunsunsun @lykos
                          last edited by sunsunsun

                          @lykos you are seething and possibly also malding

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                          • JenniferJ
                            Jennifer
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                            I regained my health, in part, by following Ray’s work and my mum saw a regression in her cancer by following the general diet that Ray told me in an email exchange he recommended, along with thyroid and progesterone supplementation. I’ve written in depth on the old RPF about our experiences and numerous diagnoses, most of which were nonsense, but to summarize:

                            I was an active hiker in my 20s and without explanation began losing weight rapidly until I was done to 30 kg and at 29, while lifting half a watermelon, I felt my spine collapse under me. Within seconds I had fractured 12 vertebrae, 8 of which compressed, due to undiagnosed thyroid disease that caused advanced osteoporosis, leaving me almost 4" shorter and unable to walk. With the severity of my injury, I was at risk of paralysis if I fractured again and specialists told me not to expect to get better, let alone climb mountains again. Craving quite a bit of dairy at the time, I averaged 4 liters worth of raw milk/homemade yogurt daily, and the rest of my diet consisted of raw cheese, eggs, gelatinous broth, honey, fruit, greens, and smaller amounts of shellfish and pastured beef. Within months I had gained back all the muscle that had atrophied, and within a year I had greatly increased my bone density, going from a DEXA score of -6.7 to -3.6 (for reference, osteoporosis begins at -3.5). During this time, I also learned how to walk again, however, I was still at risk of fracturing, still in a lot of pain, amenorrheic, intolerant to many foods and having gallbladder attacks (doctors wanted to remove it, but I refused). I found Ray’s work about a year later, pressed my doctor to order a thyroid panel and hydrogen breath test, was diagnosed with thyroid disease, SIBO and gastritis, began supplementing thyroid (standardized NDT), got my period back, eliminated the SIBO, healed my gallbladder and intestines, gained back 2 inches of height and my health, and proved the specialists wrong—I’m climbing mountains again.

                            As for my mum’s experience, she had a biopsy in July of 2020 and was diagnosed with uterine cancer so she upped her thyroid dose by a grain, high dosed Progest-E (a bottle a week) and followed a diet consisting of mainly milk, cheese, eggs, liverwurst, gelatinous meat, carrot salad, fruit juice and sweetened coffee. A week later, in preparation for her upcoming surgery, further testing was performed and revealed that the cancer was worse than the previous biopsy showed—it was in the surrounding walls too—and she was informed that she would likely need chemo and radiation. She continued with the diet, high dosing Progest-E, and despite doctors trying to scare her into dropping her dose, the extra grain of thyroid, and when the surgeons went to remove her uterus 6 weeks later, they were shocked to find her walls were clean—there was no trace of cancer to be found—and she didn’t need any further intervention.

                            I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith

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                            • lykosL
                              lykos @sunsunsun
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                              @sunsunsun no an argument retard

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                              • alfredoolivasA
                                alfredoolivas @lykos
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                                @lykos I haven't got ill in 4 years. That is the most notable effect on my health.

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                                • lykosL
                                  lykos @Jennifer
                                  last edited by lykos

                                  @Jennifer thank you for your detailed message, i hope more share how peat improved their life or not.

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                                  • BioEclecticB
                                    BioEclectic
                                    last edited by BioEclectic

                                    The broader Peatosphere of bioenergetics and orthomolecular nutrition has had a broad impact on my life and health for the better part of a decade. I'd have to go back to age 15 or 16 to identify when I've last felt like this.

                                    Seemingly limitless calm and focused energy, I can go all day and night. In my early 50's, 6ft, low body fat and strong.

                                    I've never enjoyed the foods I've eaten more so than now. Nutrient dense and proper food prep opens up your diet options immensely.

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                                    • R
                                      Raymoud al-Peet
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                                      Why is this clown even allowed to post here? None of his threads are constructive in any way, it's just straight up low effort trolling

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                                      • JenniferJ
                                        Jennifer @lykos
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                                        You’re welcome, @lykos. 🙂

                                        I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith

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                                        • JenniferJ
                                          Jennifer @BioEclectic
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                                          @BioEclectic said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:

                                          I've never enjoyed the foods I've eaten more so than now.

                                          Same here. 🙂

                                          I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith

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                                          • C
                                            Corngold @engineer
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                                            @engineer
                                            Didn't find Peat until I was 30. Turning 34 in three months. Tiredness was an issue since I started college; was trying different diets and routines though nothing was "working." Low blood sugar, cortisol, adrenaline, probably lower thyroid function were the big problems. The commenter who said sugar helps prevent crashes is right. Fruit as well as actual sugar in coffee with milk.

                                            Avoiding huge amounts of protein - which almost no young people do because we've all been told "protein builds muscle." And the myths about saturated fat and cholesterol. Beef, eggs and butter are your friend as long as you're avoiding fast food, pufa, and walking or doing some lifting. I used to avoid sugar. Many people are keto-brained and do this. Knock on wood, but many of these changes really helped me get energy, stop being achey and tired, fatigued, headaches, brain-fog, etc.

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