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      thebodyelectric_ @LetTheRedeemed
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      @LetTheRedeemed why is that funny? It's quite noticeable. I've seen people reverse age simply from a good environment and being around love and friends. It doesn't last but I've noticed it. Life delights in life. "Lol" is trite. If you have something of substance to contribute let's hear it. The effect from Tuinone is quite obvious. Have you tried it? It's all context, of course. The friends I have it to in particular are quite stressed. Maybe you have a different point of comparison.

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        LetTheRedeemed @thebodyelectric_
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        @thebodyelectric_ ah I thought you were joking hahah. Nah I believe you. I’m a fan of the stuff, so I looked high and low for any source, and even how to convince a chemical supplier to get it to me all for not. I’m super stoked about getting it. I definitely believe you — I believe in anecdotes way more than most

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          jamezb46 @thebodyelectric_
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          @thebodyelectric_ Why are you doubling down on your bullshit when you were called out?

          You originally wrote: "[I] watch them reverse age right in front of my face within minutes"

          We all know that that isn't possible. You didn't say that their temperament improved within minutes (even that is extremely unlikely to any noticeable degree that is attributable to the compound), you specifically said that their years melted away before your very eyes.

          Stop bullshitting people and then gaslighting them when you get called out.

          In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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            sunsunsun @thebodyelectric_
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            @thebodyelectric_ what dose do u give

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              dapose
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              I’ve been using two drops 8mg of thymoquinone of the current formulation right before bed on my tongue. Sleeping extra good. Don’t wake up at all until alarm clock except some recent thunderstorms. I replaced 4 drops of Kuinone on tongue before bed. I like the effects of Tuinone better. More calming.

              For black seed oil seems like if you had an extra strength oil 7.5% TQ you’d need about a teaspoon of the product and would be getting lots of Pufa and other things that aren’t thymoquinone

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                yerrag @wester130
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                @wester130 said:

                @jamezb46 i am going to try Black Seed Essential Oil

                is that an acceptable substitute

                Hands down this is much much better. Just coming in isolated without being in a form reeking of PUFA makes it very potent with all its anti-inflammatory and anti-microbial benefits. It is a quinone, but it is much more if I just consider it being possibly a solution to my recurring high blood pressure arising from my system having a deep reservoir of deeply rooted synergistic pathogens ranging from bacteria and cell-wall deficient forms to fungal forms. In killing these microbes, I also have to deal with endotoxins and its highly inflammatory as well as highly oxidative effects.

                I plan on using it as part of a stack which I have been using and my blood pressure has lowered but has reached a wall of resistance.

                Will likely use it as a suppository in an VCO carrier oil or an EVOO carrier oil, just to bypass the liver first pass.

                Because I don't see myself using 50mg of it each day as I would in taking a 1000mg capsule of 5% TQ (in Sabel's Ethiopian souced product), because that much is needed to compensate for the PUFA load in Sabel's product, I consider the price of $60 per bottle of 360 drops at 4mg TQ per drop being cost effective with a daily dose of 24mg, which amounts to 6 drops a day. This would make a bottle last for 60 days. I am assuming 24mg unPUFA'ed TQ would be as potent as 50mg PUFA'ed TQ in Sabel's capsule.

                Guys, I am doggedly in pursuit of my goal of lowering my bp to normal levels. It has only begun to bear encouraging results the past year. The end is near. Thanks to the conceptual framework of Ray, the superhuman scribe in AI, and the enabling availability of very useful substances courtesy of haidut.

                Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                  jamezb46 @yerrag
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                  @yerrag If you desperately need to lower BP why not use an ARB like Losartan

                  In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                    yerrag @jamezb46
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                    @jamezb46 said:

                    @yerrag If you desperately need to lower BP why not use an ARB like Losartan

                    It's very tempting to do that and call it a day but Losartan does nothing to address the main causes of high blood pressure. It only addresses the symptom which is high blood pressure. But the consequences of lowering blood pressure would be terrible in the long run.

                    For one, it goes against the wisdom of the body, which adapts to what is wrong in the body. In order for the body to survive in the short term. But it's doing thst at the expense of long term health.

                    The very root causes of low grade infection and inflammation remain, and the longer these condition stay unresolved, the more the body degenerates even as the infection morphs into more virulent forms, from bacterial to large fungal forms that make them more parasitic, which I believe becomes the starting point for cancer.

                    But even before cancer takes hold, simply lowering blood pressure overrides the body's wisdom in determining what blood pressure is needed to enable full perfusion of blood to its organs. If nutrient delivery is compromised, and waste retrieval from the organs is hindered, the vital organs will begin the process of dying slowly.

                    But our doctors can huff and puff, and say there is no proof to what I say. But it only takes common sense and logic to deduce cause and effect relationships.

                    Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                    engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                    wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                    the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                      evan.hinkle
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                      Not sure if anyone saw it, but on Hans’s substack he mentioned tuinone reducing gram negative bacteria, and fungus together on a stool test, (while simultaneously raising commensal bacteria. Seemed like an amazing claim, and I plan to trial the compound. Just to be clear, this is not Hans saying, “wow, I feel better,” rather this are actual results from a comprehensive stool test.

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                        yerrag @evan.hinkle
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                        @evan.hinkle said:

                        Not sure if anyone saw it, but on Hans’s substack he mentioned tuinone reducing gram negative bacteria, and fungus together on a stool test, (while simultaneously raising commensal bacteria. Seemed like an amazing claim, and I plan to trial the compound. Just to be clear, this is not Hans saying, “wow, I feel better,” rather this are actual results from a comprehensive stool test.

                        It would be interesting to find a substance that is antimicrobial that does not leave behind an endotoxin trail from microbes.

                        The substances I've used, from antibiotics to natural substances such as herbs and essential oils always leave behind an endotoxin trail that produces a Herxheimer effect of inflammation and oxidative stress.

                        If the microbes were just temporary in nature, it would be fine as the endotoxin effects would just be for a few days and would be gone in a few days.

                        But if the microbes come from a reservoir embedded inside biofilms in the lymphatic system or the vascular system (plaques), the infection is chronic and antimicrobial treatment would be continual, and while the treatment can be less stressful on our immune system as it relieves our body of expending energy on producing white blood cells to extinguish microbes using ROS to create oxidative stress (from spillover ROS) as well as subjecting us to inflammatory stresses from cytokines (e.g. IL6 etc); the endotoxin trail it leaves behind ( and the effect is not limited to gram negative bacteria as gram positive bacteria and fungi also leave behind in their wake similar effects as endotoxins do) is just as inflammatory and as oxidatively stressful.

                        I am hoping Tuinone with its thymoquinone can be different and not leave behind as significant and burdensome an endoxotin trail behind.

                        So I can use it continually to exhaust my internal structure of its deep well of microbes until such time that a tiny fraction of the pathogens remain such that they do not have a dominant effect on my body that they just simply become commensal and regulatory instead of pathogenic.

                        As I have come to realize that the stress from endotoxins (from killing pathogenic microbial colonies that form a low grade infectious state) is just as stressful as our own innate immune system killing these microbes.

                        The difficulty in lowering my blood pressure reflects the equilibrium of this tug of war that is continual and hard to resolve for good, which is why most of us raise the whitenflag to modern pharma medicine -

                        • to see blood pressure go down in the false flag of victory

                        Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                        engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                        wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                        the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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