Boiling greens

Milk Destroyer

How does this work? If you boil kale for a long time, do ALL the minerals and vitamins flow into the water, or do the solid leaves still retain a lot of nutrients? Does anyone here know?

alfredoolivas

@Milk-Destroyer A good amount will still be in the leaves. I would chop the greans up finely, blend them or mash them into a paste and put the paste and it's juice into the water.

hwisdom

@Milk-Destroyer ur first mistake is eating kale

BioEclectic

@alfredoolivas said in Boiling greens:

@Milk-Destroyer A good amount will still be in the leaves. I would chop the greans up finely, blend them or mash them into a paste and put the paste and it's juice into the water.

Great idea, chop/blend finely first before boiling.

As for boiling, i wouldn't do it for too long to preserve more of the heat sensitive vitamins. Then i would do a rapid cool down afterward.

Milk Destroyer

@hwisdom I always thought I would hate it, but it's actually a surprisingly nice compliment to a meaty dish.

hwisdom

@Milk-Destroyer yea its like smth w bitter greens in general stimulating digestion + bile flow as well as lymphatic drainage I think, goes well w anything that has fat, e.g arugula works well in (italian) pizza

alfredoolivas

@Milk-Destroyer If you want to eat the kale leaf, maybe microwave it and then drizle it in oil and oven it? I think thats the best way to preserve the nutrients.

hwisdom

@alfredoolivas microwave is ass, its a scam, turns polyphenols and the vitamins that gets broken down into cancerous compounds, dont listen to zog

alfredoolivas

@hwisdom doubt, show proof please

hwisdom

@alfredoolivas https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/debunking-the-myth-that-microwave-ovens-are-harmless/#gsc.tab=0 you can try reading this article

LucH

@alfredoolivas said in Boiling greens:

show proof please

Throw your microwave away!
A study in the Lancet of 1989
"Aminoacid Isomerisation and Microwave Exposure"
G. Lubec, Chr. Wolf, B. Bartosch.
Microwaving of formula has transformed some trans amino acids into synthetic cis isomers. Synthetic isomers, whether trans or cis, are not biologically active. In addition, one of the amino acids, L-proline, has been converted to the D-isomer, known to be neurotoxic and nephrotoxic (kidney-toxic). It is already worrying that many babies are not breastfed [or not long enough fed]; now they are given fake milk made even more toxic by the passage in the microwave oven.

Source:
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(99)04101-X/abstract

Interesting links
http://veganbio.typepad.com/veg_anbio/2009/06/fours-à-microondes-un-choix-entre-sante-et-facilite.html
=> 10 raisons pour vous débarrasser de votre four à micro-ondes.
=> 10 reasons to get rid of your microwave oven

http://www.alterinfo.net/L-URSS-avait-interdit-les-micro-ondes-pour-leur-effet-mortel_a7784.html
=> L'URSS avait interdit le four à micro-ondes en 1976.
=> The USSR had forbidden the microwave in 1976.

http://www.cancersalves.com/articles/Microwave.html
=> The Hidden Hazards of Microwave Cooking. NEXUS Magazine, 1995.
Procès contre un hôpital en Oklahoma relatif à une femme tuée par une transfusion sanguine qui était réchauffée, comme de coutume, au four micro-ondes.
=> Lawsuit against a hospital in Oklahoma because of a woman killed by a blood transfusion that was heated, and as usual, in the microwave.

[7] Song K and Milner J A. "The influence of heating on the anticancer properties of garlic," Journal of Nutrition 2001;131(3S):1054S-57S
=> 60 ' dans le four micro-ondes suffit pour tuer les enzymes de l'ail.
In a study of garlic, as little as 60 seconds of microwave heating was enough to inactivate its allinase, garlic's principle active ingredient against cancer.

BioEclectic

@alfredoolivas said in Boiling greens:

@hwisdom doubt, show proof please

My word isn't proof at all but i recall reading about microwaves and nutrients a long time ago.

Personally my microwave sees limited use, am now even questioning heating water in it now that i've learned about water's other potential properties, structuring etc etc.

Edit: Luc's and hwisdom's info are pretty eye opening as well.

alfredoolivas

@hwisdom @luch @bioeclectic thanks guys