@Butter-Girl
For me, yes. If I don't chew them to mush completely, they go back out still looking like a nut or part of a nut.

I wonder if someone has an interesting explanation for the cases of the unhealthy survivors. You have the seed oil drinkers, that will do fine with that, no problems what so ever. Although weird, maybe there are just some very toxin resistant people.

But what I find even weirder. People who had a tumor cut out, radiation and chemotherapy. Changed nothing about their lifestyle and live on for many years, maybe not great, but absolutely not bad quality of life either. These people already have the so said cancer metabolism, get nuked with toxins and stay alive.

I dont know. I really like the metabolic view of cancer. But that doesn't make sense to me.

@Master I'm afraid so. I have some weird health problems nobody really got an answer to, including and mainly myself. Symptoms seem to match hypothyroidism partly and b12 deficiency. But there is no real reaction to supplementing any of these. I keep searching tho.

@Mulloch94

Aha that is why! Thanks for the explanation. Your experience also seems interesting. Maybe I will give this a try & I'm not on a low carb diet at all, so that shouldn't be a problem.

@Mulloch94 I think I ones looked in to a calcium pyruvate supplement. But the people who wrote reviews where not to enthousiastic about it. This one is bound different ofcourse and the idea sounds promising.

What has been your personal experience with this? Does it reliably work? What does it do if it works?

@Mulloch94 I have tried cyproheptadin also now that you say it. That one is definitely effective, although I struggle sometimes with the after effects. Makes me semi depressed for 2-4 days. But is also a very effective sleeping aid in emergency situations. High dose will put me to sleep for >10 hours.

Pyrucet sounds interesting. Why do you like this supplement?

@annis I use my own methylene blue, coffee and aspirin. Is oxidal for some reason better? i guess it is easier already mixed up.

I did try some idealabs stuff, but although I really like the stories of Georgi and how he explains things. Instead of complete health wonders, most of the time I had no noticeable reaction. This is wat I tried:

• Tyronene (T3). No reaction. No temperature. Not anything

• Tyromix (T3/T4) nothing also.

• Lisuride. High blood pressure, headache. Nothing good, but nothing too bad either. 4/10

• Progesterone. Very good. Gives a nice relaxed feeling. Gets temperature up. Just feel good in low doses. High doses super sedating which can also be nice. 8/10

• Kuinone. Nothing.

• Cortinon (pregnenlone). High expectations, but also nothing.

• Mitolipin. Nothing much, except laxative effects. 2/10

• Adamantane. Quite stimulating, bit heavy on the stomach sometimes. Feels like amphetamine if it works, but works unreliable. 5/10

Just a normal ZMA, theanine or cistanche seem to have better and more noticeable effects.

So anyone got better results with idealabs supplements?

Smercola still selling fish oils and silicium dioxide. can't wait till he brings out some upgraded idealabs products.

Where can one find the studies Ray and others mentioned about the extreme hypometabolic state. Like people who wrecked their metabolism and only have 50% BMR or less?