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@gentlepotato I'm sorry, I don't have a lot of mental energy to research anything currently. Would you mind sharing with me some basics or a protocol that can help with the energy production that is blocked due to the Itaconate shunt? Are there some simple things that can help, or is it very complicated? I am about 2.5 months into glucose therapy (15 Tbsp doses), and I'm not doing well. I have tried countless complicated healing regimens over the years, and the simplicity of glucose speaks to me. Unfortunately, it's not working (yet). If you could point me in the right direction on this, I would appreciate it.

Can someone please fill me in on the thought process behind oral H2O2 therapy and a good resource(s) to learn more about it? I assume one of the benefits is to improve overall tissue oxygen levels within the body?

@S-Holmes I'm not sure about this. I haven't heard that it matters. Ozone is O3 (three oxygen atoms), so technically made "with oxygen."

@CrumblingCookie said in Glucose loading cures everything?:

@GlucoseOrBust said:

For what it's worth, Stephens talks about glucose, oxygen, and water being the three critical factors of energy metabolism.

I think this is an oversimplification, as studying things like Buyteyko breathing shows that air hunger is a subjective experience based on an individuals tolerance to CO2 build up in the lungs and blood.

! Thanks. Wow. It fits together. Now I feel the need to read up on Buyteyko breathing.
I've heard military special forces apply very specific breathing techniques in high-stress situations which probably limit the glucose-inhibiting aftermaths. Is that the Buteyko?

Buteyko is about reducing the volume of each breath in and out your nose. Over time, this resets you CO2 tolerance (level at which you experience air hunger) and allows you to breathe less air breathing less air allows more carbon dioxide to remain in the blood, which transports more oxygen from the blood into cells.

@S-Holmes The smell of ozone coming off of these suppositories is overwhelming. Not to be gross, but the little bit that you get on your fingers stays there for hours. The ozone is extremely strong. Also, (incoming grossness again), your BMs after using the ozone smell like ozone and have no typical BM foul smell to them whatsoever. The ozone concentration is plenty high, at least with regards to the highly unscientific smell test..... sorry

@S-Holmes Neither.

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For what it's worth, Stephens talks about glucose, oxygen, and water being the three critical factors of energy metabolism. I know it's not groundbreaking science, but maybe a good reminder as to how healing could be more simple if we look at the macro picture first. Anyway, he says that oxygen and water optimization are easier to diagnose as we get clearer signals from the body that we are deficient (air hunger and thirst to put it simply). I think this is an oversimplification, as studying things like Buyteyko breathing shows that air hunger is a subjective experience based on an individuals tolerance to CO2 build up in the lungs and blood. Buteyko helps to reset this air hunger set point to allow greater CO2 in the blood, which paradoxically allows MORE oxygen to be taken up by the cells. Also, it seems that chronic dehydration without a persistent thirst signal is also quite common, at least with regards to lab biomarkers indicating such.

Dr. Stephens is clearly onto something with dextrose in large-ish doses with regards to healing. I think he has seen countless miracles with it, but has put together a kind of patchwork theory on how it works after the fact. I think the danger in this is that there are still people with whom large doses of dextrose are not helping after many weeks, and the answer to why it isn't working probably isn't as simple as more dextrose or time is needed. For me, I've gone as high as 24 Tbsp in one dose and I've been on the protocol now for 7 weeks. I think I have explored a reasonable range regarding both dosage and time needed to at least see marginal benefits. I think it would be a safer for him to assume that there is a minority of people that will either respond slowly (or possibly not at all) to pure dextrose loading. Keeping it simple is good and I think the right path. Perhaps this is a bit too simple, however.

I think it's once people have explored high dosing and have given it a month or more that Stephens has lost most of his patients (the 15-20% or so he's mentioned that don't end up sticking to the program. Some people give up, because they are in a cycle of trying one thing after the other out of desperation. I've definitely been there, but not with this one I don't think. I think there has to be another factor that could be limiting this glucose uptake or glucose metabolism in the brain, especially for the most severe cases. Proper oxygenation seems like as good of a candidate as any. I like the idea of experimenting with ozone. I have done ozone suppositories in the past with little benefit, but I wonder if combining them with dextrose could be beneficial? This combined with low dose MB (I've taken the dosage down to 3mg x2 per day) could be helpful. Any thoughts?

@gentlepotato Amazing results! Very happy for you. Thanks for the reminders and tips on checking metabolic markers along the way

@S-Holmes I appreciate you. I hope you get through your trials and out the other end with all the lessons and none of the suffering.

I'm in pretty horrible shape. I am getting ready to reach out to Dr. Stephens, but I just saw your post. I am emotionally breaking down, and I don't know what to do. I don't really blame the glucose, as my life keeps getting more and more desperate with or without it. It's been six weeks, and I haven't really seen it make a positive difference in any of my symptoms. If anything, everything is slightly worse. I just don't have the strength to push through much longer. His results have been literally unbelievable, but I keep thinking that it can't work for everyone. That's where I am at currently. I hope to snap out of it and find some kind of stable footing.

@S-Holmes Beautiful report! Keep em coming.

@S-Holmes Bless you. I can identify with the adult failure to thrive as you mention (and Stephens does as well). I heap piles of shame on top of this, and I grieve of life lost to survival mode living.

It will be amazing to see amazing people like you fully restored to full potential. I don't like the word recovery, as I'm not sure what previous version of me I would even want to recover to. It sounds like you and others that have stumbled on this treatment would probably relate. I'm really inspired by your story. You deserve to be (and will be) fully healed. Thanks for your sharing.

@S-Holmes That's a out it. Desperation will only take me so far. Need some inspiration (symptom improvement in me or others) to keep this train rolling.
I mostly mix it in water with a bit of lime juice and add in some psyllium fiber often to help the stomach upset.

@S-Holmes It went pretty well. He has a way of addressing my skepticism each time we talk that doesn't leave me feeling gaslighted. He's always 100% confident that results are around the corner, which wouldn't be believable without my intuitive sense of his honesty and the incredible results from such diverse patient types. I could not sustain this process without talking with him.

I am up to 18-20 Tbsp 3-4x per day. It's a lot for me. Just thinking that I'm consuming 2 lbs of sugar each day is hard to stomach (literally). The nausea is still better, but the mental and psych symptoms are unchanged for me. If anything, I feel that my moods are swinging as much as ever. Onward I go though.

@gentlepotato I think it's a great question. I think he would answer that it's possible two things:

1. Your brain is not yet allowing all of the glucose in yet. This is what he said to me yesterday. It isn't yet convinced that there is enough coming after the current dose, so it doesn't utilize it all. I am paraphrasing what he said and it could be a little off, but I think that's the premise. Again, I am trying to get off of the why aspect, but this is a really good question.
2. Your stomach tolerance will limit the amount of glucose you can take until it adjusts. Theoretically, you could keep taking glucose until symptoms disappeared, and this would partially alleviate the first issue above. However, you would likely get nauseas and vomit, so that is why he recommends the more gentle acclimation period for most.

@ThinPicking I have had a lot of pretty serious concussions. I played high school football at a pretty high level. Offensive lineman, so my job was head to head contact on each play. I saw stars on a regular basis. I also was knocked unconscious while very drunk when I was 17. I had a rough middle school experience like many do. I took it really bad, and had a couple of specific instances that I have had a hard time working through even decades later. I don't know how much of this is actual "trauma" (physical or emotional) and how much is genetic/epigenitic ability to withstand it. My experiences may or may not have caused "glucose limitations" for another, but I think that is another factor at play.

@gentlepotato Your questions are valid. I may ask him for a better explanation of why it's high doses with lower frequency vs lower does with higher frequency. Honestly, I am in rough shape at this point in life. My ability to function is quite low in all aspects of my life. At this point, I am much more interest in how and what than in why. I understand that opens the door to naivety and desperate action, but I just don't have as much mental bandwidth available for the "why" piece at this point.

That being said, your questions and skepticism are valid. I'm not tracking BG, and don't plan to. Others he's treated have, and they all report BG levels normalizing within days of starting the treatment. Fluctuations become less and less.

The treatment lasts on average 6 months, after which time no supplemental dextrose is needed unless limitations occur in the future due to head injury or trauma, etc. Also, some take "maintenance doses" or as needed during periods of high stress, etc.

I don't understand how anyone could not be skeptical about this. He says he himself didn't believe what he was seeing for the first 500 patients or so. After he saw how everyone got better though, he could no longer ignore it.

I am far from the testimonial giving stage at this point. I am still skeptical, but I am skeptical about everything, and I know this can be a hinderance to growth also. I'm hoping others on here and RFP are willing to do the treatment as he outlines (dosing, frequency, etc.). It's not complicated, but it does take a bit of time (for most) to see results and obviously requires a bit of faith to get beyond oddity of it all.

@S-Holmes No weight gain thus far. I am taking a small dose of Tirzepatide (GLP-1), so I can't tell if I would have gain a bit otherwise. He does say that many gain a smallish amount of weight at the higher doses (10-15 pounds), but it typically comes off easily after treatment. Some lose weight or stay the same, so it just depends though.